Driving Pet Peeves

[silverhibee]

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POT HOLES!!!!!

If you have time, please contact local MP and try to get pressure on them to push for urgent repairs.

The one at St John’s road on inside lane is a car breaker, right outside the Italian restaurant heading out of town, and it has been like that for a few weeks now and hole just gets bigger and deeper.

[overdrive]

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The one at St John’s road on inside lane is a car breaker, right outside the Italian restaurant heading out of town, and it has been like that for a few weeks now and hole just gets bigger and deeper.

There's some crackers on Albion Road and Albion Place. It is a H&S issue with pedestrians walking on the road on match days. I tripped on one in Jan/Feb and my foot and ankle haven't been right since.

[Donegal Hibby]

Folk who decide that they don't need to use their indicators anymore 😡

[Hibrandenburg]

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Folk who decide that they don't need to use their indicators anymore 😡

I've owned a Mercedes for 2 years and I can't find the bloody things.

[Jones28]

Got tram down to Leith walk on Saturday pre match and the bloody cycle lanes are a menace. All the bikes I saw were e-bikes, non of them used a bell and trying to negotiate 2 kids vs pedestrians and those bikes was a bit of a nightmare.

I want cyclists to be safe of course, but it was a close run thing and not just with us but other pedestrians too.

Probably just not used to it but still, those e-bikes go so quickly.

[Pretty Boy]

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Got tram down to Leith walk on Saturday pre match and the bloody cycle lanes are a menace. All the bikes I saw were e-bikes, non of them used a bell and trying to negotiate 2 kids vs pedestrians and those bikes was a bit of a nightmare.

I want cyclists to be safe of course, but it was a close run thing and not just with us but other pedestrians too.

Probably just not used to it but still, those e-bikes go so quickly.

The design is a total joke. It was named the worst cycle lane in the world for a reason.

I don't cycle that way often but when I do I use the road. The cycle lanes are just too risky and I don't want to be responsible for careering into a bairn or elderly person. The surface of the cycle lanes is shocking as well, I'm surprised more cyclists haven't come off their bikes, the stretch up by Elm Row in particular is like riding on a mountain path.

Sadly the council have their fingers in their ears about it. It will probably take a serious incident for anything to be done.

[Donegal Hibby]

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I've owned a Mercedes for 2 years and I can't find the bloody things.

That's a wee bit different than the driver's over here though that know where they are and don't use them , even met one yesterday that indicated left but decided to go right!

[Scouse Hibee]

When the obstruction is on your side of the road you wait and give way, you don’t drive head on into oncoming traffic causing them to brake/swerve to avoid you 😡

[patch1875]

Been taking my daughter out for driving lessons the amount off inconsiderate bell ends is unbelievable.

Guy on the horn behind her at a busy roundabout because she was a bit slow in joining on also a woman doing the same when she stalled at traffic lights decided to get out the car and give her a mouthful.

[Jones28]

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Been taking my daughter out for driving lessons the amount off inconsiderate bell ends is unbelievable.

Guy on the horn behind her at a busy roundabout because she was a bit slow in joining on also a woman doing the same when she stalled at traffic lights decided to get out the car and give her a mouthful.

Thats outrageous behaviour.

I mind as a learner getting stuck in a pothole at a set of lights and just couldn't for the life of me get the car out. Maybe 2 rounds of lights passed before I could move it.

Apologies to anyone stuck behind me

[LaMotta]

The Cyclist yesterday, who despite having had a multi million pound bespoke cycle lane built for him, (causing significant disruption to local businesses, residents and commuters over a 2 year period) would rather pretend it is not there and cycle on the main road from Haymarket through until Roseburn, slowing down traffic and then weaving in and out of cars putting themselves and others at risk.

[The Tubs]

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The Cyclist yesterday, who despite having had a multi million pound bespoke cycle lane built for him, (causing significant disruption to local businesses, residents and commuters over a 2 year period) would rather pretend it is not there and cycle on the main road from Haymarket through until Roseburn, slowing down traffic and then weaving in and out of cars putting themselves and others at risk.

Is that cycle lane any good? I'm only ever a pedestrian when I'm in Edinburgh nowadays and the one on Leith Walk looks like it was purposely made to cause accidents with pedestrians. If I were to cycle there, I'd use the road.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Is that cycle lane any good? I'm only ever a pedestrian when I'm in Edinburgh nowadays and the one on Leith Walk looks like it was purposely made to cause accidents with pedestrians. If I were to cycle there, I'd use the road.

I think it was Pretty Boy who posted about the Leith Walk one earlier, about how bad it is.

It's a discussion that's been had before on here, about how poor many of the cycle lanes are. In many cases, the road is the safer option.

[speedy_gonzales]

The Roseburn-Haymarket cycle lane isn't that great if heading out of town.
You take your life in your hands crossing from the road to the path then at Roseburn you have to get back on to the opposite carriageway again.
Personally, if I was in a hurry, I'd stick to the road and make better progress.
I've also noticed that the bike lane is also used by skate boarders, scooters, electric mobility chairs and also joggers with pushchairs, which is great if it's segregating these folk from cars and pedestrians.
One issue I do have however is how the cycle lane crosses the side roads like Coates Gardens. Cyclists and pedestrians have priority crossing but for vehicles joining Haymarket Terrace this either isn't clear or the motorists don't give a damn. Often see vehicles bully there way through people or block the cycle lane.

[CropleyWasGod]

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The Roseburn-Haymarket cycle lane isn't that great if heading out of town.
You take your life in your hands crossing from the road to the path then at Roseburn you have to get back on to the opposite carriageway again.
Personally, if I was in a hurry, I'd stick to the road and make better progress.
I've also noticed that the bike lane is also used by skate boarders, scooters, electric mobility chairs and also joggers with pushchairs, which is great if it's segregating these folk from cars and pedestrians.
One issue I do have however is how the cycle lane crosses the side roads like Coates Gardens. Cyclists and pedestrians have priority crossing but for vehicles joining Haymarket Terrace this either isn't clear or the motorists don't give a damn. Often see vehicles bully there way through people or block the cycle lane.

There's a safer way out of town, depending where you're heading.

Before the new lane, which I haven't tried, I would turn left after the station, down the hill into the Balbirnie (?) development, where you can pick up the Roseburn Path.

[speedy_gonzales]

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There's a safer way out of town, depending where you're heading.

Before the new lane, which I haven't tried, I would turn left after the station, down the hill into the Balbirnie (?) development, where you can pick up the Roseburn Path.

Yeah, familiar with that way but it kinda defeats the point of having an east/west cycleway if it's only predominantly being used in the easterly direction.
I'm well aware there were a lot of vocal opponents to this design and it pushed back the development years. One of the louder voices was clamouring for the path to follow the old Haymarket yards and link up with the NEPN.

[Thief]

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One issue I do have however is how the cycle lane crosses the side roads like Coates Gardens. Cyclists and pedestrians have priority crossing but for vehicles joining Haymarket Terrace this either isn't clear or the motorists don't give a damn. Often see vehicles bully there way through people or block the cycle lane.

The junction at Coates Gardens will have to be redesigned or someone is going to get seriously injured or worse.
Not trying to start a right or wrong debate, honestly!
The vehicle traffic east and west on Haymarket Terrace is so heavy, that vehicles emerging from Coates usually have to rely on being ‘flashed out’ by one or more vehicles on the main road, who won’t flash them unless they’re ‘poised’ and ready to go.
In other words, if they wait where they’re supposed to wait, they’ll wait all day!
It’s a horrible catch 22 which leads to people taking chances that often end badly.
Think there’s a fair bit of confusion as well with everyone as to who has right of way , and the signage and road markings etc but I’m not qualified to give an opinion on that - I’m only posting about my personal observations at that junction in particular.


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[Just Alf]

Five Just Stop Oil protesters jailed for climbing gantries to block M25 https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...=share_btn_url

2 years in jail for blocking a road?

I'd understand that if folks got similar or more for beating folks up or robbing houses etc :-/

[LaMotta]

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Is that cycle lane any good? I'm only ever a pedestrian when I'm in Edinburgh nowadays and the one on Leith Walk looks like it was purposely made to cause accidents with pedestrians. If I were to cycle there, I'd use the road.

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I think it was Pretty Boy who posted about the Leith Walk one earlier, about how bad it is.

It's a discussion that's been had before on here, about how poor many of the cycle lanes are. In many cases, the road is the safer option.

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The Roseburn-Haymarket cycle lane isn't that great if heading out of town.
You take your life in your hands crossing from the road to the path then at Roseburn you have to get back on to the opposite carriageway again.
Personally, if I was in a hurry, I'd stick to the road and make better progress.
I've also noticed that the bike lane is also used by skate boarders, scooters, electric mobility chairs and also joggers with pushchairs, which is great if it's segregating these folk from cars and pedestrians.
One issue I do have however is how the cycle lane crosses the side roads like Coates Gardens. Cyclists and pedestrians have priority crossing but for vehicles joining Haymarket Terrace this either isn't clear or the motorists don't give a damn. Often see vehicles bully there way through people or block the cycle lane.

That stretch of cycle lane is not like the Leith Walk one. The cyclist i referenced yesterday was driving like a lunatic. It would have been safer for everyone if he'd been in the cycle lane IMO. He had to stop twice at traffic lights too which he wouldnt have done on the cycle lane so he was unlikely to be making faster progress. I do recognise the issues at Coates Crescent though, its a shambles.

However if basically people who do cycle are saying that there is no point in that stretch of cycle lane then what an absolutely ridiculous waste of Edinburgh tax payers money as well as the 2 year disruption caused to businesses etc. Add in the reduced no.of parking spaces on Roseburn Terrace still affecting businesses.

Ive yet to see any cyclist use the Melville St stretch of cycle lane either. Utterly pointless.

[J-C]

Another cyclist yesterday who decided not to use the expensive cycle lane at West Coates/Roseburn but instead held everyone up and then dismounted at the crossing at Roseburn Ter, where he would've got off if he'd used the cycle lane safely.

[silverhibee]

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There's some crackers on Albion Road and Albion Place. It is a H&S issue with pedestrians walking on the road on match days. I tripped on one in Jan/Feb and my foot and ankle haven't been right since.

I raise you Pennywell Road, if you can call it a road.

[overdrive]

Linked to the Leith Walk cycle lane design is the issue of the floating bus stops. There was something on the UK news the other day about blind organisations calling for these bus stops to be banned as they are dangerous for blind people. This is something I agree with. My mum has deteriorating eye sight and they are a nightmare for her. Even ignoring blind people, the fact there’s hardly any “pavement” between the bus stops and the cycle lanes mean you can easily have an accident just by stepping off the bus.

On the news item, they were interviewing someone about it and the amount of near misses during the item was incredible - even with her being on the pedestrian bit (I think this was in London). Then they interviewed someone from a cycling organisation who gave off the impression of “who cares about others, I feel safer because of them, so we should build more”

[overdrive]

Speed bumps where the paintwork on them has faded. Not only crap for drivers as they are harder to see but also for pedestrians crossing the road.

I was driving past the Edinburgh Park station/tram stop earlier and there was an elderly woman crossing the road from the retail park towards the tram stop. She must not have been able to see the speed bump and tripped over it, landing face first on the ground (I accept she was partly in the wrong as she could have walked a little bit further along to the crossing instead of crossing there).

Even worse - there were others crossing the road who just looked and didn’t help her up. I was going to get out to help but the passenger in the car in front got out to help.

[Hibrandenburg]

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Speed bumps where the paintwork on them has faded. Not only crap for drivers as they are harder to see but also for pedestrians crossing the road.

I was driving past the Edinburgh Park station/tram stop earlier and there was an elderly woman crossing the road from the retail park towards the tram stop. She must not have been able to see the speed bump and tripped over it, landing face first on the ground (I accept she was partly in the wrong as she could have walked a little bit further along to the crossing instead of crossing there).

Even worse - there were others crossing the road who just looked and didn’t help her up. I was going to get out to help but the passenger in the car in front got out to help.

I hit one of those on my bike a couple of decades ago. I had about 5 seconds of free flying before I hit the road and scraped half my skin off in the ensuing tarmac slide that followed my landing. Great for slowing cars, potentially lethal for cyclists.

[silverhibee]

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The one at St John’s road on inside lane is a car breaker, right outside the Italian restaurant heading out of town, and it has been like that for a few weeks now and hole just gets bigger and deeper.

Inside lane now coned off while they fix the drain and huge hole, which means delays going out of town.

[lapsedhibee]

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Guy on the horn behind her at a busy roundabout because she was a bit slow in joining on also a woman doing the same when she stalled at traffic lights decided to get out the car and give her a mouthful.

Sexist!

[hibee_girl]

The temp traffic lights on restalrig road that have been there forever!

[LaMotta]

That roundabout on the Calder Road going West where the lanes are really tight and vehicles going left towards Wester Hailes often collide with vehicles going straight on. Been numerous crashes there over the last few years - another one yesterday that caused mayhem, with two lanes getting shut off for ages after. Nothing gets done about it though

[Just Alf]

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That roundabout on the Calder Road going West where the lanes are really tight and vehicles going left towards Wester Hailes often collide with vehicles going straight on. Been numerous crashes there over the last few years - another one yesterday that caused mayhem, with two lanes getting shut off for ages after. Nothing gets done about it though

In roughly that same spot (at end of bus lane thiugh) .... I've seen two accidents where cars from outside lane cut across to the left lane hitting the car on the inside lane... I've had near misses a few times myself (glad of my trusty horn!)
The number of drivers who seem oblivious to the fact that the bus lanes are only on at certain times is incredible :-(

[LaMotta]

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In roughly that same spot (at end of bus lane thiugh) .... I've seen two accidents where cars from outside lane cut across to the left lane hitting the car on the inside lane... I've had near misses a few times myself (glad of my trusty horn!)
The number of drivers who seem oblivious to the fact that the bus lanes are only on at certain times is incredible :-(

Funnily enough someone nearly hit me when I made the same journey the day before at that exact spot you are talking about, doing that very thing. I think people think if one of their wheels hits the bus lane into the bus lane their car will explode