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    Quote Originally Posted by Stubbsy90+2 View Post
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    Yup. And Joe Biden manages to do that when the teleprompter doesn’t break.

    As I said, I’m no fan of trump and his ideologies by any means, but the idea they’re equally as bad public speakers or that they’re at a similar stage in life in terms of their cognitive abilities is just silly.
    Biden has to drop out. Not just to beat Trump but for his own good and the good of the country.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stubbsy90+2 View Post
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    As I said, I’m no fan of trump and his ideologies by any means, but the idea they’re equally as bad public speakers or that they’re at a similar stage in life in terms of their cognitive abilities is just silly.
    You're quite right. Just not in the way you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    My only concern is any sympathy he may garner among his supporters.


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    Undoubtedly this will help him. Conspiracies will be rife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    You're quite right. Just not in the way you think.
    Ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Biden has to drop out. Not just to beat Trump but for his own good and the good of the country.


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    Delighted this never succeeded. Not because I like Trump but because this would have seen so many life’s lost in the fallout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim44 View Post
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    Any lingering chance, which Biden or a replacement Democratic candidate had of defeating Trump, has evaporated with this crazy incident.
    Yep. It’s quite scary to think what effect a Putin puppet in the White House would have.


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    Heard this on Morning breakfast, seemingly the shooter is a Republican party member, so his own members are trying to kill him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-C View Post
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    Heard this on Morning breakfast, seemingly the shooter is a Republican party member, so his own members are trying to kill him.
    I guess if you surround yourself with gun toting lunatics then results can get unpredictable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim44 View Post
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    Any lingering chance, which Biden or a replacement Democratic candidate had of defeating Trump, has evaporated with this crazy incident.

    Yeah, that's pretty much how I see it as well.

    My feelings on this are; I have sympathy for the innocent victim... but also dread what this could lead to, given the previous behaviour of some of his MAGA followers and the ridiculously entrenched divisions in US politics.

    Trump is going to make the most of this and I wouldn't be surprised if he encourages retaliation of some kind.

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    https://x.com/brianklaas/status/1812...C3BFp5Xyg&s=08

    Just a wee reminder of the man's lack of humanity. I guess he will understand if people have a similar reaction to his misfortune

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_M View Post
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    Yeah, that's pretty much how I see it as well.

    My feelings on this are; I have sympathy for the innocent victim... but also dread what this could lead to, given the previous behaviour of some of his MAGA followers and the ridiculously entrenched divisions in US politics.

    Trump is going to make the most of this and I wouldn't be surprised if he encourages retaliation of some kind.
    Seconds after the shooting, with minimal damage to himself, admittedly, he was fist pumping and screaming fight, fight, fight. Consequences will be grave for America, internally and also for world peace as Trump and his hero, Putin, unite.

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    It’s worked out pretty well for Trump, every image is election gold. Fist pumping with the American flag flying behind him. On the ground with his hands cupped looking like he is praying.

    Unfortunately unless Biden pulls out and is replaced with a very strong, well liked candidate, one evil act is going to lead to even more evil acts through a Trump presidency.

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    Reports saying that the shooter was a registered member of the Republican Party but had made a financial donation to the Democrats. Conspiracy theories will grow arms and legs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Good article. Sums up exactly how I feel about the whole thing.

    Feel desperately sorry for the Ukrainian people who in a matter of months will be cut free from air. Europe has to step up.

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    and there's TRUMPS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bristolhibby View Post
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    It’s wrong. 20 year old Thomas Matthew Crooks has been named as the now dead shooter.

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    i noticed this morning that tweet had been deleted


    i said several months ago, and even further back, that a country full of guns and amazingly no one had taken a pop at him
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bristolhibby View Post
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    Good article. Sums up exactly how I feel about the whole thing.

    Feel desperately sorry for the Ukrainian people who in a matter of months will be cut free from air. Europe has to step up.

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    Europe won’t go to war with Russia without U.S. support. If Trump gets in and pulls the plug the best hope is a ceasefire with Russia consolidating its territorial gains.

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    See Nigel Fascist is blaming Liberalism for this. Nothing to do with gun laws then.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NORTHERNHIBBY View Post
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    See Nigel Fascist is blaming Liberalism for this. Nothing to do with gun laws then.
    In Nasty Nige's world only his type of people would be allowed guns, to sort out the Liberalism and everything and everyone else that isn't like him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop Hibee View Post
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    Europe won’t go to war with Russia without U.S. support. If Trump gets in and pulls the plug the best hope is a ceasefire with Russia consolidating its territorial gains.
    Russia will bring war to us if we back down. It’s inevitable. It’s happened many times before in History.
    Thankfully democracies usually come out on top but we’ll spill a lot of blood.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Russia will bring war to us if we back down. It’s inevitable. It’s happened many times before in History.
    Thankfully democracies usually come out on top but we’ll spill a lot of blood.


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    My point. I’d rather send some tax pounds to Ukraine than send my sons there.

    Plus British industry benefits as we re stock all the ammunition and weapons used. More employment, more tax revenue, less Putin and Russians in Ukraine.

    Trump is like a kid, and he admires Putin SOOOOO much.

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    Do you think the secret service yelled “Donald Duck”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bishop Hibee View Post
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    Europe won’t go to war with Russia without U.S. support. If Trump gets in and pulls the plug the best hope is a ceasefire with Russia consolidating its territorial gains.
    Putin's already said that's not sufficient for this conflict to end. He wants to return the entirety of Ukraine to 'mother Russia's bosom'.

    Please don't ask me where I heard him say that (I honestly can't remember), but it was quite recently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylar View Post
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    Putin's already said that's not sufficient for this conflict to end. He wants to return the entirety of Ukraine to 'mother Russia's bosom'.

    Please don't ask me where I heard him say that (I honestly can't remember), but it was quite recently.
    He would need a ceasefire to do that. Crimea is unsustainable until then as it has no fresh water supply and is within range of Ukraine.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NORTHERNHIBBY View Post
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    See Nigel Fascist is blaming Liberalism for this. Nothing to do with gun laws then.
    I'm sure it's what the electorate of Clacton wanted.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylar View Post
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    Putin's already said that's not sufficient for this conflict to end. He wants to return the entirety of Ukraine to 'mother Russia's bosom'.

    Please don't ask me where I heard him say that (I honestly can't remember), but it was quite recently.

    Funny that he doesn't apply the same principles to Kaliningrad (or Königsberg) and offer to return it to Germany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berwickhibby View Post
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    Do you think the secret service yelled “Donald Duck”
    It's one of the things I question most (there's numerous potentially ridiculous security breaches)

    But would the secret service genuinely let the president pop his head up multiple times and raise a fist literally seconds after he's been shot at

    Absolutely mind blowing

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