Southgate stands down as England manager

[Billy Whizz]

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Potter will get it.

They’ll need a stronger more experienced manager than him

Seemingly Bellingham was having a massive fallout with Southgate in the 2nd half on Sunday night. 20 years of age and behind like this

[erin go bragh]

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They should go for a homegrown manager, Lee Johnson is available.

Terry Butcher is also available

[SteveHFC]

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They’ll need a stronger more experienced manager than him

Seemingly Bellingham was having a massive fallout with Southgate in the 2nd half on Sunday night. 20 years of age and behind like this

Sure Bellingham was hated by his teammates at Dortmund.

[Bostonhibby]

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Potter will get it.

Cannae see St Johnstone letting him go now he's got them playing such attractive football.

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[Billy Whizz]

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Sure Bellingham was hated by his teammates at Dortmund.

I wasn’t aware of that

[Bishop Hibee]

Southgate was unlucky at Euro 2020 but tactics let him down in Euro 2024. If the FA are serious about winning a trophy they shoujd break the bank and get Klopp. I expect a Graham Potter type appointment thankfully.

[hibsbollah]

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Potter will get it.

I think his Leicester experience will have scared him off working in England again

[OstKurve Hibs]

Aye on paper he done well, England always get such easy draws tho and I'm pretty sure their record against teams in the top 10 of the ranking is pretty brutal. Less than 30% win rate v top 10 and these are the teams you need to beat to win trophies and thank god they choke every time.

They will have a better chance of winning something now southgates gone.
He's got some great players in the squad but he wasn't brave enough with his tactics to let them of the leash so to speak.

[NC1875]

I’m not sure he’s done as good a job as some make out.

Arguably the most talented squad in the world and won nothing.

He didn’t even have them playing well. Not surprised in the slightest that he’s gone.

[Trinity Hibee]

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They’ll need a stronger more experienced manager than him

Seemingly Bellingham was having a massive fallout with Southgate in the 2nd half on Sunday night. 20 years of age and behind like this

Bellingham just looks like someone who has ideas above his station. He had a terrible tournament by his standards so should maybe look in the mirror first

[SteveHFC]

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I wasn’t aware of that

https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/jude...6a8d8f11c6a755

[J-C]

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He'll fit in well at Real,the whole club has that attitude, probably why they are so successful.

[LaMotta]

Post 66, he is far and away the best manager England have ever had. Didn't even qualify for a tournament for a whole decade from 72 - 82. They look back at Bobby Robson and Venables as heroes - both of them scraped to semi finals with a load of draws. Robson even lost 3 out of three in Euro 88 and had them bottom of the group. Erikkson never got past quarters with an unbelievable team, Capello - disaster, Steve McLaren even worse.Who do they think they are claiming Southgate wasn't good enough for them??

[DH1875]

Ancelotti is definitely leaving Real end of this season. Alonso is getting the job, that's why he's staying at Leverkusen this year.

[Bostonhibby]

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Post 66, he is far and away the best manager England have ever had. Didn't even qualify for a tournament for a whole decade from 72 - 82. They look back at Bobby Robson and Venables as heroes - both of them scraped to semi finals with a load of draws. Robson even lost 3 out of three in Euro 88 and had them bottom of the group. Erikkson never got past quarters with an unbelievable team, Capello - disaster, Steve McLaren even worse.Who do they think they are claiming Southgate wasn't good enough for them??

In my experience, generally it's an English football fan and media thing that they are the best and all that ever stops them winning everything and taking up their rightful place is not having the right manager.

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[Since452]

Roberto Martinez will get it. His agent is a hypnosis expert.

[CockneyRebel]

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I think his Leicester experience will have scared him off working in England again

Chelsea?

[Renfrew_Hibby]

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I wasn’t aware of that

He was having a right hissy fit at full time. While Pickford and Co were blubbering away he was busy kicking lumps out of kit bags and the likes.
Guys a bell end and has already got a bit of a reputation for goading opposition fans in La Liga.
Needs brought down a peg or two methinks.

[EdinMike]

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He was having a right hissy fit at full time. While Pickford and Co were blubbering away he was busy kicking lumps out of kit bags and the likes.
Guys a bell end and has already got a bit of a reputation for goading opposition fans in La Liga.
Needs brought down a peg or two methinks.

Wonder how he’ll manage now that Mbappe will be the centre of attention at Real

[McD]

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He was having a right hissy fit at full time. While Pickford and Co were blubbering away he was busy kicking lumps out of kit bags and the likes.
Guys a bell end and has already got a bit of a reputation for goading opposition fans in La Liga.
Needs brought down a peg or two methinks.

Both goals he scored he seemed more interested in acting up to the fans (and opposition bench) than celebrate his goals.


Also, in the final, he was standing waiting for a Spanish throw in. He turned and waved his hand at a team mate 10 yards away to mark the Spaniard 3 yards from himself (whilst Bellingham wasn’t marking anyone), then threw his arms up in the air tantrum style because the throw in then went to that Spanish player. He could and should have been the one to close them down, but wasn’t interested and then stropped at his mate

[Lago]

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Chelsea?

Wrong Potter, think Harry 🤔

[ekhibee]

I think Carsley must be in with a good shout for the England job, he's done well with the Under-21's. It certainly didn't do Spain any harm, going in house.

[Posh Swanny]

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Post 66, he is far and away the best manager England have ever had. Didn't even qualify for a tournament for a whole decade from 72 - 82. They look back at Bobby Robson and Venables as heroes - both of them scraped to semi finals with a load of draws. Robson even lost 3 out of three in Euro 88 and had them bottom of the group. Erikkson never got past quarters with an unbelievable team, Capello - disaster, Steve McLaren even worse.Who do they think they are claiming Southgate wasn't good enough for them??

A lot is down to the luck of the draw though. Erikkson lost to the best Brazil side in years and two penalty shoot outs to a top Portugal side. Erikkson’s England team would have walked through the draws Southgate’s team landed in 18, 21 and 24.

[MWHIBBIES]

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A lot is down to the luck of the draw though. Erikkson lost to the best Brazil side in years and two penalty shoot outs to a top Portugal side. Erikkson’s England team would have walked through the draws Southgate’s team landed in 18, 21 and 24.

Sven lost to a Brazil side that barely qualified and was considered miles worse than 94 and 98.

[Pagan Hibernia]

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A lot is down to the luck of the draw though. Erikkson lost to the best Brazil side in years and two penalty shoot outs to a top Portugal side. Erikkson’s England team would have walked through the draws Southgate’s team landed in 18, 21 and 24.

Not necessarily. In those tournaments Sven's teams drew with Sweden a couple of times, and with Nigeria, and huffed and puffed their way to wins against Paraguay, Trinidad, and Ecuador. It was anything but impressive (apart from a couple of Rooney inspired wins in Euro 2004.) They also lost to Northern Ireland!And England fans hated Svens tactics and defensive substitutions

[Haymaker]

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Sven lost to a Brazil side that barely qualified and was considered miles worse than 94 and 98.

Ended alright for them though...

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[Scouse Hibee]

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Chelsea?

Whoosh 😀

[neil7908]

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100% good guy and put together a good team. Hounded out by their ****ty entitled media.

Agreed. England have a talented squad but similar problems to Scotland imo (albeit at a much higher level).

The quality they have is inconsistent - some genuine world class talent in attack undone by Tripper playing LB for most of the tournament, average CBs and issues at CDM.

I also think that a lot of these players are used to being surrounded by foreign players who are generally still much more technically proficient. So much of what has made the EPL great has been its success in getting talent from across Europe. Strip that away and there is too little technical ability.

[Yorkshire HFC]

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Agreed. England have a talented squad but similar problems to Scotland imo (albeit at a much higher level).The quality they have is inconsistent - some genuine world class talent in attack undone by Tripper playing LB for most of the tournament, average CBs and issues at CDM.I also think that a lot of these players are used to being surrounded by foreign players who are generally still much more technically proficient. So much of what has made the EPL great has been its success in getting talent from across Europe. Strip that away and there is too little technical ability.

I'd guess it's been a great 8 years to be an England fan - they've had great tournaments and he's given them some great nights. They have forgotten what it's like to not qualify or to not get out of the group stages.And he's done it with players that aren't as good as the ones Robson, Venables, Hoddle, Errikson etc. had. He's never had a Lineaker, Barnes and Butcher or a Shearer, Sherringham and Gascoigne - or a Rooney, Owen and Beckham etc. He's raised expectations - ofcourse they'll get a top name to replace him (at £5m a year ofcourse they will) but the requirement now is that they must win the World Cup - anything else will be seen as a failure - which is crazy.

[The Baldmans Comb]

Southgate sounded an absolute dour bore with the strangest accent and his rather drab but very functional team seemed to be a reflection of his narrow view of modern football.

Did England have some players missing as there were certainly no world class players on show from what some Scottish fans seem to think is the "best squad in the world". Mind boggling.

Spain for example were missing their whole midfield in Gavi, Pedri and latterly Rodri yet their reserves still controlled 80% of the game.

It won't matter who the next manager is as they can't get around the fact that technically English players don't have that first touch or speed of thought of Spanish, French or South American players and their engrained self entitlement of the next generation amplified by the gifted but petulant Bellingham dooms them to role of perennial losers.

Strangely a significant section of their more knowledgeable and impressive fan base recognises this but get blown overboard by hype, noise and pent up desperation of a country failing to come to terms with the reality of modern winning football.