Hibs Women

[davhibby]

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Watched the content Hibs women put out on their new signing from the women's A league and from the highlights it looked well supported.

Given the quality of the international side I’d imagine the A league is a pretty good standard. Would seem that getting a starter from a team that’s done well in it is a really good pick up

[JimBHibees]

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Absolutely nothing.

[Forza Fred]

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Given the quality of the international side I’d imagine the A league is a pretty good standard. Would seem that getting a starter from a team that’s done well in it is a really good pick up

Was a surprising move tbh.

I think there is more money playing in the A League than in Scotland, but there are very few local Oz players who play in the national team, so I’m not sure the national team is a good barometer of the local league.

You are much more likely to see Aussie players playing for Arsenal, Man City, Tottenham, Paris St Germain, Lyon, Real Madrid etc playing for the Matildas than those who play at home……so in that context I’m not sure the relative ‘standards’ of each local league really indicates that much.

I would be untruthful if I said I had seen much of our latest acquisition……yes on occasion, but not enough to say she was a household name.

It’s off season in Oz just now and it’s not unheard of for players to play partly in both the A League (it’s very short) and in the English league in the same season.

I’ve seen the videos of her now, and yes, she strikes me as a very decent player who will do well at Hibs.

I’ll be watching with interest.

[ozwoody]

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They play each other again in a friendly in Sydney on Monday night.

Expectations are that crowd will exceed 70,000.

A League women’s league still playing to small crowds but the Matildas have been embraced by the entire population, regardless of age, sex etc etc.

Seems just about every little girl’s dream here now is to grow up and play for the Matildas.

Fantastic that they have their own role models, and fantastic how the Matildas engage with their fans.

If you want an example of a masterclass when it comes to football marketing…..then the Matildas it is.

76,700 at tonight's Matildas game, awesome attendance again.

[He's here!]

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76,700 at tonight's Matildas game, awesome attendance again.

That's extraordinary. Brilliant to see those sort of numbers watching women's football.

Scotland women have just won 5-0 in another closed-doors clash with Israel, this time in Budapest.

[Pretty Boy]

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Was a surprising move tbh.

I think there is more money playing in the A League than in Scotland, but there are very few local Oz players who play in the national team, so I’m not sure the national team is a good barometer of the local league.

You are much more likely to see Aussie players playing for Arsenal, Man City, Tottenham, Paris St Germain, Lyon, Real Madrid etc playing for the Matildas than those who play at home……so in that context I’m not sure the relative ‘standards’ of each local league really indicates that much.

I would be untruthful if I said I had seen much of our latest acquisition……yes on occasion, but not enough to say she was a household name.

It’s off season in Oz just now and it’s not unheard of for players to play partly in both the A League (it’s very short) and in the English league in the same season.

I’ve seen the videos of her now, and yes, she strikes me as a very decent player who will do well at Hibs.

I’ll be watching with interest.

I always wonder if part of the success of women's football in the US and Australia is because there isn't the same football culture in these countries. There still seems a deep seated bitterness among some here that women have dared to invade a 'mans game' and attempts to market the game or push it to a wider audience are 'shoving it down our throats'.

The sneering contempt and barely repressed anger just doesn't seem as prevalent in other sports. Women's athletics, tennis, swimming etc is treated as of equal importance to the men's game. Even a traditionally male sport like boxing has seen women draw huge crowds and earn praise for their skills yet football still seems to engender a weird 'I don't care' bitterness at best or outright mocking at worst.

Hopefully we can move past it because women's football isn't going anywhere and thankfully so. Participation at grassroots level is through the roof and why shouldn't young girls aspire to play in front of similar crowds to their male counterparts?

[He's here!]

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I always wonder if part of the success of women's football in the US and Australia is because there isn't the same football culture in these countries. There still seems a deep seated bitterness among some here that women have dared to invade a 'mans game' and attempts to market the game or push it to a wider audience are 'shoving it down our throats'.

The sneering contempt and barely repressed anger just doesn't seem as prevalent in other sports. Women's athletics, tennis, swimming etc is treated as of equal importance to the men's game. Even a traditionally male sport like boxing has seen women draw huge crowds and earn praise for their skills yet football still seems to engender a weird 'I don't care' bitterness at best or outright mocking at worst.

Hopefully we can move past it because women's football isn't going anywhere and thankfully so. Participation at grassroots level is through the roof and why shouldn't young girls aspire to play in front of similar crowds to their male counterparts?

Think you're probably right about the likes of the US and Australia, where men's football isn't entrenched as the No 1 sport, but in saying that the crowds for women's international football in England are exceptional, fuelled of course by the team's success. The London clubs in particular also draw huge crowds, way bigger than any Scottish men's teams bar Rangers and Celtic.

It's a shame the women's game remains so bereft of decent crowds up here. When Scotland played at ER rather than rattling around Hampden there was a decent atmosphere and the standard of play was, in my view, better than many believed. Hibs, too, when we were vying with Glasgow City as the top two in Scotland, were often good to watch.

[Forza Fred]

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I always wonder if part of the success of women's football in the US and Australia is because there isn't the same football culture in these countries. There still seems a deep seated bitterness among some here that women have dared to invade a 'mans game' and attempts to market the game or push it to a wider audience are 'shoving it down our throats'.

The sneering contempt and barely repressed anger just doesn't seem as prevalent in other sports. Women's athletics, tennis, swimming etc is treated as of equal importance to the men's game. Even a traditionally male sport like boxing has seen women draw huge crowds and earn praise for their skills yet football still seems to engender a weird 'I don't care' bitterness at best or outright mocking at worst.

Hopefully we can move past it because women's football isn't going anywhere and thankfully so. Participation at grassroots level is through the roof and why shouldn't young girls aspire to play in front of similar crowds to their male counterparts?

I think you are right in part.
I still have old fart Scottish born friends here with 1950 attitudes who scoff at the idea of girls playing football…of whatever code.

There are also women’s AFL and Rugby League competitions that are gaining audiences…but the Matildas are Australia’s most loved side…..and attracted the highest tv ratings EVER in Oz during the last World Cup.

Different atmosphere at their games…..more of excited people going to a pop concert than that of tribal warriors going to battle….many who are quite open about the fact that they may not know all the rules of the game.

Participation rates among females have soared.

Mind you, when it comes to connection with their supporters…the girls are superb.

Monty got pelters for it at Ross Cty, but win, lose or draw the players will make time for selfies, autographs etc whenever they can…and even in the A League the after match engagement with supporters is normal.

It’s even got to the point where supporters of all ages ..mainly young kids….gather outside the Matildas players’ hotel hoping to get photos taken on non match days when any of them go for a walk!

Different level stuff.

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Shannon McGregor now announced as leaving, very concerning times for the ladies team. Going to need a massive overhaul to even be slightly competitive.

[number9dream]

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Shannon McGregor now announced as leaving, very concerning times for the ladies team. Going to need a massive overhaul to even be slightly competitive.

Away to Celtic…

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Away to Celtic…

Just saw this, unfortunately these girls are getting offered more money, the opportunity to win trophies, probably better chance of playing for Scotland. Womens game turning into the mens, Shame.

[Pretty Boy]

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Just saw this, unfortunately these girls are getting offered more money, the opportunity to win trophies, probably better chance of playing for Scotland. Womens game turning into the mens, Shame.

Just said much the same elsewhere.

There was an inevitability about it as soon as that pair started taking it seriously but it's sad all the same.

Clubs like Hibs, Glasgow City, Forfar Farmington and so on done the hard yards for years growing and developing the game and much like the men's game everyone bar the big 2 are relegated to also ran (Glasgow City might hang onto the coat tails for a wee bit longer yet I suppose).

[marinello59]

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Away to Celtic…

Gutted. Good luck to her but we have lost one of our better players, she won’t be easy to replace.

[wallpaperman]

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Just saw this, unfortunately these girls are getting offered more money, the opportunity to win trophies, probably better chance of playing for Scotland. Womens game turning into the mens, Shame.

Yep, the women’s game is done in Scotland. The crowds are already very small, and the recent old firm spending sprees will mean the interest level plummeting further. Hibs will attempt to cling to their coattails by bringing in foreign journeywomen. Very sad.

[hibby rae]

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Gutted. Good luck to her but we have lost one of our better players, she won’t be easy to replace.

I'm actually a bit surprised about this move. I've always been a fan of Shannon's ever since we signed her, and at the time I thought she might go far, but she was usually reliable without being the superstar in the team, had some injury issues, and I thought Hibs was now the ceiling.

[PHeffernan]

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I'm actually a bit surprised about this move. I've always been a fan of Shannon's ever since we signed her, and at the time I thought she might go far, but she was usually reliable without being the superstar in the team, had some injury issues, and I thought Hibs was now the ceiling.

Looking like 5th again for Hibs women next season. Worst of the full time clubs.
We have recruited Stacey Papadopoulis and hopefully Rachael Boyle finally makes a more than fleeting return although i have my doubts after so many seasons lost to pregnancy and serious injury.

Who is the best player left at Hibs after losing Jorian Baucom, Leah Eddie and Naomi Powell?

[BlackSheep]

Hopefully some of the younger players coming through will turn out to be able replacements for those that have left. Big boots to fill!!

[Brightside]

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Hopefully some of the younger players coming through will turn out to be able replacements for those that have left. Big boots to fill!!

Will be a few years till anything comes through. Nothing at 18s level.

[He's here!]

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Just saw this, unfortunately these girls are getting offered more money, the opportunity to win trophies, probably better chance of playing for Scotland. Womens game turning into the mens, Shame.

I see she's saying she's a "massive Celtic fan" so even that aspect of the game is similar to the men's when a player joins one of the Old Firm.

[He's here!]

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Will be a few years till anything comes through. Nothing at 18s level.

Why is there nothing at that level? They seem to have healthy numbers training across the age groups at Meadowbank.

[marinello59]

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I see she's saying she's a "massive Celtic fan" so even that aspect of the game is similar to the men's when a player joins one of the Old Firm.

She genuinely is though.

[Brightside]

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Why is there nothing at that level? They seem to have healthy numbers training across the age groups at Meadowbank.

Coz we ignored youth for years. Massively playing catch up on Hearts (who have 2 youth player 17/18 both playing for first team (Husband sisters) and more coming behind Brodie Greenwood. We have zero around the Scotland youth squads and its going to take a while to catch up. The best young players are not at Hibs right now.

[Danderhall Hibs]

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Who is the best player left at Hibs after losing Jorian Baucom, Leah Eddie and Naomi Powell?

Probably Mcalonie - wouldn’t be surprised if someone is in for her.

[Danderhall Hibs]

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Why is there nothing at that level? They seem to have healthy numbers training across the age groups at Meadowbank.

The 18s are struggling - the link with the community side and not being an academy hasn’t been helpful. Lost players due to that and in reality Joelle Murray wasn’t exactly hands on.

It’s been positively changing over the last 12-18 months but like Brightside says it’s a catch up.

[PHeffernan]

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Probably Mcalonie - wouldn’t be surprised if someone is in for her.

Michaela has great playing attributes, like her passing range, composure, stamina and tenacity.
My one negative takeaway from the few times I have seen Michaela play was that she doesn't run like an athlete.

[superfurryhibby]

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I always wonder if part of the success of women's football in the US and Australia is because there isn't the same football culture in these countries. There still seems a deep seated bitterness among some here that women have dared to invade a 'mans game' and attempts to market the game or push it to a wider audience are 'shoving it down our throats'.

The sneering contempt and barely repressed anger just doesn't seem as prevalent in other sports. Women's athletics, tennis, swimming etc is treated as of equal importance to the men's game. Even a traditionally male sport like boxing has seen women draw huge crowds and earn praise for their skills yet football still seems to engender a weird 'I don't care' bitterness at best or outright mocking at worst.

Hopefully we can move past it because women's football isn't going anywhere and thankfully so. Participation at grassroots level is through the roof and why shouldn't young girls aspire to play in front of similar crowds to their male counterparts?

It's an interesting debate.

I'm all for women playing football, at any level. However, I don't understand why Hibs have a full time women's team. Why is it necessary? I can see that the big English teams see some commercial benefit and that there is a market to exploit, but that surely isn't the case up here.

I'm all for funding participation, think's it's a healthy area for community investment, but fail to see the need for professional players and a management team etc. Maybe this is part of the scepticism about women's football?

In terms of bitterness or patronising attitudes, who knows. Maybe folk know that the standard is very low and that even an elite women's side will be beaten by under 16 juvenile laddies side. With tennis or swimming for example, I guess that elite women still compete at a level way above decent male club level. Not so sure how boxing levels would translate across gender though.

[McD]

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It's an interesting debate.

I'm all for women playing football, at any level. However, I don't understand why Hibs have a full time women's team. Why is it necessary? I can see that the big English teams see some commercial benefit and that there is a market to exploit, but that surely isn't the case up here.

I'm all for funding participation, think's it's a healthy area for community investment, but fail to see the need for professional players and a management team etc. Maybe this is part of the scepticism about women's football?

In terms of bitterness or patronising attitudes, who knows. Maybe folk know that the standard is very low and that even an elite women's side will be beaten by under 16 juvenile laddies side. With tennis or swimming for example, I guess that elite women still compete at a level way above decent male club level. Not so sure how boxing levels would translate across gender though.

I thought we only had a few of the team as full time, with most of them being part time, which is why we tend to lose our best players quickly as other teams do offer full time, and higher wages

[Brightside]

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I thought we only had a few of the team as full time, with most of them being part time, which is why we tend to lose our best players quickly as other teams do offer full time, and higher wages

The vast majority are on full time contracts. But pay wise you’d get more working in macdonalds. Even at rangers etc the money isn’t great. So any girl wanting to make a living from it really needs to be getting down south if they are good enough. The other post making comparisons to boys football just isn’t worth going in to again. It’s women’s football not men’s / boys whatever. Zero point making a comparison. It’s does have to start living within its own means though. The team needs to bring in the sponsorship to afford to pay them more. Without that it’s just not going to improve. There are no more people watching the games at Meadowbank, that used to watch when they played out in Broxburn. Move the games to Easter rd whenever possible. Create a package for current STs. Free kids entry up to 18.

Needs a lot of change if it’s not going to drift back to amateur level imo.

[blackpoolhibs]

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The vast majority are on full time contracts. But pay wise you’d get more working in macdonalds. Even at rangers etc the money isn’t great. So any girl wanting to make a living from it really needs to be getting down south if they are good enough. The other post making comparisons to boys football just isn’t worth going in to again. It’s women’s football not men’s / boys whatever. Zero point making a comparison. It’s does have to start living within its own means though. The team needs to bring in the sponsorship to afford to pay them more. Without that it’s just not going to improve. There are no more people watching the games at Meadowbank, that used to watch when they played out in Broxburn. Move the games to Easter rd whenever possible. Create a package for current STs. Free kids entry up to 18.

Needs a lot of change if it’s not going to drift back to amateur level imo.

Did you not tell me that crowds would rise in the woman's game, and the mens game would also see growth in it's attendance with the improvement of the woman's game?

And when you say it needs a lot of change, you really mean money dont you?

[superfurryhibby]

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I thought we only had a few of the team as full time, with most of them being part time, which is why we tend to lose our best players quickly as other teams do offer full time, and higher wages

I'm happy to stand corrected on that, I thought we had full time players and coaching staff.