SNP are lying b******s as well !

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He’s making a speech to the media at 13:15 so we’ll find out soon enough.

Isn't he down at Westminster for a meeting?

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Isn't he down at Westminster for a meeting?

No idea what he’s doing, it was just sky news said he was coming to speak to them live from Queen Anne’s Gate.

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No idea what he’s doing, it was just sky news said he was coming to speak to them live from Queen Anne’s Gate.

Which is half a mile from Westminster!

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OK, 10 minutes since he spoke to sky news in London. What did he say?

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OK, 10 minutes since he spoke to sky news in London. What did he say?

Not been on yet, he’s running late.

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Not been on yet, he’s running late.

He's not even running 😁


Asked whether he wants to be the next first minister at a Resolution Foundation event, Swinney said: “It’s a hypothetical question.”

He added that the job is a very “demanding role” and that “it takes a lot of thinking about”.

Speaking to Sky News earlier this morning, Swinney also said: “There’s a lot to happen today, and we’ll wait to hear what the FM’s got to say later on today.”

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He's not even running


Asked whether he wants to be the next first minister at a Resolution Foundation event, Swinney said: “It’s a hypothetical question.”

He added that the job is a very “demanding role” and that “it takes a lot of thinking about”.

Speaking to Sky News earlier this morning, Swinney also said: “There’s a lot to happen today, and we’ll wait to hear what the FM’s got to say later on today.”

Nobody said he was running but he was running late and has just done the live interview now.

I missed the start but sounds like he still needs to persuade his family that it’s the right thing to do before he commits to anything.

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He's not even running 😁


Asked whether he wants to be the next first minister at a Resolution Foundation event, Swinney said: “It’s a hypothetical question.”

He added that the job is a very “demanding role” and that “it takes a lot of thinking about”.

Speaking to Sky News earlier this morning, Swinney also said: “There’s a lot to happen today, and we’ll wait to hear what the FM’s got to say later on today.”

Sky news saying that swinney is considering it. He would steady the ship but I think he would stand down after the next Scottish election regardless of outcome.

I stand by what I said, he doesn't want it permanently.

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Nobody said he was running but he was running late and has just done the live interview now.

I missed the start but sounds like he still needs to persuade his family that it’s the right thing to do before he commits to anything.

Did you miss the smile?

The family is very much at the front of his thoughts. His wife has 2nd stage MS and one of his sons has mobility issues. Becoming first minister means a lot more time away from home. He is my MSP.

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I'm not sure it's fair to label the Scottish Tories as fascists. They have always been to the left of their Westminster colleagues, and they still are. I can't think of any Scottish Tories who would fit in with the ideology of the current UK Government. Fraser perhaps, but for me he's more of a wind-up merchant than anything else. Whether any of them are competent enough to work in Government is a different matter, though.....

I wasn't seeking to differentiate between the Scottish Tories and their WM counterparts. I was really just talking about the 2024 Tory party as a whole.

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Did you miss the smile?

The family is very much at the front of his thoughts. His wife has 2nd stage MS and one of his sons has mobility issues. Becoming first minister means a lot more time away from home. He is my MSP.

No, didn’t miss it

Just watched it back, I thought he was honest and spoke quite well, get the impression he’d like the job but knows deep down it’s not right for his family.

If I was him I’d very much put the family first and not go for it.

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Nothing says we are just waiting for Labour to take over in 2026 than appointing John Swinney. It would be like admitting we have nothing else to offer.
I don’t think he can win anyway.


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If Swinney is the answer then the wrong question is being asked. Has nothing been learned from the whole Yousaf debacle?

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Maybe only candidate greens will support

Greens have done enough damage for their opinion to count one iota. In an ideal world they would bomb out Harvey and get someone focused on the environment and SNP get someone focused on getting independence. I know that sounds fanciful nowadays but we can but dream

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Nothing says we are just waiting for Labour to take over in 2026 than appointing John Swinney. It would be like admitting we have nothing else to offer.
I don’t think he can win anyway.


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Yep, just an attempt to keep Forbes out. It'll just strengthen Labours position.

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If the greens want to return any seats in 2026 they will need to back whoever is the new leader and FM. They have gained seats mostly as the 2nd independence party and will co tinge to do so if they support the government. If they don't they will be consined to history. Alba won't get many votes either as they are toxic and all about Salmond rather than anything else. He was pushing the narrative that Regan was the most powerful MSP all weekend, while all the time it was him doing the press rounds himself. SNP 1 and 2 may be the best solution as it was before

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Yep, just an attempt to keep Forbes out. It'll just strengthen Labours position.

Douglas Ross talking up Swinney’s chances on the news there. Tells you all you need to know.


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If the greens want to return any seats in 2026 they will need to back whoever is the new leader and FM. They have gained seats mostly as the 2nd independence party and will co tinge to do so if they support the government. If they don't they will be consined to history. Alba won't get many votes either as they are toxic and all about Salmond rather than anything else. He was pushing the narrative that Regan was the most powerful MSP all weekend, while all the time it was him doing the press rounds himself. SNP 1 and 2 may be the best solution as it was before

SNP 1 and 2 is absolutely the best for SNP voters. It’s what worked best in 2011 and can do so again.


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Both Westminster and Hollyrood on three PM/FM’s in the one electoral term. Shambolic.

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Both Westminster and Hollyrood on three PM/FM’s in the one electoral term. Shambolic.

We don’t vote for Presidents in this country. I don’t see what is so hard to understand. Parties have been changing leader mid term my whole life in this country and still people seem to struggle with the idea in their head?
Sunak is just as legitimate a PM as Johnson(also came in mid term) was. All parties do it because that’s is how the system is designed to work.


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If the greens want to return any seats in 2026 they will need to back whoever is the new leader and FM. They have gained seats mostly as the 2nd independence party and will co tinge to do so if they support the government. If they don't they will be consined to history. Alba won't get many votes either as they are toxic and all about Salmond rather than anything else. He was pushing the narrative that Regan was the most powerful MSP all weekend, while all the time it was him doing the press rounds himself. SNP 1 and 2 may be the best solution as it was before

I just basically did what I was told and voted green second vote as I wanted independence candidates. It baffles me they couldn't get a competent SNP b team together. Why anyone would get Salmond to front a party after his bad press is beyond me.

My preference would be generic independence party but i think a labour for independence party would take votes from some old Comrades that have voted labour and always will

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If the greens want to return any seats in 2026 they will need to back whoever is the new leader and FM. They have gained seats mostly as the 2nd independence party and will co tinge to do so if they support the government. If they don't they will be consined to history. Alba won't get many votes either as they are toxic and all about Salmond rather than anything else. He was pushing the narrative that Regan was the most powerful MSP all weekend, while all the time it was him doing the press rounds himself. SNP 1 and 2 may be the best solution as it was before

Don’t discount the Greens doing a deal with Labour after the next Holyrood election. They’re careerist chancers.

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Nothing says we are just waiting for Labour to take over in 2026 than appointing John Swinney. It would be like admitting we have nothing else to offer.
I don’t think he can win anyway.


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Exactly . Flynn and Forbes etc maybe know they are onto a hiding so keeping their powder dry for a relaunch after the election.

In saying that, Flynn would probably be the favourite in that scenario so Forbes wants it she may have to bite the bullet and go for it now

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Exactly . Flynn and Forbes etc maybe know they are onto a hiding so keeping their powder dry for a relaunch after the election.

In saying that, Flynn would probably be the favourite in that scenario so Forbes wants it she may have to bite the bullet and go for it now

I think that’s about right. You don’t wait for these things.


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Flynn rules himself out and backs Swinney.


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We don’t vote for Presidents in this country. I don’t see what is so hard to understand. Parties have been changing leader mid term my whole life in this country and still people seem to struggle with the idea in their head?
Sunak is just as legitimate a PM as Johnson(also came in mid term) was. All parties do it because that’s is how the system is designed to work.


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Still means at a time where we have the cost of living crisis and numerous other issues putting stress upon the population, focus is taken from that and put upon the issues within the SNP.

Be honest, if this was Sunak standing down forcing another leadership selection (or even if Starmer was ousted), the SNP followers on here would be pointing to it as a shambles.

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Flynn rules himself out and backs Swinney.


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They could at least pretend to be putting the needs of the country first. Forbes is going to ruffle more than a few feathers if she decides not to play along with this coronation.

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Still means at a time where we have the cost of living crisis and numerous other issues putting stress upon the population, focus is taken from that and put upon the issues within the SNP.

Be honest, if this was Sunak standing down forcing another leadership selection (or even if Starmer was ousted), the SNP followers on here would be pointing to it as a shambles.

I think we are here because people in the SNP thought the deal with the greens was not in the interests of the people of Scotland.
People will soon have their chance to pass judgement on it all.


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They could at least pretend to be putting the needs of the country first. Forbes is going to ruffle more than a few feathers if she decides not to play along with this coronation.

Hope she stands. Swinney can probably keep the hot seat warm for Flynn but that’s not in the interests of everyone else. If Flynn wants it, he should go for it rather than try engineer this.


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If Forbes has any brains then she'll rule herself out asap and keep her powder dry for another day. If the big wigs are backing Swinney publicly then that is who they want and there seems little to be gained by going against that; particularly with a poor election showing (by recent standards) in the pipeline. A single candidate probably suits them SNP heirarchy as they can play the unity card.

She has the reason of a young family. Rule herself out at this time, pledge support to the new leader and take a frontline job if offered and prove herself, once again, to be competent and charismatic.

Swinney, should it be him, won't last long and that's the time to act. Losing out to him and/or pissing off the high head yins probably leaves her in the wilderness. I'd say the same of almost anyone with aspirations going forward. Anyone standing against Flynn in the medium term can use his backing/the coronation of Swinney against him. In the short term it feels like a lose lose.