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    It doesn’t matter what the Democrats do with Biden now, Trump wins.
    Every gimmick hungry yob,
    Digging gold from rock and roll
    Grabs the mic to tell us,
    He'll die before he's sold.


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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    It doesn’t matter what the Democrats do with Biden now, Trump wins.
    I still think he loses.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    I still think he loses.


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    Elaborate, please Ozy.

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    In my opinion, Trump has been given the golden ticket to the White House. He will get 100% of the Republican vote, the vote of most fence sitters and, very importantly, a substantial number of ‘light’ Democrats who will give him a sympathy vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim44 View Post
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    Elaborate, please Ozy.
    I just don’t think America will vote him back in when it comes down to it in November.
    I’d like Biden to stand aside but I still think he can win.


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    I just don’t think America will vote him back in when it comes down to it in November.
    I’d like Biden to stand aside but I still think he can win.


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    I think prior to todays events, Biden probably would have been pressured into standing down eventually, with Biden having a very slim chance to win if he stood and Harris about 45% chance to win.

    I think today changes that and Biden will now run. I genuinely don’t think he has a hope in hell in winning to be honest.

    What baffles me the most is how even when the two candidates are possible the worst ever on offer, the obvious option of a credible 3rd party being formed and standing isn’t even considered an option.

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    Having seen photos of the injury Trump sustained he has to be the luckiest person alive. An inch to the right and he would be dead. He must have been facing directly at the shooter for him only to lose the top of his ear.
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    Having seen photos of the injury Trump sustained he has to be the luckiest person alive. An inch to the right and he would be dead. He must have been facing directly at the shooter for him only to lose the top of his ear.
    Or there was a straight line between his right ear, left ear and the sniper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    Having seen photos of the injury Trump sustained he has to be the luckiest person alive. An inch to the right and he would be dead. He must have been facing directly at the shooter for him only to lose the top of his ear.
    Seen some comments that it was actually shards from the teleprompter that caused the damage rather than actually being shot

    Not sure if that's right or not

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Or there was a straight line between his right ear, left ear and the sniper.
    Trump shooting.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callum_62 View Post
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    Seen some comments that it was actually shards from the teleprompter that caused the damage rather than actually being shot

    Not sure if that's right or not

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    Yeah, I didn't think his injuries were directly from a bullet.


    FWIW, my first thoughts on hearing about the shooting was that the whole thing had been rigged by the Trump team, but I realise I'm getting into the conspiracy theory nut-job area with that one...
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    There's a still which shows the bullet whizzing past his head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_M View Post
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    Yeah, I didn't think his injuries were directly from a bullet.


    FWIW, my first thoughts on hearing about the shooting was that the whole thing had been rigged by the Trump team, but I realise I'm getting into the conspiracy theory nut-job area with that one...
    Wait and see if the shooter gets silenced before you rule it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Wait and see if the shooter gets silenced before you rule it out.
    The shooter is dead, shot at the scene by marksm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-C View Post
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    The shooter is dead, shot at the scene by marksm.
    That's what they're saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    That's what they're saying.
    OK, what's your theory??
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    See Nigel Fascist is blaming Liberalism for this. Nothing to do with gun laws then.
    Wow

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    Wow
    It'll get worse when he finds out what liberalism is and how it allows the likes of him and his family rights and privileges they might not otherwise enjoy in this country.

    Wonder how the voters in Clacton are enjoying his commitment to the adulation he craves in the States and the time he is devoting to that part of the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    OK, what's your theory??
    Too early to say. The Warren Commission took nearly a year to report, and that wasn't exactly conclusive.

    As mentioned earlier, it was very strange to see Trump stand and punch the air in the middle of an assassination attempt. Trump's not normal, but it would be normal to hunker down. I haven't thought of him as unduly brave previously. I suppose recklessly stupid might cover it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Too early to say. The Warren Commission took nearly a year to report, and that wasn't exactly conclusive.

    As mentioned earlier, it was very strange to see Trump stand and punch the air in the middle of an assassination attempt. Trump's not normal, but it would be normal to hunker down. I haven't thought of him as unduly brave previously. I suppose recklessly stupid might cover it.
    Every news outlet is saying that the shooter was shot and killed by security marksman, are you disputing that?
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    Every news outlet is saying that the shooter was shot and killed by security marksman, are you disputing that?
    Too early to say. I don't necessarily believe everything that comes out of American polis depts. Has a motive been suggested yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Too early to say. I don't necessarily believe everything that comes out of American polis depts. Has a motive been suggested yet?

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    GSaDvF6XYAA7rR1.jpg

    This shows the bullet going past his head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Too early to say. I don't necessarily believe everything that comes out of American polis depts. Has a motive been suggested yet?
    It's America, do they need a motive to carry guns?

    Conspiracy theories abound. Republican 'attempts to assassinate the Republican candidate' but miraculously missed from 130m with high velocity rifle, amid high security and is pointed out by members of the crowd.
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    It's America, do they need a motive to carry guns?

    Conspiracy theories abound. Republican 'attempts to assassinate the Republican candidate' but miraculously missed from 130m with high velocity rifle, amid high security and is pointed out by members of the crowd.
    It's a strange way for a young man to effectively commit suicide. And Trump is such a big, fat target to effectively miss.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875 View Post
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    America is heading to a dark place. And Europe and the UK are not ready.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    America is heading to a dark place. And Europe and the UK are not ready.


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    just heard on Al jazeera she was a Trump appointee

    no wonder he's such a cocky cant

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    Quote Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875 View Post
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    just heard on Al jazeera she was a Trump appointee

    no wonder he's such a cocky cant
    She has done everything she can to delay the case for him. This was final act. It will be appealed but it now won’t happen until next year. The case itself is a slam dunk.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Too early to say. I don't necessarily believe everything that comes out of American polis depts. Has a motive been suggested yet?


    There would be dozens of witnesses to him being shot by the secret service surely?

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