2024-25 season non-Hibs games thread

[JohnM1875]

I know no one actually cares about the world champion games then? Equivalent to USA being world champions at baseball.

[Pagan Hibernia]

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Hearts 1 Tottenham Development 4

Come on spurs, make it 5 and end them as a club

[LunasBoots]

Scottish referee showing why he's only reffing at domestic level

[Squealing pig]

Hearts deid

[LunasBoots]

Lol, Spurs youth no bad 😄

[truehibernian]

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Come on spurs, make it 5 and end them as a club

Cardigan Elites 1 Spurs Kids 5

[ancient hibee]

Good experience for them before they go to Fleetwood.

[Pagan Hibernia]

Lol unlucky hearts. I suppose winning 5-1 ain't for everyone

[SteveHFC]

Every defeat plants another seed of doubt keep them coming

[ElginHibbie]

2 clubs killed in Edinburgh in less than 24 hours, sad to see

[HIBERNIAN-0762]

The excuses over the road are the usual laugh a lot 😂😂😂

[Trinity Hibee]

Thumped 5-1 by the Spurs kids 😂😂 embarrassing

[Alfred E Newman]

Did they have a pre game march?

[truehibernian]

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Thumped 5-1 by the Spurs kids 😂😂 embarrassing

Could and should have been 8 second half too - to be fair they matched them first half but second half it’s abundantly clear that they’ll be very susceptible defensively this season, centre halves are woeful, Halkett looks two stone overweight, their new full back plays like a headless chicken and they’re lightweight in midfield big time. Spurs teens were excellent- I’d be looking at a couple of them if possible, especially the centre forward who scored their second.

Terrible pre-season so far for them 👍 injuries, losing to a rank Orient side, and
humbled by Ange’s teenagers 👌

[gbhibby]

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Did they have a pre game march?

The post game march is the walk of the dead.

[TrinityHFC]

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Messi was excellent in 2014 world cup, really good.

You can't judge the best ever on 4 weeks every 4 years imo. Messi was putting up 60 goal seasons for 10 years at the highest level.

Messi scored 27 goals in major tournaments for Argentina, reaching 7 finals. (WC or copa America). Maradona scored 12. He literally batters maradona internationally in every possible way.

Pele had a brilliant record in world cups, no doubt. But Messi still scored more goals in the world cup than Pele. If that was Pele at his best, and Messi wasn't at his best, what does it say?

Guy is just miles clear in any statistical way. May not be your favourite but there is zero logical argument against him being clear imo.

Do respect the opinions on who was better to watch etc. Messi certainly not my favourite to watch, but his accomplishments are literally unmatched.

Unmatched?

Pele had two world cups by 21. Playing significant role in winning one at 17 yrs old.

Messi’s time at Barcelona was great but he was hugely supported from a young age to a level they ultimately couldn’t afford.

Pele played in a league that is often dismissed but it also consistently produced world champions. Santos’ and Pele’s own record playing European teams was excellent.

There’s definitely much more of a debate than just saying Messi is unparalleled. In a number of ways there are others that come into the discussion.

[ancient hibee]

A strange game to take on. Surely they couldn’t have thought they would be a match for them. Pre season friendlies should be to build confidence and teamwork and not for running around getting slaughtered.

[Pagan Hibernia]

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Unmatched?Pele had two world cups by 21. Playing significant role in winning one at 17 yrs old. Messi’s time at Barcelona was great but he was hugely supported from a young age to a level they ultimately couldn’t afford. Pele played in a league that is often dismissed but it also consistently produced world champions. Santos’ and Pele’s own record playing European teams was excellent. There’s definitely much more of a debate than just saying Messi is unparalleled. In a number of ways there are others that come into the discussion.

Brazil may have won the 1962 world cup but Pele got injured in the second game and didn't play again in the tournament. I'm not sure that can be brought into this debate. I'm not sure world cups can generally. After all Kleberson won a world cup with Brazil. He certainly wasn't a better player than George Best who never played in one

[Trinity Hibee]

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Unmatched?

Pele had two world cups by 21. Playing significant role in winning one at 17 yrs old.

Messi’s time at Barcelona was great but he was hugely supported from a young age to a level they ultimately couldn’t afford.

Pele played in a league that is often dismissed but it also consistently produced world champions. Santos’ and Pele’s own record playing European teams was excellent.

There’s definitely much more of a debate than just saying Messi is unparalleled. In a number of ways there are others that come into the discussion.

Messi and Ronaldo have both been at the top level for 20 years which no before them is even close to matching. I highly doubt given the rotation and heavy tactical game that football now is that we’ll see either of their records broken. Both has obliterated records and won the biggest trophies in the game. Shared Ballon D’ors for about 10-15 years.

I appreciate some will have fondness for Pele, Maradona as it’s who they grew up watching and these players were truly legends of the game but In every metric Messi and Ronaldo blow everyone else out the water.

[Alfred E Newman]

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A strange game to take on. Surely they couldn’t have thought they would be a match for them. Pre season friendlies should be to build confidence and teamwork and not for running around getting slaughtered.

In the strange world they live in they actually do.

[Hibrandenburg]

Can someone open a new thread titled "Messi v Ronaldo v Pele v Maradona v Puskas v Benny Brazil" please?

[TrinityHFC]

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Brazil may have won the 1962 world cup but Pele got injured in the second game and didn't play again in the tournament. I'm not sure that can be brought into this debate. I'm not sure world cups can generally. After all Kleberson won a world cup with Brazil. He certainly wasn't a better player than George Best who never played in one

World cups can certainly be brought into it. They were the pinnacle of football.

At 17 he scored the winner in the quarter finals, a hat trick in the semi finals and 2 in the final.

Okay, take 62 out. He was kicked out of 66 then in 70 he was involved in 14 of Brazil’s 19 goals with a goal and two assists in the final.

Not quite comparable to Kleberson.

[Benny Brazil]

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Watching a pre-season Hearts game?

Not for me.

Spurs supporter watching Spurs - nothing wrong with that.
Spurs kids were excellent 2nd half should have been 7 or 8. Mikey Moore a real standout for Spurs only 16 as well.

[Pagan Hibernia]

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World cups can certainly be brought into it. They were the pinnacle of football. At 17 he scored the winner in the quarter finals, a hat trick in the semi finals and 2 in the final. Okay, take 62 out. He was kicked out of 66 then in 70 he was involved in 14 of Brazil’s 19 goals with a goal and two assists in the final. Not quite comparable to Kleberson.

I'm not arguing with Pele's performances and achievements. The point is players can play in and win world cups without being anywhere near the top of even their own era, never mind all time. Therefore winning two world cups at the age of 21, one of which he barely featured in, is not evidence of him being the greatest of all time.In 1958 and 1970, he was fantastic.

[truehibernian]

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Spurs supporter watching Spurs - nothing wrong with that.
Spurs kids were excellent 2nd half should have been 7 or 8. Mikey Moore a real standout for Spurs only 16 as well.

Hibs supporter watching Hearts get utterly schooled and skelped for free 👍 even better 😊

[Lago]

Hearts result merely re enforces English perception that Scottish football is guff.

[GreenCastle]

Hearts game…

New right full back is very quick and has a long throw..think he will do ok for them.

Dhanda I think will do well for them - he linked play and involved a lot. It’s the kind of player Hibs are missing just now I feel.

Shankland is so slow - yes he can finish but you can see why he’s at Hearts.

Devlin should have had a yellow but ref was biased to Scottish team.

Spurs…well they would have had a harder match playing against their own reserve team. Missing a load of players too.

Massive gulf between Scottish and English teams - nearly every Spurs B team play would start for Hibs.

[Wilson]

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Hearts result merely re enforces English perception that Scottish football is guff.

Which it is.

[Gordy M]

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Hearts result merely re enforces English perception that Scottish football is guff.

So when we beat Arsenal a couple pre seasons ago?

[Pagan Hibernia]

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Hearts result merely re enforces English perception that Scottish football is guff.

Scottish clubs' performances in European competitions prove that point, rather than pre-season friendlies.