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[McD]

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Following on from the thread on the main forum about law changes folk would like to see in football, what's the one change you'd like to see introduced in rugby?
For me it's the laws around the "use it" call at rucks - with the purpose of speeding things up.
The ref to call "use it" as soon as the ball is visible and playable; once called, no-one else (from either side) can join the ruck; referee the 5-second use time strictly, or reduce it to 3-seconds if refs are going to continue to be lenient on the count.
Doing this would not only make rucks quicker, but also more competitive, with counter rucking becoming more of an opportunity to regain possession, or at least disrupt your opponents, rather than not committing players to a ruck, and just letting the opposition take their time to set themselves for a kick from the often double-extended base.

Interesting post, I like your change.


I think I would change scrum penalties to free kicks. It feels in certain situations that teams aren’t actually trying to restart the game, but just trying to get the ref to give a penalty, which can take minutes off the clock, and be boring to watch. The free kick still gives a team the opportunity to get things going again.

[Sergio sledge]

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Following on from the thread on the main forum about law changes folk would like to see in football, what's the one change you'd like to see introduced in rugby?
For me it's the laws around the "use it" call at rucks - with the purpose of speeding things up.
The ref to call "use it" as soon as the ball is visible and playable; once called, no-one else (from either side) can join the ruck; referee the 5-second use time strictly, or reduce it to 3-seconds if refs are going to continue to be lenient on the count.
Doing this would not only make rucks quicker, but also more competitive, with counter rucking becoming more of an opportunity to regain possession, or at least disrupt your opponents, rather than not committing players to a ruck, and just letting the opposition take their time to set themselves for a kick from the often double-extended base.

Yeah that's super frustrating. I'd go as far as to rule that you can't have more than 1 "layer" of players from either side in the ruck, so no binding onto a player in front of you from your own team.

I'm not a forward so I've no idea if this would work or not.

Also, get rid of the "dupont law" and make the kick chase team retreat until the kicker or someone who was behind the kicker is past them before they can engage the receiving team. This 5m or 5 steps stuff is silly and just means the kick chase team don't have to make any effort to retreat and gives too much of an advantage to the kicking team.

[Just_Jimmy]

Advantage. It goes on far too long

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[Greenbeard]

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Advantage. It goes on far too long

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It does, and very often the defending side gives away another penalty to stop the “free ball” attack. I’d make it an automatic yellow card for any penalty offence during the playing of advantage.

[Just_Jimmy]

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It does, and very often the defending side gives away another penalty to stop the “free ball” attack. I’d make it an automatic yellow card for any penalty offence during the playing of advantage.

I agree that's an issue, but I'm not sure more yellow cards is the answer tbh. I don't know what is correct for this.

Maybe, once you move the ball x yards it's over or x number of passes. As it is you have teams having endless time to score then pulled back for a penalty. Double advantage.

Maybe for the penalty within advantage move the penalty forward 10 yards or something.

Either way, you're right, both need looked at.

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[cabbageandribs1875]

flicked over to see the HT score between Glasgow and Cardiff, 13-0 Cardiff


FT 17-13 not a very good Glasgow line-out tonight

[cabbageandribs1875]

Sam Whitelock retiring in june, great career he's had and New Zealand's most capped player played in a few great all-black sides

[Sloop67]

The Crusaders beaten again this morning, they've been absolutely awful this season , the departure of Scott Robertson to the ABs jobs seems to have been a big loss

[cabbageandribs1875]

went to make a 10-min phone call with Edinburgh getting beat by scarlets 17-18 came back and it was 38-18 FT 43-18

Ospreys unfortunately got a great result @ Stormers winning 27-21

Glasgow 2nd top behind Leinster


Scottish women put another bad record right this season by winning for the first time in Italy for 25 years 17-10,along with winning in Wales for the first time in 20 years

England beat Ireland 88-10


Scotland 3rd two points ahead of Ireland and Italy, huge incentive to beat Ireland next week as 3rd joins England and France at the 2025 WC in England

unfortunately it's another away game, the two home games were against the top two :(

[Sylar]

Edinburgh just about staying in the hunt for a top 8 place here. Lacklustre at times against Zebre but comfortable in the end.

Tough one for Glasgow today as they start their SA tour. Hopefully they can hold on to top spot!

[Sylar]

Glasgow fight back well, but not enough as they lose to the Bulls. Leinster win too, cuts the gap to 1 point.

What about Gloucester though...beaten 90-0 by Northampton yesterday!

[cabbageandribs1875]

Edinburgh will most likely have to win one of the remaining two games to make top eight

H- Munster....doubt it
A- Benetton...Level on points with Edinburgh in 8th in the penultimate round


lack of Bonus points have been the problem for Edinburgh, lowest equal

[Sylar]

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Edinburgh will most likely have to win one of the remaining two games to make top eight

H- Munster....doubt it
A- Benetton...Level on points with Edinburgh in 8th in the penultimate round


lack of Bonus points have been the problem for Edinburgh, lowest equal

Yep - recent matches have been a bit better at getting tries over the line! Injuries haven't helped us this season, but a lot of missed opportunities.

I certainly don't expect much tonight but The Hive is sold out, Munster are missing O'Mahoney and Donoghue, so I'm hoping we surprise me! The atmosphere should be good at least!

[cabbageandribs1875]

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Yep - recent matches have been a bit better at getting tries over the line! Injuries haven't helped us this season, but a lot of missed opportunities.

I certainly don't expect much tonight but The Hive is sold out, Munster are missing O'Mahoney and Donoghue, so I'm hoping we surprise me! The atmosphere should be good at least!

i see Boffelli out for rest of season with that back injury needing an op

Mata will be a big loss,leaving for Bristol

[Sylar]

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i see Boffelli out for rest of season with that back injury needing an op

Mata will be a big loss,leaving for Bristol

Mata will be a big loss, but we've recruited quite well so far ahead of next season - Magnus Bradbury returning to take on Mata's role, for example.

Boffeli's not really played much at all since the World Cup to be honest. It's a real shame Harry Patterson has been out at the same time!

[cabbageandribs1875]

dammit dammit dammit forgot this game, turned over as soon as footy finished just to see the scoreline 26-29 :(

Munster go top

[Sylar]

That was a tough one to swallow last night. We played as well as we have all season, but a few small errors and an abysmal refereeing performance contributed to a narrow defeat - the Irish and Saffas really do play every foul trick in the book, and they do it well.

Hopefully Glasgow manage a win down in South Africa today to regain top spot!

[cabbageandribs1875]

Glasgow are all over the place here at Lions, 29-14 after an hour Lions down to 14 at the moment and two converted tries in as many minutes

doesn't help Edinburgh either


make that three converted tries in several minutes, awful from Glasgow 36-14 and they still have a player in the sin bin deary me


69' one back for Glasgow 36-21

74' 39-21


FT what a hammering for the Warriors 44-21


all on 49 points now

6th Edinburgh
7th Ulster...play Leinster tonight
8th Benetton....Lost 56-35 at 2nd placed Bulls
9th Lions

[Sylar]

I was hoping Ulster might have helped Glasgow, but seeing as Glasgow couldn't help themselves and Leinster winning keeps Ulster behind us, I'm hoping (yuck) for a Leinster win and no BPs for Ulster...

[cabbageandribs1875]

Ulster 23 Leinster 21, didn't see that one coming, helped with Leinster concentrating more on their final next week

Ulster up to 6th and four points ahead of Edinburgh

Ulster booked a top eight place

[cabbageandribs1875]

only saw the 2nd half of ET in the champions cup final but what a game apparently, wish i watched this instead of the SC final

anyway FT Leinster 22 Toulouse 31 with Toulouse red card in 1st half of ET, Leinster now lost the last three finals and four in the last seven

great for Blair Kinghorn kicking four penalties

[cabbageandribs1875]

Edinburgh have been Humpty in this game, knock-on after knock-on, error after error

oh boy three tries in 6 mins 31-6


QF

Munster v Ospreys
Bulls v Benetton
Leinster v Ulster
Glasgow v Stormers

SF

Munster/Ospreys v Glasgow/Stormers
Bulls/Benetton v Leinster/Ulster

[cabbageandribs1875]

Darn it ! i completely forgot the URC SF's today :( brilliant win for Glasgow away to defending champions Munster winning 17-10

and a very good win for Bulls v Leinster 25-20


Bulls v Glasgow final next Saturday, unfortunately in Pretoria

[BS44]

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Darn it ! i completely forgot the URC SF's today :( brilliant win for Glasgow away to defending champions Munster winning 17-10

and a very good win for Bulls v Leinster 25-20


Bulls v Glasgow final next Saturday, unfortunately in Pretoria

I'm in Limerick this weekend, but I couldn't give a sit about rugby so I've no idea how the locals are about yesterday's result

[cabbageandribs1875]

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I'm in Limerick this weekend, but I couldn't give a sit about rugby so I've no idea how the locals are about yesterday's result

enjoy yer break

[JimBHibees]

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Darn it ! i completely forgot the URC SF's today :( brilliant win for Glasgow away to defending champions Munster winning 17-10

and a very good win for Bulls v Leinster 25-20


Bulls v Glasgow final next Saturday, unfortunately in Pretoria

Some win for Glasgow that

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

52-17 victory for England v Japan earlier today.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

South Africa v Wales on S4C & iPlayer, 1400 kick off.

[Sloop67]

The Blues defeated the Chiefs 41-10 in a fairly one sided final of this years Supe Rugby competition

[Mcbizz1998]

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The Blues defeated the Chiefs 41-10 in a fairly one sided final of this years Supe Rugby competition

Cotter still in charge at the Blues? Bring him home!!!