Dumbarton FC - Administration

[04Sauzee]

Reports this evening that Dumbarton will enter administration tomorrow. With that a 15 points deduction which will put them bottom of the league.

[Dashing Bob S]

The shopping centre is pretty amazing.

[SHODAN]

Another west of Scotland club in the shadow of the OF, not a surprise really.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Said weeks ago ICT would manage to survive the drop

[Pagan Hibernia]

That is sad. Our 1887 Cup Final opponents.

Hope they get themselves sorted out.

[Sylar]

Led to believe they won't be the last before the season is up either. A lot of League 1/2 sides seriously struggling financially just now. A couple of Championship ones too.

[matty_f]

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Led to believe they won't be the last before the season is up either. A lot of League 1/2 sides seriously struggling financially just now. A couple of Championship ones too.

Mental with trickle down economics and Celtic making more money than they ever have. It’s almost like that’s a myth.

[stuart-farquhar]

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Mental with trickle down economics and Celtic making more money than they ever have. It’s almost like that’s a myth.

Tri colour economics eh!

[El Gubbz]

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Mental with trickle down economics and Celtic making more money than they ever have. It’s almost like that’s a myth.

Yup, the solidarity payments don’t go far enough. SPFL could work out a way of “taxing” European earnings to allow for a much more fairer distribution of wealth across the Prem and lower leagues to improve competitiveness, raise the standard and support some of our oldest clubs during difficult economic times.

I’m absolutely certain a socialist club like Celtic would support such a notion.

[El Gubbz]

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Yup, the solidarity payments don’t go far enough. SPFL could work out a way of “taxing” European earnings to allow for a much more fairer distribution of wealth across the Prem and lower leagues to improve competitiveness, raise the standard and support some of our oldest clubs during difficult economic times.

I’m absolutely certain a socialist club like Celtic would support such a notion.

The Dutch implemented a fairer model in 2018 (https://eredivisie.eu/news/eredivisie-first-league-to-redistribute-revenues-from-uefa-club-competitions/). Unsure what the situation is today.

Looks like one perk for the clubs participating in Europe is that all clubs in the Eredivisie are obliged to cooperate in requests for matches to be moved in the interest of achieving an optimal match schedule for clubs playing in a UEFA club competition. Our ugly sisters are always making noises about how unfair it is - maybe this could be the way to benefit all clubs.

[Donegal Hibby]

It’s a sad state the way football is going when the bigger clubs are growing bigger every way possible and greedier too while others are struggling…

personally I think especially in Scotland we need clubs like these though I just don’t see any hope for them surviving in the future . Really think it’s quite sad and worrying where it will all end 😢

[Haymaker]

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Tri colour economics eh!

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[Haymaker]

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Led to believe they won't be the last before the season is up either. A lot of League 1/2 sides seriously struggling financially just now. A couple of Championship ones too.

We really need a complete overhaul of scottish football, economical, developmental the lot

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[Hibby70]

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Reports this evening that Dumbarton will enter administration tomorrow. With that a 15 points deduction which will put them bottom of the league.

Rock bottom

[PHeffernan]

Dumbarton have very disinterested and dodgy owners so this is no surprise.

[sambajustice]

We need less teams in the Scottish leagues. At least at a national level

[greenlex]

Budge will surely be to the rescue.

[PHeffernan]

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We need less teams in the Scottish leagues. At least at a national level

Do we? What would be gained by it?

At the moment we effectively have 2 leagues of full time clubs and 2 leagues of part time clubs.
The supporters of the part time clubs love their clubs as much as we love ours and have their own dreams.
Why would you want to mess with that?

[Donegal Hibby]

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We need less teams in the Scottish leagues. At least at a national level

I see it differently in we need these clubs as they are important … how many players have dropped down from bigger clubs only to build themselves a career …

Players like Kevin Nisbet who I think started with us went to Partick thistle and then out on loan to another lower league team only to become a very good player … Shankland drop down too maybe? ….

My opinion is losing clubs in Scotland only weakens the potential to develop players for the good of the league and Scotland .

[Waxy]

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We need less teams in the Scottish leagues. At least at a national level

No we dont.
We would just lose people to other sports.
We need clubs to live properly within their means alongside a fairer system.
You’ll see alot more people walking down Dumbarton high st in Old firm tops rather than Dumbarton tops.
It’s a shame what happened to Scottish football it could have been so much better.

[Hibernian Verse]

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No we dont.
We would just lose people to other sports.
We need clubs to live properly within their means alongside a fairer system.
You’ll see alot more people walking down Dumbarton high st in Old firm tops rather than Dumbarton tops.
It’s a shame what happened to Scottish football it could have been so much better.

This is only going to get worse, especially if Celtic can sustain any relative European success.

[Tom Hart RIP]

One of my favourite games was at Boghead 40-years ago when we were competing with Dumbarton to stay up.
Took a massive crowd through and beat them 2-0.
Willie Irvine and Brian Rice if memory serves.
I remember the song "You're goin' doon, you're going doon, We're no."
GGTTH

[Waxy]

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One of my favourite games was at Boghead 40-years ago when we were competing with Dumbarton to stay up.
Took a massive crowd through and beat them 2-0.
Willie Irvine and Brian Rice if memory serves.
I remember the song "You're goin' doon, you're going doon, We're no."
GGTTH

I was at this also it was a must win.
I somehow remember Gordon Durie scoring in a 2-2 draw too must have been a bit later.

[Green forever]

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One of my favourite games was at Boghead 40-years ago when we were competing with Dumbarton to stay up.
Took a massive crowd through and beat them 2-0.
Willie Irvine and Brian Rice if memory serves.
I remember the song "You're goin' doon, you're going doon, We're no."
GGTTH

My one and only visit to Boghead , Hibs ran free buses from Easter Road as it was such an important game.

[Centre Hawf]

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I see it differently in we need these clubs as they are important … how many players have dropped down from bigger clubs only to build themselves a career …

Players like Kevin Nisbet who I think started with us went to Partick thistle and then out on loan to another lower league team only to become a very good player … Shankland drop down too maybe? ….

My opinion is losing clubs in Scotland only weakens the potential to develop players for the good of the league and Scotland .

There's no real answer to it but I've always felt Scotland has a mix of too many teams and too many supporting the old firm which leaves too many clubs spread thin on reliable income. One bad season and it's armageddon. Even outside the SPFL there's a whole host of Lowland League and Juniors.

The make up of the countrys population now can't sustain clubs that were once able to thrive due to a much stronger workforce in the area. It won't get better for teams like Dumbarton, Greenock Morton, QOTS, or Alloa to name just a few.

[Scorrie]

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One of my favourite games was at Boghead 40-years ago when we were competing with Dumbarton to stay up.
Took a massive crowd through and beat them 2-0.
Willie Irvine and Brian Rice if memory serves.
I remember the song "You're goin' doon, you're going doon, We're no."
GGTTH

I too was at this game, some atmosphere. I think the club ran free buses through?

[Scorrie]

Dumbarton triggered one of my favourite Scottish football headlines - “Cruyff for Boghead” when they were rumoured to be signing the great man!

[Viva_Palmeiras]

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Mental with trickle down economics and Celtic making more money than they ever have. It’s almost like that’s a myth.

it’s the logical progression and consequence of taking TV money and enticing clubs away from being sustainable. The rich get richer and potentially same / more money to spread amongst fewer teams.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

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Dumbarton triggered one of my favourite Scottish football headlines - “Cruyff for Boghead” when they were rumoured to be signing the great man!

Murdo Murdo,
Murdo Murdo!

[J-C]

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There's no real answer to it but I've always felt Scotland has a mix of too many teams and too many supporting the old firm which leaves too many clubs spread thin on reliable income. One bad season and it's armageddon. Even outside the SPFL there's a whole host of Lowland League and Juniors.

The make up of the countrys population now can't sustain clubs that were once able to thrive due to a much stronger workforce in the area. It won't get better for teams like Dumbarton, Greenock Morton, QOTS, or Alloa to name just a few.

I agree, even back in the day many of these clubs had small crowds and relied on visits from the bigger clubs. I think especially in the west loads of younger fans are leaning towards the OF even more so now.