Adam Le Fondre

[Greenworld]

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Like NM didn’t have enough problems 2 guys who know nothing about football dictating who he can and can’t play in an already terribly assembled squad, wouldn’t surprise me if he was told the same regarding Hanlon

Your not far from the truth, MM won't put up with any interference going forward however he cannot believe some of the contracts and his hands are tied financially this season .
The appointments of Gray and May start to make sense although I hope it works it was a financial decision no doubt about it.


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[Pretty Boy]

Seems to me if the decision was made from a contractual rather than football perspective then those making the decision should have fronted up and communicated that to the player. The imagery of two senior people at the club hiding to avoid someone is comical, possibly slightly exaggerated for such effect.

There are times when uncomfortable conversations have to be had. I had to confront someone about their personal hygiene at work once and it was excruciating for all involved but it had to be done and it was ultimately my job to deal with it. Expecting Montgomery to communicate a decision he disagreed with directly to the player doesn't sit well with me even if I agree with the overall decision reached (and in fairness to ALF he acknowledges such decisions are part of football).

[Greenworld]

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I guess it comes down to whether or not you think that the end justifies the means.

From what I've heard about the situation, there's no doubt in mind that the club could and should have handled that situation better while still achieving the same outcome.

Matty what worries me more is these are not isolated cases. MM has some job on his hands sorting out the utter mess of Kensell and Ian Gordon's contracts for players.
The only blessing is next season will sort the bulk of the players with so many out of contract.


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[Chipper1875]

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Nonsense, Monty and Sergio decided they wanted the age lowered, hence why we lost Paul and Lewis, the same goes for ALF.

Nonsense, Monty wanted to keep ALF

[Chipper1875]

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Matty what worries me more is these are not isolated cases. MM has some job on his hands sorting out the utter mess of Kensell and Ian Gordon's contracts for players.
The only blessing is next season will sort the bulk of the players with so many out of contract.


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Issue the people that created the mess are still here . Hopefully, information circulating about Ben , and he will be away soon

[Pedantic_Hibee]

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Total
Opposite . He had a two year deal
. He did nothing wrong . I’m
Guessing your the type
That moans when a hibs player heads west for massive pay rises

That’s quite possibly the worst poem I’ve ever read.

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Having read ALF's comments all he wanted was the people who made the decision to have the knackers to talk to him about it.

Sounds pretty reasonable of him to me.

[matty_f]

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Having read ALF's comments all he wanted was the people who made the decision to have the knackers to talk to him about it.

Sounds pretty reasonable of him to me.

[Chipper1875]

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That’s quite possibly the worst poem I’ve ever read.

That’s quite possibly the worst post I’ve ever read

[Chipper1875]

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Having read ALF's comments all he wanted was the people who made the decision to have the knackers to talk to him about it.

Sounds pretty reasonable of him to me.

Very reasonable

[Chipper1875]

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Matty what worries me more is these are not isolated cases. MM has some job on his hands sorting out the utter mess of Kensell and Ian Gordon's contracts for players.
The only blessing is next season will sort the bulk of the players with so many out of contract.


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Yip . MM can’t believe the mess made

[MelbourneHibees]

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Having read ALF's comments all he wanted was the people who made the decision to have the knackers to talk to him about it.

Sounds pretty reasonable of him to me.

Don't think anyone would disagree with that. But they might be upset about non coaching staff dictating which players do and don't play based on contracts.

[Real Emerald]

There’s a definite ‘skint’ vibe coming from the club. We shall see soon enough.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

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That’s quite possibly the worst post I’ve ever read

I’m guessing you haven’t seen my other ones over the years.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Not great that his injury was misdiagnosed

[TrinityHFC]

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Don't think anyone would disagree with that. But they might be upset about non coaching staff dictating which players do and don't play based on contracts.

He might have liked the ultimate decision maker to have spoken to him direct but that’s not really the way it works in most businesses. Line management is usually the one left to discuss these things.

[ChuckNor]

Another day another sign that Ben Kensell is out of his depth as CEO. He’s had football operations taken off of him because of countless poor appointments (three managers and Brian McDermott), we posted appalling financial results (swear they’ll be better next time), players like Jair and Kenneh on long term high-value contracts (I believe Kenneh is on around 4-5k a week though am not 100% on this), and finally his meddling in team selection has been made public by an experienced pro who couldn’t believe Kensell didn’t have the balls just to tell him.

Somehow people still defend Kensell because he paid a contractor to do up hospitality. And apparently, according to our “chairman” the fans are blind to all the good work he has done. Laughable.

Also, people need to wake up and realize the reason we aren’t spending money at the moment is because we can’t. The club is a basket case.

We need change. Ben Kensell has to go.

[TrinityHFC]

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Another day another sign that Ben Kensell is out of his depth as CEO. He’s had football operations taken off of him because of countless poor appointments (three managers and Brian McDermott), we posted appalling financial results (swear they’ll be better next time), players like Jair and Kenneh on long term high-value contracts (I believe Kenneh is on around 4-5k a week though am not 100% on this), and finally his meddling in team selection has been made public by an experienced pro who couldn’t believe Kensell didn’t have the balls just to tell him.

Somehow people still defend Kensell because he paid a contractor to do up hospitality. And apparently, according to our “chairman” the fans are blind to all the good work he has done. Laughable.

Also, people need to wake up and realize the reason we aren’t spending money at the moment is because we can’t. The club is a basket case.

We need change. Ben Kensell has to go.

So much pish in one post.

Seems a personal thing you should take up with him direct.

[we are hibs]

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[TrinityHFC]

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Have Hibs got you on the payroll?

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No, why?

[MrRobot]

It’s not great if they didn’t speak to him, however they have done what was in the best interest of the club so not sure how that shows they are out of their depth

[easty]

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Another day another sign that Ben Kensell is out of his depth as CEO. He’s had football operations taken off of him because of countless poor appointments (three managers and Brian McDermott), we posted appalling financial results (swear they’ll be better next time), players like Jair and Kenneh on long term high-value contracts (I believe Kenneh is on around 4-5k a week though am not 100% on this), and finally his meddling in team selection has been made public by an experienced pro who couldn’t believe Kensell didn’t have the balls just to tell him.

Somehow people still defend Kensell because he paid a contractor to do up hospitality. And apparently, according to our “chairman” the fans are blind to all the good work he has done. Laughable.

Also, people need to wake up and realize the reason we aren’t spending money at the moment is because we can’t. The club is a basket case.

We need change. Ben Kensell has to go.

I have no idea where stuff like this comes from.

My best mates and most of my family don't know what I'm paid.

I'll be filing "Kenneh is on £5k a week" alongside the "Chris Mueller is on £10k a week" nonsense. He'd never kicked a ball in a first team game in his puff before Hibs.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

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Another day another sign that Ben Kensell is out of his depth as CEO. He’s had football operations taken off of him because of countless poor appointments (three managers and Brian McDermott), we posted appalling financial results (swear they’ll be better next time), players like Jair and Kenneh on long term high-value contracts (I believe Kenneh is on around 4-5k a week though am not 100% on this), and finally his meddling in team selection has been made public by an experienced pro who couldn’t believe Kensell didn’t have the balls just to tell him.

Somehow people still defend Kensell because he paid a contractor to do up hospitality. And apparently, according to our “chairman” the fans are blind to all the good work he has done. Laughable.

Also, people need to wake up and realize the reason we aren’t spending money at the moment is because we can’t. The club is a basket case.

We need change. Ben Kensell has to go.

How do you know the football operations side of it was “taken off” Ben Kensell. Who took it off him? And how do you know what Kenneh earns?

[Ship of Hope]

I thought he added something to the team prior to his injury. When he came back afterwards no so much.

In light of missing several months of the season, his age and the likelihood he was on decent wages, being another year older and potentially a higher risk of further injuries imo the club made the correct decision.

His option for another year was triggered with a certain number of appearances. The club did not feel the extra year represented good value and were not prepared to trigger the extension. Alf agreed to the contract knowing this was a risk and imo the club and whoever made the decision did the correct thing.

There is the possibility that the decision was Monty’s but he was deflecting to keep the player onside for the latter part of the season. Essentially passing the buck onto the ceo/chairman but still turn up and play for me sort of thing. Either way the correct decision was arrived at.

Alf was a big boy and more than capable of knocking on the CEO door if he was not happy with what he had been told by the manager (his line manager).

I hope he finds himself another club and doubt we would have heard anything more about this if he already had.

[ChuckNor]

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How do you know the football operations side of it was “taken off” Ben Kensell. Who took it off him? And how do you know what Kenneh earns?

Malky Mackay was appointed. His role was to take full responsibility of all football operations. That left Kensell with zero responsibility for the football side. His salary has not changed.

I didn’t say that I knew. I was told by the same people that told me about the ALF situation, Montgomery being sacked, Gray’s popularity with current and former players as a coach and Eoin Henderson about to be sold to a team in Belgium.

On all of these points the people have been right and I’ve shared this info on .net ahead of them happening. I won’t start doubting them now. P

[superfurryhibby]

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I have no idea where stuff like this comes from.

My best mates and most of my family don't know what I'm paid.

I'll be filing "Kenneh is on £5k a week" alongside the "Chris Mueller is on £10k a week" nonsense. He'd never kicked a ball in a first team game in his puff before Hibs.

Please add the ALF, £15.000k/week to the list.

I'm baffled as to why the club wanted an appearance clause linked to an extension option to the contract to begin with? Maybe it's normal practice when you sign a 37 year old, either way they created the stick with which they are now being beaten with.

Leaving it to Montgomery to inform Le Fondre though, that was well shan.

[TrinityHFC]

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Malky Mackay was appointed. His role was to take full responsibility of all football operations. That left Kensell with zero responsibility for the football side. His salary has not changed.

I didn’t say that I knew. I was told by the same people that told me about the ALF situation, Montgomery being sacked, Gray’s popularity with current and former players as a coach and Eoin Henderson about to be sold to a team in Belgium.

On all of these points the people have been right and I’ve shared this info on .net ahead of them happening. I won’t start doubting them now. P

Shows how little you know about something you talk so much about.

BK is the CEO and a Board Director. He is ultimately responsible for all aspects of the day to day management of the club. We are a football club. The suggestion the CEO has zero responsibility for the ‘football side’ is ridiculous.

MM has been employed in a management role to run a part of the set up. His appointment has no impact on BK’s CEO role other than BK should be able to delegate more day to day activities to MM on that side of things.

[ChuckNor]

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Shows how little you know about something you talk so much about.

BK is the CEO and a Board Director. He is ultimately responsible for all aspects of the day to day management of the club. We are a football club. The suggestion the CEO has zero responsibility for the ‘football side’ is ridiculous.

MM has been employed in a management role to run a part of the set up. His appointment has no impact on BK’s CEO role other than BK should be able to delegate more day to day activities to MM on that side of things.

Read this article and come back to me. Stuff the CEO should lead on is being done by Malky. Fact.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11781/13135637/hibernian-nick-montgomery-sacked-as-head-coach-of-scottish-premiership-side

[Donegal Hibby]

It looks like something that's been badly handled again ...

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...ission-4698613

[1875Sean]

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Please add the ALF, £15.000k/week to the list.

I'm baffled as to why the club wanted an appearance clause linked to an extension option to the contract to begin with? Maybe it's normal practice when you sign a 37 year old, either way they created the stick with which they are now being beaten with.

Leaving it to Montgomery to inform Le Fondre though, that was well shan.

He wasn’t on anywhere near 15k a week tho, myth that’s been spoken about for ages on here and keeps appearing as it was on football manager when he was in Australia