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    Quote Originally Posted by Brummie_Hibs View Post
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    That's is a problem, because there can be scientific papers that can argue topics one way or another. It comes down the moderators own opinions on what they believe and will allow.

    As I said earlier, Science is the new Religion in that it cannot be questioned, as the great majority of us cannot prove otherwise - we don't have the education or 'respect' in the Scientific community. We just have to accept it as gospel and truth.

    Scientists that do question official lines, risk their reputations and careers. Who is willing to do that? It stifles scientific debate and restricts progress and truth (but probably keeps the powerful in power, makes the rich richer and keeps the corrupt out of jail)

    Galileo was tried and convicted for suggesting the earth moved around the sun!
    Science is questioned every day. That is its very purpose, to keep on questioning everything.


    Those discussions and arguments take place in journals and periodicals, not in short soundbites on ****ty social media sites.

    Any "official lines" on science are those areas which have been peer reviewed and practised to the extent that they are truths.

    Bert down the boozer saying the earth is flat cos he saw it on youtube isn't practising science. He's a misinformed arse.

    Galileo wasn't tried and convicted by scientists with opposing views. He was tried by misinformed cultists who just happened to have power at that time.

    Twitter used to be a laugh buy I never found it to be a place where much discussion/debate was ever happening. Now it's just packed with bots, wind-up merchants and people moaning about "woke" for whatever reason. As someone said above they quite like that randomness which can also be a laugh. I left it yonks ago, signed back on for a while then left again once Space Karen went full Goebbels.

    This site has only survived in the way it has because it is heavily moderated. If bluesky or any other twitter clone loses its grip on moderation it will go the same way as it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brummie_Hibs View Post
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    That's is a problem, because there can be scientific papers that can argue topics one way or another. It comes down the moderators own opinions on what they believe and will allow.

    As I said earlier, Science is the new Religion in that it cannot be questioned, as the great majority of us cannot prove otherwise - we don't have the education or 'respect' in the Scientific community. We just have to accept it as gospel and truth.

    Scientists that do question official lines, risk their reputations and careers. Who is willing to do that? It stifles scientific debate and restricts progress and truth (but probably keeps the powerful in power, makes the rich richer and keeps the corrupt out of jail)

    Galileo was tried and convicted for suggesting the earth moved around the sun!
    None of this makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babahibs View Post
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    None of this makes sense.
    Especially the science can't be questioned bit. My mate is a scientist and he says rational questions are the basis of all science.

    I quite like Threads. Left X last week so I'll be relying on here for the team line up. Bluesky is full of American stuff but it'll develop I suppose. Don't spend much time on any of them though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiber-nation View Post
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    Especially the science can't be questioned bit. My mate is a scientist and he says rational questions are the basis of all science.

    I quite like Threads. Left X last week so I'll be relying on here for the team line up. Bluesky is full of American stuff but it'll develop I suppose. Don't spend much time on any of them though.
    All the UK journos and political types are on there now. It’s growing pretty quickly now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiber-nation View Post
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    Especially the science can't be questioned bit. My mate is a scientist and he says rational questions are the basis of all science.

    I quite like Threads. Left X last week so I'll be relying on here for the team line up. Bluesky is full of American stuff but it'll develop I suppose. Don't spend much time on any of them though.
    Joined Bluesky last week but I can't take to the name. It just always comes out bloo-eskie in my head. It should have been two words, Blue Sky, if it wanted to be pronunciated blue sky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiber-nation View Post
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    Especially the science can't be questioned bit. My mate is a scientist and he says rational questions are the basis of all science.

    I quite like Threads. Left X last week so I'll be relying on here for the team line up. Bluesky is full of American stuff but it'll develop I suppose. Don't spend much time on any of them though.
    There is a good Scottish punk history account to follow on bluesky if that's your thing. And, as Ozy says, lots of good journalists there too.

    Even our very own Irvine Welsh is there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveF View Post
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    There is a good Scottish punk history account to follow on bluesky if that's your thing. And, as Ozy says, lots of good journalists there too.

    Even our very own Irvine Welsh is there.
    Cheers, haven't delved in too far apart from clicking the "see less of this" button to loads of cartoons and American sports.

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    Hibs social media



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    Trying to minimise the damage. Too late for me, I’ve moved over.

    Actually, that might be Threads?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brummie_Hibs View Post
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    Shut off free speech and you are living in Nazi Germany or Communist Russia. Khmer Rouge's Cambodia, Chairman Mao's China or Kier Starmer's Britain.
    The last bit is a joke right??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    Science is questioned every day. That is its very purpose, to keep on questioning everything.


    Those discussions and arguments take place in journals and periodicals, not in short soundbites on ****ty social media sites.

    Any "official lines" on science are those areas which have been peer reviewed and practised to the extent that they are truths.

    Bert down the boozer saying the earth is flat cos he saw it on youtube isn't practising science. He's a misinformed arse.

    Galileo wasn't tried and convicted by scientists with opposing views. He was tried by misinformed cultists who just happened to have power at that time.

    Twitter used to be a laugh buy I never found it to be a place where much discussion/debate was ever happening. Now it's just packed with bots, wind-up merchants and people moaning about "woke" for whatever reason. As someone said above they quite like that randomness which can also be a laugh. I left it yonks ago, signed back on for a while then left again once Space Karen went full Goebbels.

    This site has only survived in the way it has because it is heavily moderated. If bluesky or any other twitter clone loses its grip on moderation it will go the same way as it.

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    To me the spread of science denial is probably the most concerning byproduct of social media and the potential consequences are dire. The idea that a considerable amount of people think they know better than scientific researchers because they've educated themselves on Youtube is both comical and scary at the same time.

    To say science is the new religion is tragically funny because in doing so they are acting on the same instincts in human nature that drive many to religion in that they seek simple answers to things they don't understand and social media provides that in abundance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    To me the spread of science denial is probably the most concerning byproduct of social media and the potential consequences are dire. The idea that a considerable amount of people think they know better than scientific researchers because they've educated themselves on Youtube is both comical and scary at the same time.

    To say science is the new religion is tragically funny because in doing so they are acting on the same instincts in human nature that drive many to religion in that they seek simple answers to things they don't understand and social media provides that in abundance.
    Agree.
    I would argue that Conspiracies are the new religion, a faith based belief in something without proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brummie_Hibs View Post
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    That's is a problem, because there can be scientific papers that can argue topics one way or another. It comes down the moderators own opinions on what they believe and will allow.

    As I said earlier, Science is the new Religion in that it cannot be questioned, as the great majority of us cannot prove otherwise - we don't have the education or 'respect' in the Scientific community. We just have to accept it as gospel and truth.

    Scientists that do question official lines, risk their reputations and careers. Who is willing to do that? It stifles scientific debate and restricts progress and truth (but probably keeps the powerful in power, makes the rich richer and keeps the corrupt out of jail)

    Galileo was tried and convicted for suggesting the earth moved around the sun!
    How do we know they weren’t right to try and convict Galileo?


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    Leeds have switched.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    Science is questioned every day. That is its very purpose, to keep on questioning everything.


    Those discussions and arguments take place in journals and periodicals, not in short soundbites on ****ty social media sites.

    Any "official lines" on science are those areas which have been peer reviewed and practised to the extent that they are truths.

    Bert down the boozer saying the earth is flat cos he saw it on youtube isn't practising science. He's a misinformed arse.

    Galileo wasn't tried and convicted by scientists with opposing views. He was tried by misinformed cultists who just happened to have power at that time.

    Twitter used to be a laugh buy I never found it to be a place where much discussion/debate was ever happening. Now it's just packed with bots, wind-up merchants and people moaning about "woke" for whatever reason. As someone said above they quite like that randomness which can also be a laugh. I left it yonks ago, signed back on for a while then left again once Space Karen went full Goebbels.

    This site has only survived in the way it has because it is heavily moderated. If bluesky or any other twitter clone loses its grip on moderation it will go the same way as it.

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    Great response.

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