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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveF View Post
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    Presidential debate on now (wide awake for some reason so watching it) and from the portion I've seen, Trump is being his usual crackpot self, but sadly Biden just looks like an old man who often forgets words mid sentence.

    What a terrible choice for the US public.
    Biden might be making complete sense but his age, obvious degenerative illness and demeanor will concern many voters. That was a hard watch and many Americans will be asking themselves if Biden is physically and mentally up to the job.


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    67% of CNN watchers say Trump won and all their anchors are slatting him, if he can't win CNN viewers what chance does he have. Trump talked nonsense as usual but he wasn't challenged and was confident in his pish. Biden has to decide what comes first him or the Democrats winning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    67% of CNN watchers say Trump won and all their anchors are slatting him, if he can't win CNN viewers what chance does he have. Trump talked nonsense as usual but he wasn't challenged and was confident in his pish. Biden has to decide what comes first him or the Democrats winning.
    Yep, based on last night Trump will stroll to victory as Biden was terrible. That's not to say Trump was good - he was a babbling ******** - but he was a babbling ******** who didn't look like he was on day release from a care home.

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    Look at this answer awful

    https://x.com/GeraldoRivera/status/1806533440130691159

    A few Dem representatives openly saying he has to go now, they shouldn't have been in this situation. Not much time for a new candidate to build momentum but I think we will see movement this week

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    Can they replace Biden now as the nominated candidate or is it too late. Surely someone somewhere has to step in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie_1875 View Post
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    Can they replace Biden now as the nominated candidate or is it too late. Surely someone somewhere has to step in?
    He needs to step aside himself as he's already got 99% of the votes to be nominated again, they can't go against that

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie_1875 View Post
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    Can they replace Biden now as the nominated candidate or is it too late. Surely someone somewhere has to step in?
    He is still not the official candidate so could be replaced. Why those around him, in particular his family, haven’t stepped in and told him he needs to step down for his own good is beyond me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    He is still not the official candidate so could be replaced. Why those around him, in particular his family, haven’t stepped in and told him he needs to step down for his own good is beyond me.
    It's not simple, he really has to do it himself

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...lot-rcna159374

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    It's not simple, he really has to do it himself

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...lot-rcna159374
    Let’s hope he does. He’s a decent man and if the right people approach him then I believe he’ll stand aside.
    It can’t be Harris who steps in though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    It's not simple, he really has to do it himself

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...lot-rcna159374
    No it’s not but it needs to be done.
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    Trump cut out a lot of the interrupting and shouting over Biden from 4 years ago. He just let him ramble on and trip himself up. He's still a clown but was a bit less belligerent and childlike.

    Most of what he said was utter nonsense but it was utter nonsense delivered with a degree of confidence and coherence. Biden was just a mess from start to finish.

    300M plus people in the USA and this is the choice they have for President.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    Trump cut out a lot of the interrupting and shouting over Biden from 4 years ago. He just let him ramble on and trip himself up. He's still a clown but was a bit less belligerent and childlike.

    Most of what he said was utter nonsense but it was utter nonsense delivered with a degree of confidence and coherence. Biden was just a mess from start to finish.

    300M plus people in the USA and this is the choice they have for President.
    That was a Biden backfire. Biden requested the first debate on CNN had muted mics when the other was talking. Many are saying it worked for Trump by making him seem more composed than usual and letting Biden ramble

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    That was a Biden backfire. Biden requested the first debate on CNN had muted mics when the other was talking. Many are saying it worked for Trump by making him seem more composed than usual and letting Biden ramble
    This is what should be front and centre.

    Not Biden rambling. Trumps absolute lies.

    The one about killing babies post birth was absurd.

    https://x.com/harryjsisson/status/18...QaJCvhCoXwjUPA

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    Trump definitely wins against Biden on that performance. God help us all
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    The democrats have only themselves to blame if they don't win the presidency again, Trump is terrible and yet a clearly failing Biden is what they put up against him?

    It was actually really tough to watch at points and his family and those close to him need to step in and persuade him to step away from this election.

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    What may save the Democrats is that in reality a President is a figure head and is not all powerful.

    Biden may be a aged man with a wandering mind but he is not a criminal. That might win the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pollution View Post
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    What may save the Democrats is that in reality a President is a figure head and is not all powerful.

    Biden may be a aged man with a wandering mind but he is not a criminal. That might win the day.
    A slender hope. Not one we should be risking for the role of the most powerful political position in the world.

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    how did it come to these two

    a man that could easily get a part as an extra in the walking dead, it's been quite sad watching him over the last few years



    ...and TRUMP

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    Quote Originally Posted by pollution View Post
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    What may save the Democrats is that in reality a President is a figure head and is not all powerful.

    Biden may be a aged man with a wandering mind but he is not a criminal. That might win the day.
    I think Biden has been a good president and has delivered well for the US economy as well as being a thoroughly decent man.
    He is also just about (along with Harris) the only person Trump can beat. It’s not worth the risk. It’s too important.
    The Democrats need to step up now and fix this. They still have time before the convention.


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    Given how bad it was these numbers should be encouraging for dems. They switch now and it’s recoverable.


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    I honestly think that Trump will win if Biden remains the candidate.

    It’s of course not a criticism of him as a person in any way whatsoever and can happen to any of us but Biden clearly has some sort of age related cognitive illness. This debate has highlighted it but there has been a number videos of him looking very confused at public events in the last few years, and I can’t help but feel like he’s maybe a bit of a puppet to others around him.

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    Cnn reporting not only is Biden refusing to pull out he's committed to the second debate in September

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    Democrats are repeating the mistakes they made with Hillary Clinton as they are providing all the reasons and excuses to not vote for their candidate. People want to feel inspired by a leader, not feel sorry for them. The Democrats had an opportunity to consign Trump to history, but arguably, Biden has been one of Trumps best weapons.

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    Seen someone saying some Dems thought Michelle Obama would be the only person that could pull a victory at this late stage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibs4185 View Post
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    Seen someone saying some Dems thought Michelle Obama would be the only person that could pull a victory at this late stage
    For a republic, Americans sure do love building political royalty.

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    Well, I think that 'debate' has pretty much clinched the election for Trump.

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    Biden in North Carolina says he'll be standing. Says he's older and might not debate well but at least he's not a Liar. Says he'll bounce back and win, I'm dubious unfortunately

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    Quote Originally Posted by pollution View Post
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    What may save the Democrats is that in reality a President is a figure head and is not all powerful.

    Biden may be a aged man with a wandering mind but he is not a criminal. That might win the day.
    No chance. Trump is only a criminal in the eyes of Democrats. He still has total support of every Republican and possibly most fence sitters. Biden is a liability and I think Trump will win convincingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pollution View Post
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    What may save the Democrats is that in reality a President is a figure head and is not all powerful.

    Biden may be a aged man with a wandering mind but he is not a criminal. That might win the day.
    The U.S. has the highest incarceration rate of any independent democracy on earth, Trump will have a considerable amount of people who vote for him because he has a criminal record. Being a criminal and elected leader are not mutually exclusive, Hitler wrote Mein Kampf in prison.


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