Simon Murray

[Hibernian Verse]

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He didn’t score 23 league goals for Ross County.

FFS I've been taken in by a Hibs.net fact again.

11 league goals - close the thread, we better not sign him.

[Heisenberg]

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He didn’t score 23 league goals for Ross County.

His stats look pretty similar to the last time he was here, ripped apart the league cup groups but pretty average in the league.

[hibee-boys]

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FFS I've been taken in by a Hibs.net fact again.

11 league goals - close the thread, we better not sign him.

11 still better than all our strikers efforts, including the 2 that have cost us over a £million each in transfer fees and wages over the past year, and in a team that finished below us. I think he’d be a decent addition to the squad.

[JimBHibees]

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11 still better than all our strikers efforts, including the 2 that have cost us over a £million each in transfer fees and wages over the past year, and in a team that finished below us. I think he’d be a decent addition to the squad.

Also wouldn’t be so quick to right off scoring a shed load of goals in the cup competitions

[easty]

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Also wouldn’t be so quick to right off scoring a shed load of goals in the cup competitions

No, they shouldn’t be written off.

It should be taken into consideration though that in his cup games he played against the team who came bottom of league 1, the team who came bottom of league 2. Morton who finished 3 points above the relegation playoff in the championship, and Kelty Hearts who finished 6th in League 1.

I feel like I’m probably coming across as madly against signing him, but I’m really not. I’d take him as a sub on a free. No chance I’d spend 6 figures on him.

[HibsGW]

Girls don’t like boys girls like Simon Murrayyyyyyyy.

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[superfurryhibby]

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No, they shouldn’t be written off.

It should be taken into consideration though that in his cup games he played against the team who came bottom of league 1, the team who came bottom of league 2. Morton who finished 3 points above the relegation playoff in the championship, and Kelty Hearts who finished 6th in League 1.

I feel like I’m probably coming across as madly against signing him, but I’m really not. I’d take him as a sub on a free. No chance I’d spend 6 figures on him.

Pretty reasonable take on it.

Murray would be a useful addition to the squad, but I doubt we're paying a transfer fee for someone at his age.

I'm hoping for a bit more from the club this window. The BK's investment has created expectation, as has our dire form of the past two seasons.

[JimBHibees]

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No, they shouldn’t be written off.

It should be taken into consideration though that in his cup games he played against the team who came bottom of league 1, the team who came bottom of league 2. Morton who finished 3 points above the relegation playoff in the championship, and Kelty Hearts who finished 6th in League 1.

I feel like I’m probably coming across as madly against signing him, but I’m really not. I’d take him as a sub on a free. No chance I’d spend 6 figures on him.

Agree with all of that. Would be a very good option from the bench however don't think he enjoyed that last time he was here

[A Hi-Bee]

It is a squad game, we need a good squad not just 11 players, Murray and or Cummings would be very welcome additions to our squad.

[EVENTUALLY]

Good luck to Simon Murray if he lands a deal with Hibs but I'm not convinced he would take the side forward. IMHO he is not a natural goalscorer or blessed with great skill. His strengths are his running power and energy levels to maintain it over 90 minutes.

If that is what SDG is looking for as part of a formation to occupy opposition defenders why not give 2 youngsters 45 minutes each to do the same job and nurture their skill set as as goalscorering footballers. O'Conner and Clelland know were the net is and if not them another couple of young forwards. They may not work out but they'd be given support from the crowd and they could develop on the park if not at Easter Road for a transfer fee somewhere else.

[CapitalGreen]

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Good luck to Simon Murray if he lands a deal with Hibs but I'm not convinced he would take the side forward. IMHO he is not a natural goalscorer or blessed with great skill. His strengths are his running power and energy levels to maintain it over 90 minutes.

If that is what SDG is looking for as part of a formation to occupy opposition defenders why not give 2 youngsters 45 minutes each to do the same job and nurture their skill set as as goalscorering footballers. O'Conner and Clelland know were the net is and if not them another couple of young forwards. They may not work out but they'd be given support from the crowd and they could develop on the park if not at Easter Road for a transfer fee somewhere else.

Josh O’Connor is currently miles off the required level and Dean Cleland is 16 years old.

[CentreForward]

Almost seem to be detecting a hint of snobbery here about Murray. A player we let go and only at Ross County so he can’t be good enough kind of thing. As things stand I think he’d walk right in to our team and be top goal scorer and also invaluable for his workrate. Hope we sign him !

[B.H.F.C]

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His stats look pretty similar to the last time he was here, ripped apart the league cup groups but pretty average in the league.

14 goals in the league last season. That’s pretty good going for a team that finished second bottom.

Whether it’s him or anyone else, if we had a centre forward who was able to lead the line and get that kind of number, we’d be a lot better for it.

[04Sauzee]

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14 goals in the league last season. That’s pretty good going for a team that finished second bottom.

Whether it’s him or anyone else, if we had a centre forward who was able to lead the line and get that kind of number, we’d be a lot better for it.

Miovski 16 goals and 2 assists in the league, 197 minutes per goal

Murray 14 goals and 4 assists in the league, 211 minutes per goal.

I need to give my head a wobble and I wasn't that keen before seeing these stats.

[CapitalGreen]

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Almost seem to be detecting a hint of snobbery here about Murray. A player we let go and only at Ross County so he can’t be good enough kind of thing. As things stand I think he’d walk right in to our team and be top goal scorer and also invaluable for his workrate. Hope we sign him !

I’ve not seen anyone say “he’s only at Ross County so he can’t be good enough”.

It’s also not snobbery to point out there were reasons regarding his ability that resulted in us replacing him 7 years ago which still seem to be an issue.

[EVENTUALLY]

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Josh O’Connor is currently miles off the required level and Dean Cleland is 16 years old.

Well then someone else. Pele won the world cup at 17.

Listen I don't wish to be vicious but if its up front runners that David Gray wants then Murray is yer man but he's not mine. I think we're capable of attracting better than SM and we need more than a runner up front. As Eddie Turnbull said their is no subsitute for skill and I would hope our focus would be in that area.

[Donegal Hibby]

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No, they shouldn’t be written off.

It should be taken into consideration though that in his cup games he played against the team who came bottom of league 1, the team who came bottom of league 2. Morton who finished 3 points above the relegation playoff in the championship, and Kelty Hearts who finished 6th in League 1.

I feel like I’m probably coming across as madly against signing him, but I’m really not. I’d take him as a sub on a free. No chance I’d spend 6 figures on him.

The 6 figures probably won't be 100k either , your probably looking at 200k , 250k or abit more ... I don't think spending that sort of money on a player your not going to recoup or make a profit on is particularly good .

If he comes in , fair enough though I do hope we take in a target man instead , maybe one thats a marquee signing . Going from Maolida to Murray would be pretty underwhelming tbh .

[ancient hibee]

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The 6 figures probably won't be 100k either , your probably looking at 200k , 250k or abit more ... I don't think spending that sort of money on a player your not going to recoup or make a profit on is particularly good .

If he comes in , fair enough though I do hope we take in a target man instead , maybe one thats a marquee signing . Going from Maolida to Murray would be pretty underwhelming tbh .

If his goals were to win us a place in Europe it would be a very profitable transaction.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

So there’s been mention on the boards of Murray and also (perhaps Cummings) other than money can’t quite see how a second coming is an attractive one for either unless they absolutely back themselves.

[Paul1642]

One thing I’ve not seen mentioned is the fact that he’s 32, 33 at the end of the season. He’s a player who’s main attributes are energy and effort yet he’s at that age in an average footballers career where the energy levels drop at an ever increasing speed.

When Boyle was rumoured to be considering Australia this same argument was made against him and he’s a full year younger and although a pace based player has more ability than Murray.

I get the arguments for him but this move is not for me.

[Springbank]

Would like to imagine a headline "Vente double sinks Hearts" but genuinely can't imagine that

Simon Murray on the other hand...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C1n5WdLA-vE

[tamig]

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I’ve not seen anyone say “he’s only at Ross County so he can’t be good enough”.

It’s also not snobbery to point out there were reasons regarding his ability that resulted in us replacing him 7 years ago which still seem to be an issue.

Simon Murray was a late bloomer to the pro game. His time in South Africa and his spells in Scotland since seem to have improved him as a player. The Simon Murray last season is a more rounded player to when he was here 7 years ago.

[TrinityHFC]

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One thing I’ve not seen mentioned is the fact that he’s 32, 33 at the end of the season. He’s a player who’s main attributes are energy and effort yet he’s at that age in an average footballers career where the energy levels drop at an ever increasing speed.

When Boyle was rumoured to be considering Australia this same argument was made against him and he’s a full year younger and although a pace based player has more ability than Murray.

I get the arguments for him but this move is not for me.

33 is nothing these days. He’s not showing any signs of losing energy in his game.

[Donegal Hibby]

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If his goals were to win us a place in Europe it would be a very profitable transaction.

That's a possibility though from another angle we already have a striker we have forked out 700K on and I'd like to see us get one that would be beneficial to him .

I think a target man would be ideal along with the fact we don't have one either which would give us a totally different option in games if needed too .

[bingo70]

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33 is nothing these days. He’s not showing any signs of losing energy in his game.

Especially if we’re not asking him to play 90 minutes, 40 games a season.

I think Murray would be a good replacement for ALF, we would still need to replace Maolida as well though.

[Smartie]

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33 is nothing these days. He’s not showing any signs of losing energy in his game.

He’s not… but how long a contract would you be prepared to offer him at this age? Do you think he might be offered longer (but less lucrative) elsewhere - and that it may be tempting for him to take?

FWIW I still think he’d be a superb signing. It probably boils down to what David Gray is looking for from his number 9. I’m not convinced Dylan Vente is really going to be what he’s looking for but if he’s looking for a Duracell bunny to press from the front, I don’t think he’s going to get much better than Murray for the next year or 2.

[1875Sean]

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Especially if we’re not asking him to play 90 minutes, 40 games a season.

I think Murray would be a good replacement for ALF, we would still need to replace Maolida as well though.

Wasn’t one of the reasons given to ALF was that we wanted to bring the average age of the squad down?

[04Sauzee]

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Wasn’t one of the reasons given to ALF was that we wanted to bring the average age of the squad down?

I guess replacing someone who will be 38 in December with someone who hasn't long turned 32 would. But I get the sentiment.

[Ship of Hope]

The times I saw him last season he looked a real menace but also a bit of an end product. On a free transfer I would be 100% up for it. Less so if as expected we need to pay a sizeable fee to get Ross County to let him go. My feeling is we are better spending cash on players that will have some sell on value.

[Smartie]

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The times I saw him last season he looked a real menace but also a bit of an end product. On a free transfer I would be 100% up for it. Less so if as expected we need to pay a sizeable fee to get Ross County to let him go. My feeling is we are better spending cash on players that will have some sell on value.

Do you not think though that there’s also a place for spending money on players who are purely and simply going to have a positive effect on our first team, like Maolida?

Imo it’s a balance - we need to be making some signings with a view to having sell on value but there’s a place for a few who are simply about getting the team results.