Housing

[superfurryhibby]

As part of my awakening to the realisation that all mainstream political parties lack the will to make the changes our citizens need to access fair rental accommodation, I've been drawn towards community activist groups. Living Rent are doing fantastic work in our communities, across a whole range of issues. I really welcome the support they are providing to people in their struggles with exploitative landlords.

"Leith Members Stuart and Rory and Violette and Fatima from Fountainbridge, just won a total £5300 of rent rebates in negotiation with DJ Alexander!

Stuart and Rory had gone without heating for a year, and Violette, Fatima and their flatmates had broken drafty windows, mould and painted-over lights with no action for months and wanted compensation for the time their homes wasn't suitable to live in.

After low offers from their landlords they went to action a couple weeks ago to demand a meeting with executives. Two very successful negotiations later they agreed to £2.5k and £2.8k for the Leith and Fountainbridge cases respectively. This came on top of repairs to the property from DJ Alexander, such as new windows which improves the quality of our homes long term.

If you are having repair issues in your home with you letting agent, housing association or the council, come along to one of our meetings".

https://www.livingrent.org/?fbclid=I...R828YiMrmQbo1S

[AgentDaleCooper]

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As part of my awakening to the realisation that all mainstream political parties lack the will to make the changes our citizens need to access fair rental accommodation, I've been drawn towards community activist groups. Living Rent are doing fantastic work in our communities, across a whole range of issues. I really welcome the support they are providing to people in their struggles with exploitative landlords.

"Leith Members Stuart and Rory and Violette and Fatima from Fountainbridge, just won a total £5300 of rent rebates in negotiation with DJ Alexander!

Stuart and Rory had gone without heating for a year, and Violette, Fatima and their flatmates had broken drafty windows, mould and painted-over lights with no action for months and wanted compensation for the time their homes wasn't suitable to live in.

After low offers from their landlords they went to action a couple weeks ago to demand a meeting with executives. Two very successful negotiations later they agreed to £2.5k and £2.8k for the Leith and Fountainbridge cases respectively. This came on top of repairs to the property from DJ Alexander, such as new windows which improves the quality of our homes long term.

If you are having repair issues in your home with you letting agent, housing association or the council, come along to one of our meetings".

https://www.livingrent.org/?fbclid=I...R828YiMrmQbo1S

really fantastic organisation IMO

have to say though, those landlords have gotten off lightly. is there something like a license that can be removed when stuff like this happens? if not, could it be workable?

[Just Alf]

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really fantastic organisation IMO

have to say though, those landlords have gotten off lightly. is there something like a license that can be removed when stuff like this happens? if not, could it be workable?

Yup, there is a Landlord license and an additional one for HMO (multiple occupancy) flats.

The landlord register is publicly accessible online although some landlords put their letting agency details in rather than their own.

[Ozyhibby]

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Yup, there is a Landlord license and an additional one for HMO (multiple occupancy) flats.

The landlord register is publicly accessible online although some landlords put their letting agency details in rather than their own.

As far as I know, you are not allowed to put letting agent down on register?
Honestly, the worst landlords tend to be in the public/social housing sector. You do get some bad landlords in private sector but most are decent.
Usually the poorest in private sector are amateur landlords who don’t realise the level of maintenance required and how often it needs carried out. They don’t mean to be bad landlords but the result is the same.
Councils and housing association have no such excuse.


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[marinello59]

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As far as I know, you are not allowed to put letting agent down on register?
Honestly, the worst landlords tend to be in the public/social housing sector. You do get some bad landlords in private sector but most are decent.
Usually the poorest in private sector are amateur landlords who don’t realise the level of maintenance required and how often it needs carried out. They don’t mean to be bad landlords but the result is the same.
Councils and housing association have no such excuse.


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Private landlords are mostly decent and the ones that aren’t don’t mean to be bad?. You make capitalism sound almost charitable. Are you a private landlord by any chance?

Our councils provide housing at a much lower rent then the private sector. They do a pretty decent job considering the constraints they work under including the effects of the underfunded council tax freeze.

[Colr]

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Private landlords are mostly decent and the ones that aren’t don’t mean to be bad?. You make capitalism sound almost charitable. Are you a private landlord by any chance?

Our councils provide housing at a much lower rent then the private sector. They do a pretty decent job considering the constraints they work under including the effects of the underfunded council tax freeze.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w3...n=share-mobile

[marinello59]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w3...n=share-mobile

Thanks for that, interesting stuff which shows how effective a properly funded public housing sector can be. Secure long term tenancies which can be inherited by family members with reasonable rents in high quality housing as good housing is seen as a right. The fact that 80% of city apartments are publicly owned and that 80% of the population qualifies for subsidised housing jumped out, that enables people to remain in those areas rather than being pushed out by those exploiting the system for private gain. If only one of the major parties was bold enough to take those ideas on.

[Ozyhibby]

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Thanks for that, interesting stuff which shows how effective a properly funded public housing sector can be. Secure long term tenancies which can be inherited by family members with reasonable rents in high quality housing as good housing is seen as a right. The fact that 80% of city apartments are publicly owned and that 80% of the population qualifies for subsidised housing jumped out, that enables people to remain in those areas rather than being pushed out by those exploiting the system for private gain. If only one of the major parties was bold enough to take those ideas on.

It’s possible if the subsidy comes from the rents generated. If you want it to come from general taxation then there is no chance. Although the housing benefit bill already subsidises a lot of housing.
Public housing needs to massively increased in this country, no doubt about it. The only way to do it will be by borrowing and that will only be achieved by leveraging the rents received.
The subsidy bit can come later, right now they just need to start building.


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[lapsedhibee]

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As far as I know, you are not allowed to put letting agent down on register?
Honestly, the worst landlords tend to be in the public/social housing sector. You do get some bad landlords in private sector but most are decent.
Usually the poorest in private sector are amateur landlords who don’t realise the level of maintenance required and how often it needs carried out. They don’t mean to be bad landlords but the result is the same.
Councils and housing association have no such excuse.

You sound like Maureen Urquhart's brief, trying to keep her fine down!

[Colr]

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Thanks for that, interesting stuff which shows how effective a properly funded public housing sector can be. Secure long term tenancies which can be inherited by family members with reasonable rents in high quality housing as good housing is seen as a right. The fact that 80% of city apartments are publicly owned and that 80% of the population qualifies for subsidised housing jumped out, that enables people to remain in those areas rather than being pushed out by those exploiting the system for private gain. If only one of the major parties was bold enough to take those ideas on.

Quite a bit of talk in Labour about intermediate rent as well as social rent to increase supply and pull the overall market back. Trouble is in London, the temporary accommodation budgets are massive so social needs to be prioritised. Could work, though, if they ramp up supply on public land. They’ll have to borrow and prsuade the Treasury its spend to save (which it is).

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/...team=editorial

Another scheme that will push prices higher still. These people are mad.
How about building more homes?


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[Allant1981]

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https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...g-much-sooner/


Another Springfield village of 3000 homes near Stirling. IMHO Springfield are a good developer as they provide the infrastructure for shops, offices and small businesses within their departments.

We are actually on the mailing list for this site, their other developments look good

[Stairway 2 7]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/...team=editorial

Another scheme that will push prices higher still. These people are mad.
How about building more homes?


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Saw this on x 😆
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[Ozyhibby]

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Saw this on x
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[Ozyhibby]

Rishi just said he’d bring back Help To Buy.


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[Moulin Yarns]

20 new affordable houses to be built on existing sites in the middle of pitlochry. Moving leisure and library facilities to an enlarged school campus. Passed at council today.

Small number in the large scheme of things but a large number for a town the size of pitlochry.

[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/timesradio/status/1803...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

Good interview about housing and planning in the UK.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://news.stv.tv/east-central/jud...lanning-battle

Planning stopping more housing.


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[Stairway 2 7]

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https://news.stv.tv/east-central/jud...lanning-battle

Planning stopping more housing.


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11 year planning battle 😆. This country is tremendous, Andy and Judy should take it to another European country, all of them would take it and their planning isn't decided by wee old local council groups

[Ozyhibby]

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11 year planning battle . This country is tremendous, Andy and Judy should take it to another European country, all of them would take it and their planning isn't decided by wee old local council groups

It’s almost like we enjoy being poor.


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[Moulin Yarns]

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11 year planning battle 😆. This country is tremendous, Andy and Judy should take it to another European country, all of them would take it and their planning isn't decided by wee old local council groups

Always going to lose when it's on prime agricultural land in the greenbelt. They should have built it in the garden of Cromlix House.

[superfurryhibby]

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Always going to lose when it's on prime agricultural land in the greenbelt. They should have built it in the garden of Cromlix House.

This is lost on the proponents of right wing influenced babble on planning and consent.

Of course, it wasn't just a proposal to build some tennis courts;

"A four-star hotel, multi-user sports pitch, museum, visitor centre and 19 houses were also planned.

[Moulin Yarns]

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This is lost on the proponents of right wing influenced babble on planning and consent.

Of course, it wasn't just a proposal to build some tennis courts;

"A four-star hotel, multi-user sports pitch, museum, visitor centre and 19 houses were also planned.

On prime agricultural land in the greenbelt. That's why it failed to get approval.

[superfurryhibby]

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On prime agricultural land in the greenbelt. That's why it failed to get approval.

On closer inspection, it did get approval.

"However, Scottish ministers overruled the decision, external, saying the benefits of the £37.5m plan would "outweigh" the loss of greenbelt land.

Approval is subject to 22 conditions set out by the government.

The development, which is backed by Judy Murray, includes luxury housing, 12 tennis courts, a golf academy, hotel and visitor centre.

Ministers approved the plan despite a Scottish government-appointed reporter recommending that the appeal be refused., external

However, they rejected the developer's claim for an award of expenses against Stirling Council, saying they agreed with the reporter's finding that the authority had not acted in an "unreasonable manner".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...ntral-59742106

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The development was also dependent on the building of luxury housing on the Park of Keir site, which was particularly unpopular with campaigners. Ultimately, a lack of investment in the project led to Judy Murray and her Murray Play Foundation deciding that it could not go ahead without public funding to cover the increased construction costs of the £20m facility.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...d=BingNewsSerp

[Ozyhibby]

We’re world class at finding reasons not to build. There is barely a single crane in Edinburgh’s skyline just now.


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[Stairway 2 7]

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This is lost on the proponents of right wing influenced babble on planning and consent.

Of course, it wasn't just a proposal to build some tennis courts;

"A four-star hotel, multi-user sports pitch, museum, visitor centre and 19 houses were also planned.

It's the right wing the tories and older people that are generally more swayed to Nimbyism. The younger sections of the greens and labour want houses. Old people who have nice big houses saying we shouldn't build houses to the youth who have no homes is as abhorrent as you can get. 42% of under 35s now live with their parents. Anyone happy in their own home telling those living with parents that we don't need more homes built have a brass neck

When Germany said it wanted to stop the tax breaks on farming and cut nitrogen use, as farms are such big polluters, it was the far right that protested. The oxygen conservation estimates we need to convert 22% of our current farmland to nature if we want net zero.
https://www.oxygenconservation.com/news-events/the-unsettling-truth-about-uk-land-use/#:~:text=Creating%20Space%20for%20Conservation,woo dland%20creation%20and%20peatland%20restoration.

[superfurryhibby]

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It's the right wing the tories and older people that are generally more swayed to Nimbyism. The younger sections of the greens and labour want houses. Old people who have nice big houses saying we shouldn't build houses to the youth who have no homes is as abhorrent as you can get. 42% of under 35s now live with their parents. Anyone happy in their own home telling those living with parents that we don't need more homes built have a brass neck

When Germany said it wanted to stop the tax breaks on farming and cut nitrogen use, as farms are such big polluters, it was the far right that protested. The oxygen conservation estimates we need to convert 22% of our current farmland to nature if we want net zero.
https://www.oxygenconservation.com/n...%20restoration.

House prices are way disproportionate to wages. There are plenty houses, it's just that young people can't afford them.

Anyway, back to the Murray story. Permission was actually granted for the development, they wanted the public purse to part fund their hotel, luxury housing , tennis and golf development and pulled out due to rising costs etc.

[Moulin Yarns]

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It's the right wing the tories and older people that are generally more swayed to Nimbyism. The younger sections of the greens and labour want houses. Old people who have nice big houses saying we shouldn't build houses to the youth who have no homes is as abhorrent as you can get. 42% of under 35s now live with their parents. Anyone happy in their own home telling those living with parents that we don't need more homes built have a brass neck

When Germany said it wanted to stop the tax breaks on farming and cut nitrogen use, as farms are such big polluters, it was the far right that protested. The oxygen conservation estimates we need to convert 22% of our current farmland to nature if we want net zero.
https://www.oxygenconservation.com/news-events/the-unsettling-truth-about-uk-land-use/#:~:text=Creating%20Space%20for%20Conservation,woo dland%20creation%20and%20peatland%20restoration.

Do you think that the luxury homes at the Murray tennis club would be affordable to young people??

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House prices are way disproportionate to wages. There are plenty houses, it's just that young people can't afford them.

Anyway, back to the Murray story. Permission was actually granted for the development, they wanted the public purse to part fund their hotel, luxury housing , tennis and golf development and pulled out due to rising costs etc.

We have the the lowest vacanct houses of every oecd nation 2% free. Germany and France have 8% vacant.
https://www.oecd.org/els/family/HM1-1-Housing-stock-and-construction.pdf

We would need to build 3 million homes just to have the same % of spare homes as Germany. Some cities like London 0.7% and Manchester 0.5% are worse. Paris is having a building push as the number of spare homes has dropped to 6% and they want it back up to 8% to lower prices

We do not have enough homes, that could not be more wrong

[Stairway 2 7]

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Do you think that the luxury homes at the Murray tennis club would be affordable to young people??

No it's only 16 homes. The hotel would bring jobs to a rural area and the tennis centre would help the community and the youth of Scotland. Andy had to move to Spain as we had no facilities.