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    https://news.stv.tv/world/roof-trump...safety-reasons

    Kimberly Cheatle, the Secret Service director, said the “sloped roof” where Crooks was positioned was not manned because of a “safety factor”.

    “That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there’s a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn’t want to put somebody up on a sloped roof,” she told ABC News on Tuesday.

    She added that a “decision was made to secure the building, from inside”.
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    https://news.stv.tv/world/roof-trump...safety-reasons

    Kimberly Cheatle, the Secret Service director, said the “sloped roof” where Crooks was positioned was not manned because of a “safety factor”.

    “That building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, there’s a safety factor that would be considered there that we wouldn’t want to put somebody up on a sloped roof,” she told ABC News on Tuesday.

    She added that a “decision was made to secure the building, from inside”.
    So if assassinating a president chose a sloped roof, good luck if he comes to Edinburgh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    So if assassinating a president chose a sloped roof, good luck if he comes to Edinburgh
    The article is even illustrated with security walking up a sloped roof!! The one that they shot and killed the gunman from!!
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    Interesting thread of the last time a former president was shot. Teddy Rosevelt was going for a third term after giving up the presidency 4 years before. He was shot by a man who said he had spoken to the ghost of president Mckinley who told him not to let Rosevelt get a third term. Mckinley was assassinated previously and Rosevelt took the presidency.

    Rosevelt was saved after the bullet hit a glasses case and a speech in his pocket. He didn't go to hospital although he had a bullet in him and chose to give the speech he was going to do. He initially got a boost from sympathy but it dropped and he lost the election to Woodrow Wilson 🤞

    https://x.com/lewis_goodall/status/1813224985474809927

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Interesting thread of the last time a former president was shot. Teddy Rosevelt was going for a third term after giving up the presidency 4 years before. He was shot by a man who said he had spoken to the ghost of president Mckinley who told him not to let Rosevelt get a third term. Mckinley was assassinated previously and Rosevelt took the presidency.

    Rosevelt was saved after the bullet hit a glasses case and a speech in his pocket. He didn't go to hospital although he had a bullet in him and chose to give the speech he was going to do. He initially got a boost from sympathy but it dropped and he lost the election to Woodrow Wilson 🤞

    https://x.com/lewis_goodall/status/1813224985474809927
    That's not the most recent attempt

    1981 Ronald Reagan was shot in the lung

    https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/permanent-exhibits/assassination-attempt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    That's not the most recent attempt

    1981 Ronald Reagan was shot in the lung

    https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/perman...nation-attempt
    He was a current President.


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    Why would VP contender Vance delete this from his website, I wonder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    So if assassinating a president chose a sloped roof, good luck if he comes to Edinburgh
    Our gun laws mean it probably won't happen as we are a civilised society but it shouldn't necessarily stop our German Shepherd from eliminating the creature that he is.

    Why would Scotland want him on their soil though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostonhibby View Post
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    Our gun laws mean it probably won't happen as we are a civilised society but it shouldn't necessarily stop our German Shepherd from eliminating the creature that he is.

    Why would Scotland want him on their soil though?

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    He sadly has sizeable business assets here and is potentially a World leader again…sadly that means something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylar View Post
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    He sadly has sizeable business assets here and is potentially a World leader again…sadly that means something.
    I hear you. UK is a free for all for American businesses

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    Looks like Pelosi is starting to move against Biden.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/0...tions-00168767


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Looks like Pelosi is starting to move against Biden.

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    Pelosi ! She’s 3 years older than Biden

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    Pelosi ! She’s 3 years older than Biden
    She’s not going for the job.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    She’s not going for the job.


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    I know but the Dems are relying on an 84 year old to lead the Party to the new dawn

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    https://x.com/marionawfal/status/181...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

    Biden has Covid and is now open to standing aside.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    https://x.com/marionawfal/status/181...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

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    I think it’s too late for any Biden replacement to make any inroads to Trump’s potential landslide victory.

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    Trump is ahead of Biden 1.5% points in the polls of polls. Harris is slightly closer than Biden. I think she's definitely a better bet and if she does well in the debates it would be closer than just now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Trump is ahead of Biden 1.5% points in the polls of polls. Harris is slightly closer than Biden. I think she's definitely a better bet and if she does well in the debates it would be closer than just now
    Is doing well in debates a given? Sure, she'll be better than Biden at them but she's prone to a gaffe and talking nonsense herself. Saying that, I watched a YouTube video recently that was critical of her public speaking as VP but one of their theories was she was just a bit arrogant and she doesn't think she needs to prepare properly in situations where questions would be asked of her. Surely, she'd be fully prepped for these things in the event of running for President. I do think she struggles a bit, though when she has to think on her feet.

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    Is doing well in debates a given? Sure, she'll be better than Biden at them but she's prone to a gaffe and talking nonsense herself. Saying that, I watched a YouTube video recently that was critical of her public speaking as VP but one of their theories was she was just a bit arrogant and she doesn't think she needs to prepare properly in situations where questions would be asked of her. Surely, she'd be fully prepped for these things in the event of running for President. I do think she struggles a bit, though when she has to think on her feet.
    I don't think she's a good candidate but either is trump. Biden was to tired to force anything. Abortion is a huge problem for them in the swing states and Harris could hammer home on it. He'd be favourite regardless, the US is so polarised that it's doesn't matter who runs for most

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    I don't think she's a good candidate but either is trump. Biden was to tired to force anything. Abortion is a huge problem for them in the swing states and Harris could hammer home on it. He'd be favourite regardless, the US is so polarised that it's doesn't matter who runs for most
    I think the appointment of Vance helps the democrats on this issue as well as others.


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    Going off at an angle if I may: by any standards Trump's assassination attempt was global news and yet in The Times newspaper on Monday, Tuesday Wednesday and today guess how many letters were printed about this event ?One.Absolutely bizarre - I really don't understand it. I wrote asking them why, but no reply so far. I'm not saying that there should or shouldn't be, but really ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pollution View Post
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    Going off at an angle if I may: by any standards Trump's assassination attempt was global news and yet in The Times newspaper on Monday, Tuesday Wednesday and today guess how many letters were printed about this event ?One.Absolutely bizarre - I really don't understand it. I wrote asking them why, but no reply so far. I'm not saying that there should or shouldn't be, but really ?
    While a shocking event, it’s not really a political event?
    There doesn’t really appear to be a political motive. If Trump is not there, he maybe shoots at Biden or just heads down to his local primary school.


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    Anyone else wondering if this was a set up, bullet misses, Trump pushed to the floor by secret service and a wee bit blood on his face and ear appears. How would shooter miss from where he was, then we have the nonsense about sloping roofs, when their own snipers were on a sloping roof. A lot of things not adding up and I'm never one for conspiracy theories.

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    Anyone else wondering if this was a set up, bullet misses, Trump pushed to the floor by secret service and a wee bit blood on his face and ear appears. How would shooter miss from where he was, then we have the nonsense about sloping roofs, when their own snipers were on a sloping roof. A lot of things not adding up and I'm never one for conspiracy theories.
    I have to admit I agree. That theory makes the most sense to me but like everything, I can’t believe it’s true.

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    Farage and Truss are a pair of goats, truss just blanks her https://x.com/MagheraSir/status/1814241530095321425

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-C View Post
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    Anyone else wondering if this was a set up, bullet misses, Trump pushed to the floor by secret service and a wee bit blood on his face and ear appears. How would shooter miss from where he was, then we have the nonsense about sloping roofs, when their own snipers were on a sloping roof. A lot of things not adding up and I'm never one for conspiracy theories.
    For this to be a set up the republicans would have have to have found a willing 20 year old lad to commit suicide for the cause. He was filmed climbing up with the riffle and shooting, then filmed with a dozen bullets going in him and his head getting mushed. Who is willing to do that and how do the keep it a secret forever as it would obviously bring down everyone involved.

    Further they have also got another man in the crowd who was shot to commit suicide. He has a decade of social media postings and friends who are grieving him. So two men dead to make trump look good. That's mental to me utterly.

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    Notice Russell Brand has embraced everything Republican now. He's doing podcasts from the convention, had Farage yesterday spouting his bile

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    The assassination attempt hasn't put the boosters on Trump as thought. People don't like chaos. This RNC won't make people feel better either, absolutely madcap.

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    That's mental to me utterly.
    You have to admit there's some questions to be answered. How did a bullet from an M-15 just cause a small cut on his ear? Why did the Secret Service let him stand up for the photo? Why didn't they act when informed of the gunman minutes before the shooting? I'm not one for conspiracy theories (pause to allow laughter to die down) but there's something odd about this shooting.

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    You have to admit there's some questions to be answered. How did a bullet from an M-15 just cause a small cut on his ear? Why did the Secret Service let him stand up for the photo? Why didn't they act when informed of the gunman minutes before the shooting? I'm not one for conspiracy theories (pause to allow laughter to die down) but there's something odd about this shooting.
    So you go from legitimate questions and failings from the services to two people volunteering to commit suicide for the cause. Which is more nuts it's not even comparable. It was filmed in real time from hundreds of people. There's a photo of a bullet flying past him, videos of the perps head being blown off.

    It seems incompetence from the security services, he was the distance of a football pitch away and that should have been cleared. The perps search records from Google show him searching all Trump and Bidens movements and searching about stress and depression in the months before

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