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    It's so bleeding obvious that by all metrics he's a below average passer. His fans utterly terrified to admit he has a weakness.

    Hopeless our coaches work on this, and don't just blindly ignore it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by J-C View Post
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    So have we established if JC is a crap/good/average passer, or does it not matter because he's a 100% worker who'll chip in with goals and assists. Far too many getting on their high horse and looking for excuses just to keep an argument going but then again it's the way of this site nowadays, either agree with me or I'll badger you until you back down attitude, tedious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    It's so bleeding obvious that by all metrics he's a below average passer. His fans utterly terrified to admit he has a weakness.

    Hopeless our coaches work on this, and don't just blindly ignore it.
    What an odd way you have about discussing anything. "His fans utterly terrified" Everything is always so emotive.

    Perhaps the answer is that hes OK but could do much better. And yes im sure the coaches will be working on that just like they do WITH EVERY PLAYER.

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    So have we established if JC is a crap/good/average passer, or does it not matter because he's a 100% worker who'll chip in with goals and assists. Far too many getting on their high horse and looking for excuses just to keep an argument going but then again it's the way of this site nowadays, either agree with me or I'll badger you until you back down attitude, tedious.
    There’s one main protagonist on this thread it’s MWHIBBIES,goes above and beyond to slate Josh Campbell, can’t accept after telling us time and time again when he gets any praise how he feels. Strange unhealthy behaviour. Goes beyond the barrier of good honest debate. If you look through this thread and others where Campbell is mentioned you’ll see this user shooting down anyone positive about Josh Campbell excessively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    It's so bleeding obvious that by all metrics he's a below average passer. His fans utterly terrified to admit he has a weakness.

    Hopeless our coaches work on this, and don't just blindly ignore it.
    Sofascore have his biggest weakness as being ball control

    That for me sums him up

    Never seems to be in total control of the ball under hits and over hits his passes a sad indictment for a professional footballer never mind a midfielder

    Time will tell but not something you can teach or learn overnight

    He does have other attributes so not totally writing him off

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyrougier123 View Post
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    There’s one main protagonist on this thread it’s MWHIBEES,goes above and beyond to slate Josh Campbell, can’t accept after telling us time and time again when he gets any praise how he feels. Strange unhealthy behaviour. Goes beyond the barrier of good honest debate. If you look through this thread and others where Campbell is mentioned you’ll see this user shooting down anyone positive about Josh Campbell excessively.
    And god forbid you slag off Newell, that's sacrilege.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightside View Post
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    What an odd way you have about discussing anything. "His fans utterly terrified" Everything is always so emotive.

    Perhaps the answer is that hes OK but could do much better. And yes im sure the coaches will be working on that just like they do WITH EVERY PLAYER.
    No, okay would be average imo. Below average would be poor.

    Can I ask, if he had never scored a goal, would you still call him a goalscorer? Or does that stat also not matter

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    It's so bleeding obvious that by all metrics he's a below average passer. His fans utterly terrified to admit he has a weakness.

    Hopeless our coaches work on this, and don't just blindly ignore it.
    All our players have weaknesses , on another thread a poster mentioned he felt Newell slowed the game down to much to which someone else responded about the training video which had Newell in the middle with Gray telling him to move the ball quicker and to take only 2 touches.

    I'm sure Gray and the Staff are working on Campbells weaknesses just like the are on Newells and our other players . Maybe that's why josh played a brilliantly executed through ball to Boyle .

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    No, okay would be average imo. Below average would be poor.

    Can I ask, if he had never scored a goal, would you still call him a goalscorer? Or does that stat also not matter
    I don't remember calling him a goal scorer - no need to pigeon hole him. He's a more than capable useful member of our squad.

    You are claiming he is below average. Who are you rating that against as he is clearly above average in Scotland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyrougier123 View Post
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    There’s one main protagonist on this thread it’s MWHIBEES,goes above and beyond to slate Josh Campbell, can’t accept after telling us time and time again when he gets any praise how he feels. Strange unhealthy behaviour. Goes beyond the barrier of good honest debate. If you look through this thread and others where Campbell is mentioned you’ll see this user shooting down anyone positive about Josh Campbell excessively.
    you again.

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    And god forbid you slag off Newell, that's sacrilege.
    Nope, Newell has weaknesses too. Happy to admit that.

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    you again.



    Nope, Newell has weaknesses too. Happy to admit that.
    Aye me again after 5 pages of you again. 😬

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightside View Post
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    I don't remember calling him a goal scorer - no need to pigeon hole him. He's a more than capable useful member of our squad.

    You are claiming he is below average. Who are you rating that against as he is clearly above average in Scotland.
    His passing ability is below average. It's nothing to do with who I rate. Stats show that at Hibs, he is the poorest passer in our midfield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyrougier123 View Post
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    Aye me again after 5 pages of you again. 😬

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    His passing ability is below average. It's nothing to do with who I rate. Stats show that at Hibs, he is the poorest passer in our midfield.
    Can you see how you measuring him against players in different positions wrecks your argument. Can you see that by watching him and seeing what his job is on the pitch that he will by default have much more missed passes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightside View Post
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    Can you see how you measuring him against players in different positions wrecks your argument. Can you see that by watching him and seeing what his job is on the pitch that he will by default have much more missed passes?
    And that would be a very intelligent, insightful argument if it hasn't been pointed out 2 pages ago that he is also not creating chances or assisting often. He is just losing the ball.

    If a player is making more risky, final 3rd passes, he should be creating more chances, have a good xA and in the end, have more assists. Campbell does not.

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    Which stats are you all looking at, and which players are you comparing Josh with?

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    Which stats are you all looking at, and which players are you comparing Josh with?
    Could be footy stats.org Matty. Breaks down individual player stats. Although I’d argue folk can rely too heavily on stats alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyrougier123 View Post
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    Could be footy stats.org Matty. Breaks down individual player stats. Although I’d argue folk can rely too heavily on stats alone.
    Cheers, was hoping there was like an easily accessible comparison to have a look at, I'll go and see what I can find.

    Just wondered how much of an outlier Josh is compared to other Premiership midfielders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-C View Post
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    So have we established if JC is a crap/good/average passer, or does it not matter because he's a 100% worker who'll chip in with goals and assists. Far too many getting on their high horse and looking for excuses just to keep an argument going but then again it's the way of this site nowadays, either agree with me or I'll badger you until you back down attitude, tedious.
    Folk discussing their opinions on a forum, then elaborating when someone disagrees, shock!?

    Get off your high horse

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    I think Josh offers a lot to our squad and i'm glad he's in it. Think this will be a really good season for him.

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    If Josh Campbell had exactly the same assist and goal stats but played for someone like Motherwell and we were linked with him, I think most folk would feel comfortable with that. He’s not a world beater, but let’s remember who we are and where we play. Show me player in Scotland who doesn’t have significant flaws to their game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since452 View Post
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    I think Josh offers a lot to our squad and i'm glad he's in it. Think this will be a really good season for him.
    I agree with this.
    Hoping he does well.
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    I agree with this.
    Hoping he does well.
    Agree with this too, gives 100 percent, doesn’t hide, and scores goals.
    Playing higher up the pitch will suit him as well.
    Hes not a great passer of the ball, but he’s playing for hibs, and I wish all the players had his attitude, SDG seems to agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    It's so bleeding obvious that by all metrics he's a below average passer. His fans utterly terrified to admit he has a weakness.

    Hopeless our coaches work on this, and don't just blindly ignore it.
    The way you phrase things…it’s like you work for the Daily Express.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leithsansiro View Post
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    If Josh Campbell had exactly the same assist and goal stats but played for someone like Motherwell and we were linked with him, I think most folk would feel comfortable with that. He’s not a world beater, but let’s remember who we are and where we play. Show me player in Scotland who doesn’t have significant flaws to their game
    On a positive note. At least you've admitted Campbell has significant flaws to his game.

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    It's a close run thing between Newell and Campbell for our new scapegoat this season but I think Campbell might be edging it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHODAN View Post
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    It's a close run thing between Newell and Campbell for our new scapegoat this season but I think Campbell might be edging it!
    Our midfield has been pish for years and both these players have been in it.
    It's hardly rocket science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHODAN View Post
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    It's a close run thing between Newell and Campbell for our new scapegoat this season but I think Campbell might be edging it!
    No scapegoating, just people having a grown up, mostly civilised, discussion about a players strengths and weaknesses on a message board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coco Bryce View Post
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    Our midfield has been pish for years and both these players have been in it.
    It's hardly rocket science.
    Spoke too soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CapitalGreen View Post
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    No scapegoating, just people having a grown up, mostly civilised, discussion about a players strengths and weaknesses on a message board.

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