SNP are lying b******s as well !

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I wonder if part of the problem is that the SNP have been so strong for so long that someone like Humza has forgotten that they work within a system designed for minority government. One which values cooperation, compromise and consensus. He alienated those in his own party who backed his leadership rivals and overlooked all of them for key jobs, dismissed someone who he may very well have to rely on to keep his job as 'no great loss' and he's now shattered any meaningful cooperation with the Greens in the short to medium term.

The lack of willingness to really work strategically with members of the wider yes movement post 2014 and the nonsensical insistence on the 'both votes SNP' mantra suggests some in the party working on strategy believed they could force a majority for the foreseeable one way or another. I'm not convinced being forced to govern as a minority again for the next 2 or 3 years will be any bad thing. It might even see independence become the raison d'etre for the SNP again as opposed to the current 'keep us in power'.

Both votes SNP was successful for them pre 2015. It only resulted in wasted voted when they started dominating at constituency level. The current polls suggest that both votes SNP may be the best strategy once again. It’s the way I will go next time.


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Reckon the Green gimps will side with Yousless, their salaries and SNP second vote are more valuable than their principles 🙄

Is there any chance you can grow up and post on this topic without the silly name calling? It's absolutely pathetic.

By all.means enjoy the chaos but you really drag the whole thing down.

[Berwickhibby]

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Is there any chance you can grow up and post on this topic without the silly name calling? It's absolutely pathetic.

By all.means enjoy the chaos but you really drag the whole thing down.

Nope 😀

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Nope 😀

Great, well.done.

Admins, you can add me as someone else who will avoid this board. And probably .net in general.

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Yousaf cancels today’s speech on the path towards Independence.
Waiting for Alba to tell him what it now is?

I can't recall how well supported Ash Regan was in the leadership vote, but it wasn't all that significant. It seems an absurdity that she might be calling the shots as a minority voice when the broader party didn't want her as a leadership contender. This might go to credibility of HY if he yields in any way.

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Is there any chance you can grow up and post on this topic without the silly name calling? It's absolutely pathetic.

By all.means enjoy the chaos but you really drag the whole thing down.

I agree. There are plenty of ways to express your disapproval of someone/something without childish name calling. Any time I see something like that it makes me value the opinion less. Most often when I see someone refer to the “clowncil”.

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I can't recall how well supported Ash Regan was in the leadership vote, but it wasn't all that significant. It seems an absurdity that she might be calling the shots as a minority voice when the broader party didn't want her as a leadership contender. This might go to credibility of HY if he yields in any way.

About 9% I think?
Yousaf is now holed below the waterline either way. Any concessions in any direction hurt him elsewhere. It’s going to need a fresh voice.


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I can't recall how well supported Ash Regan was in the leadership vote, but it wasn't all that significant. It seems an absurdity that she might be calling the shots as a minority voice when the broader party didn't want her as a leadership contender. This might go to credibility of HY if he yields in any way.

Almost as absurd as the Greens calling the shots for the past three years with their small share of the electoral vote.

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Almost as absurd as the Greens calling the shots for the past three years with their small share of the electoral vote.

Or the DUP calling the shots on Brexit.


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Or the DUP calling the shots on Brexit.


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Yeap. It’s what happens when you have weak Government.

[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/scott_wortley/status/1...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

Douglas Ross saying he will prevent an election. Smart move from the Tories.


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Great, well.done.

Admins, you can add me as someone else who will avoid this board. And probably .net in general.

I'm with you on this Dave and I'm sure we all agree healthy debate is good, but anyone who persists with silly, childish name calling should be stopped from doing so.

GGTTH

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Reckon the Green gimps will side with Yousless, their salaries and SNP second vote are more valuable than their principles 🙄

Is your sole purpose on here to act like a 6 year old? Quite sad really.

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Is your sole purpose on here to act like a 6 year old? Quite sad really.

It’s a football fans forum not a discussion in the parliamentary chamber… Check other topics, like slagging the Tories with insults (which also make me smile)

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https://x.com/ka****t/status/1783834...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

A little bit more focus on stuff like this and he might not be where he is now.


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https://x.com/ka****t/status/1783834...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

A little bit more focus on stuff like this and he might not be where he is now.


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It’s been deleted so didn’t see it

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What seems like most SNP/Independence supporters, im
Over the moon that the greens have been kicked out.

Also hoping that HY resigns and lets someone else come
In and refresh the SNP and scottish politics.

Humza is useless.

Its actually got to the point where I hate the SNP but I feel like I still need to vote for them due to independence and no other alternatives.

Although it’s just flashed up on my phone that he is refusing to resign.

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What seems like most SNP/Independence supporters, im
Over the moon that the greens have been kicked out.

Also hoping that HY resigns and lets someone else come
In and refresh the SNP and scottish politics.

Humza is useless.

Its actually got to the point where I hate the SNP but I feel like I still need to vote for them due to independence and no other alternatives.

Although it’s just flashed up on my phone that he is refusing to resign.

Just like saying he backed the Bute House agreement right up until he didn’t, it will be the same if he resigns. He won’t telegraph that he’s thinking of it. He might not even see it coming.
I think he will be gone very soon though. When people stop listening to you, then you are toast. And nobody is listening to him now.
Flynn just hinted he wouldn’t run but I’m almost certain he would. Everyone is playing cards close to their chest.


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It’s been deleted so didn’t see it

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Big announcement by First Minister Humza Yousaf as he faces no confidence motion next week - £80m funding over two years to increase number of affordable homes. Money would allow empty homes to be bought by organisations to reduce homelessness.

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Its actually got to the point where I hate the SNP ...

Why? What have they done to make you hate them?

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So Jackie Baillie says that Labour will support Douglas Ross' no confidence motion. That's nice. I hope all our Labour supporters on here take note of where their party's allegiances lie.

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Just like saying he backed the Bute House agreement right up until he didn’t, it will be the same if he resigns. He won’t telegraph that he’s thinking of it. He might not even see it coming.
I think he will be gone very soon though. When people stop listening to you, then you are toast. And nobody is listening to him now.
Flynn just hinted he wouldn’t run but I’m almost certain he would. Everyone is playing cards close to their chest.


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As much as this sticks in my craw…Flynn would make mince meat out of DRoss and Sarwar in most debates …

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As much as this sticks in my craw…Flynn would make mince meat out of DRoss and Sarwar in most debates …

As does Yousaf, but you refuse to hear it.

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Just like saying he backed the Bute House agreement right up until he didn’t, it will be the same if he resigns. He won’t telegraph that he’s thinking of it. He might not even see it coming.
I think he will be gone very soon though. When people stop listening to you, then you are toast. And nobody is listening to him now.
Flynn just hinted he wouldn’t run but I’m almost certain he would. Everyone is playing cards close to their chest.


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Flynn won’t have time to run given he would need a Holyrood seat. He will back Forbes.

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As does Yousaf, but you refuse to hear it.

No he doesn’t he is a broken record … over promoted for his abilities…. I have seen Sturgeon rip the opposition up regularly when she was First Minister, Seen Dugdale come out top on a few debates … Forbes is possibly the most talented young MSP in the chamber but seems to be ignored by her party. Had she won the leadership campaign, imho I doubt this chaos would be occurring.

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Flynn won’t have time to run given he would need a Holyrood seat. He will back Forbes.

I'm not convinced he'd even want to leave the comfort of Westminster for Holyrood.

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As much as this sticks in my craw…Flynn would make mince meat out of DRoss and Sarwar in most debates …

I'd back my much loved goldfish against Dross, the fish died a few years back but would still do well in a political debate.

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[CropleyWasGod]

Big announcement by First Minister Humza Yousaf as he faces no confidence motion next week - £80m funding over two years to increase number of affordable homes. Money would allow empty homes to be bought by organisations to reduce homelessness.

If that's true, it sums up why my inner cynic hates politicians.

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Big announcement by First Minister Humza Yousaf as he faces no confidence motion next week - £80m funding over two years to increase number of affordable homes. Money would allow empty homes to be bought by organisations to reduce homelessness.

If that's true, it sums up why my inner cynic hates politicians.

Embarrassingly transparent on every possible level.

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Big announcement by First Minister Humza Yousaf as he faces no confidence motion next week - £80m funding over two years to increase number of affordable homes. Money would allow empty homes to be bought by organisations to reduce homelessness.

If that's true, it sums up why my inner cynic hates politicians.

As a fellow cynic…. Amazing timing for this announcement