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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    It's almost as if real people think there's more to life than the precise level of tax they pay. Who knew?
    Maybe something Yousaf should have thought about before taking the off the cuff decision to freeze council tax after a by election drubbing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    Maybe something Yousaf should have thought about before taking the off the cuff decision to freeze council tax after a by election drubbing.
    Interesting. I assume you have evidence of this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    Maybe something Yousaf should have thought about before taking the off the cuff decision to freeze council tax after a by election drubbing.
    Madness, whether off or on the cuff.

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    https://www.scottishfinancialnews.co...-than-it-loses

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    What if the majority of the people coming to Scotland are to replace working Scottish people so there’s not actually any more people paying tax because the Scottish people have been made redundant?

    We’re going through this at work just now, around 75% of my colleagues have been made redundant and replaced with people from other countries on lower salaries, one of them even complained that those unlucky enough to get sent to Scotland instead of England should get a bigger pay rise to compensate for the higher tax here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibee View Post
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    What if the majority of the people coming to Scotland are to replace working Scottish people so there’s not actually any more people paying tax because the Scottish people have been made redundant?

    We’re going through this at work just now, around 75% of my colleagues have been made redundant and replaced with people from other countries on lower salaries, one of them even complained that those unlucky enough to get sent to Scotland instead of England should get a bigger pay rise to compensate for the higher tax here!
    This is people moving from other parts of the UK?


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    Quote Originally Posted by hibee View Post
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    What if the majority of the people coming to Scotland are to replace working Scottish people so there’s not actually any more people paying tax because the Scottish people have been made redundant?

    We’re going through this at work just now, around 75% of my colleagues have been made redundant and replaced with people from other countries on lower salaries, one of them even complained that those unlucky enough to get sent to Scotland instead of England should get a bigger pay rise to compensate for the higher tax here!
    Sounds like an idiot. Or a Tory



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    This is people moving from other parts of the UK?


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    I read that hours ago and forgot about that bit by the time I replied. They don’t always come directly from their home country, many do move up from England but not that many!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callum_62 View Post
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    Sounds like an idiot. Or a Tory



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    Probably both.

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    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/p...binet-32665598




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    Bute house deal is done. Happy days.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Bute house deal is done. Happy days.


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    Most will indeed be relieved at that, for one reason or another, I’d suggest.

    Another brilliant reading of the room by Humza though.

    Just two short days ago:

    SNP members do not “want” or “need” a vote on whether to continue the Bute House Agreement with the Scottish Greens, First Minister Humza Yousaf has said.

    Yousaf said the SNP rank-and-file had “already had a vote” on the deal and that he had won the leadership election last year having pledged to maintain it.

    He added: “I don’t think a vote is what SNP members necessarily want at this time, or indeed need at this time.

    “What we have to get on with is governing in the best interests of the people of Scotland and I’ve thoroughly not just enjoyed but, I think, achieved a lot with our Green colleagues.

    “I hope that cooperation agreement will continue and I hope that Green members will also see the benefit of that cooperation.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Bute house deal is done. Happy days.


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    So now the SNP have scrapped the Greens, scrapped their green emission targets perhaps some common senses might prevail and they scrap their draconian enforcement of ULEZ and allow businesses to purchase day tickets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibee View Post
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    They don’t always come directly from their home country, many do move up from England but not that many!
    "They"? Who are we talking about here? Who is "they"?

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    Well done Humza.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berwickhibby View Post
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    So now the SNP have scrapped the Greens, scrapped their green emission targets perhaps some common senses might prevail and they scrap their draconian enforcement of ULEZ and allow businesses to purchase day tickets.
    Isn’t that Edinburgh Labour/Tory council?


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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveHFC View Post
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    Well done Humza.
    Sounds like Flynn may have pushed the issue? I admire his ruthlessness if so. I think he’ll be leader very soon.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Berwickhibby View Post
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    So now the SNP have scrapped the Greens, scrapped their green emission targets perhaps some common senses might prevail and they scrap their draconian enforcement of ULEZ and allow businesses to purchase day tickets.
    The emissions targets were Labour targets brought by an amendment on the original bill.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Isn’t that Edinburgh Labour/Tory council?
    Minor detail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    The emissions targets were Labour targets brought by an amendment on the original bill.


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    SNP are in power they can change it…bad legislation is bad legislation regardless which party proposes it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Isn’t that Edinburgh Labour/Tory council?


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    Councils are physically running the schemes but the authority and legislation came from Scottish Parliament

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berwickhibby View Post
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    Councils are physically running the schemes but the authority and legislation came from Scottish Parliament
    You said yourself that Edinburgh is running it differently from elsewhere?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    You said yourself that Edinburgh is running it differently from elsewhere?


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    No Scotland is running it differently from the rest of the UK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Bute house deal is done. Happy days.


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    Days after saying there was no need to revisit the Bute house agreement and after a day of pressure from senior SNP members Yousaf calls an ‘emergency’ cabinet meeting to do what he should have done a year ago. Has there ever been a weaker leader of any party? Forbes must be setting off party poppers right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    Days after saying there was no need to revisit the Bute house agreement and after a day of pressure from senior SNP members Yousaf calls an ‘emergency’ cabinet meeting to do what he should have done a year ago. Has there ever been a weaker leader of any party? Forbes must be setting off party poppers right now.
    While I agree there is internal pressure, would you expect any leader to cast doubt on an agreement until the very moment he ended it?


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    While I agree there is internal pressure, would you expect any leader to cast doubt on an agreement until the very moment he ended it?
    Of course. This is the SNP we're talking about. Normal rules dont apply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    Days after saying there was no need to revisit the Bute house agreement and after a day of pressure from senior SNP members Yousaf calls an ‘emergency’ cabinet meeting to do what he should have done a year ago. Has there ever been a weaker leader of any party? Forbes must be setting off party poppers right now.
    Sunak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    While I agree there is internal pressure, would you expect any leader to cast doubt on an agreement until the very moment he ended it?


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    I wouldn’t expect them to extol the benefits of the partnership a couple of days before binning it. Though having an emergency cabinet meeting suggests he may have just succumbed to pressure over the course of yesterday.
    I think he’s done the right thing finally for his party, just twelve months too late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Sunak.
    Possibly. It would be close though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Sunak.
    Truss?
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    Truss?
    She wasn’t weak, she was demented.
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