(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump

[Bristolhibby]

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In the UK people voted for a party which chose Liz Truss to be Prime Minister. Liz Truss. It's not just America.

TBF 30k “swivel eyed loons” that are the Tory party membership picked her. Nothing to do with the public.

But they also voted BREXIT and Johnson so what do I know?

J

[MKHIBEE]

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TBF 30k “swivel eyed loons” that are the Tory party membership picked her. Nothing to do with the public.

But they also voted BREXIT and Johnson so what do I know?

J

You don’t get a Tory Prime Minister unless the public vote in a Tory Govenment. Everything to do with the public.

[Hibbyradge]

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You don’t get a Tory Prime Minister unless the public vote in a Tory Govenment. Everything to do with the public.

The public didn't vote for Truss.

Or Sunak.

[Bristolhibby]

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You don’t get a Tory Prime Minister unless the public vote in a Tory Govenment. Everything to do with the public.

I know, but specifically the last two Tory Prime ministers. It’s been a small cadre of Tory party members that have anointed them. I’d make a claim that they perhaps aren’t the best judges of who should be Prime Minister.

J

[lapsedhibee]

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I know, but specifically the last two Tory Prime ministers. It’s been a small cadre of Tory party members that have anointed them. I’d make a claim that they perhaps aren’t the best judges of who should be Prime Minister.

J

Members didn't vote in Sunak. That was the Parliamentary Tory party, which the public voted in.

[Bristolhibby]

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Members didn't vote in Sunak. That was the Parliamentary Tory party, which the public voted in.

No, members downselect and have a runoff until there’s two standing. It then goes out to the Tory Party members.

The swivel eyed loons then choose who from that two is their favourite.

We’ve had so many of these recently I’m surprised you are not au fait with the process.

The public most definitely have not chosen Truss or Sunak.

They chose Johnson but the Parliamentary Party killed him off.

J

[Kato]

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We’ve had so many of these recently I’m surprised you are not au fait with the process.

The coverage of those events had a tone as though they were choosing a song for Eurovision. Little chat of the state of the nation, all about: which candidate would acceptable to the party, how that candidate appeals to this demographic and how another "goes down well" with another. Absolutely living in a tiny Londoncentric media bubble, none of whom are affected by that parties' disastrous tenure.

They chose Johnson but the Parliamentary Party killed him off.

Well, it was the straw that broke the camels back. For about 5 to 6 years his followers had all regurgitated his lies and backed him, until they couldn't do it any longer. He should never have been anywhere near parliamentary politics anyway.



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[lapsedhibee]

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No, members downselect and have a runoff until there’s two standing. It then goes out to the Tory Party members.

The swivel eyed loons then choose who from that two is their favourite.

We’ve had so many of these recently I’m surprised you are not au fait with the process.

The public most definitely have not chosen Truss or Sunak.

They chose Johnson but the Parliamentary Party killed him off.

J

Nope. What you describe happened with Truss. But with Sunak, the Parliamentary Party didn't trust the membership to choose their preferred candidate (Sunak). So they changed the rules for eligibility and no choice was ever presented to the swivel eyed loons outside Westminster.

How did the Conservatives elect a new leader?
Nominations

Under the rules of the latest leadership contest, candidates needed to have the support of at least 100 Conservative MPs (not including themselves).

Rishi Sunak was the only one to reach that level and so became the party leader.

As there are currently 357 Tory MPs, a maximum of three candidates could have met the threshold.

The other contenders - Boris Johnson and Penny Mordaunt - both withdrew from the process.

[Bristolhibby]

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Nope. What you describe happened with Truss. But with Sunak, the Parliamentary Party didn't trust the membership to choose their preferred candidate (Sunak). So they changed the rules for eligibility and no choice was ever presented to the swivel eyed loons outside Westminster.

How did the Conservatives elect a new leader?
Nominations

Under the rules of the latest leadership contest, candidates needed to have the support of at least 100 Conservative MPs (not including themselves).

Rishi Sunak was the only one to reach that level and so became the party leader.

As there are currently 357 Tory MPs, a maximum of three candidates could have met the threshold.

The other contenders - Boris Johnson and Penny Mordaunt - both withdrew from the process.

Right enough. Forgot about that. Even worse. The nutters didn’t even get a choice with Dishy Rishi.

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Right enough. Forgot about that. Even worse. The nutters didn’t even get a choice with Dishy Rishi.

J

Was there any vote when Gordon Brown took over from Blair.

That long ago , I can’t remember

[J-C]

Came on to see what news about Trump and I see its all about Tories and who voted in their leader. I thought we already had a Tory thread.

[Ozyhibby]

Totally normal.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/fladems/status/1774893...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

Great news for Biden in Florida.


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[DaveF]

Trump pays his 175m bond in the NY trial.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68709895

[silverhibee]

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Trump pays his 175m bond in the NY trial.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68709895

Wonder who subbed him that amount..

[lapsedhibee]

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Wonder who subbed him that amount..

The Los Angeles-based company Knight Insurance Group.

[Stevie Reid]

November truly is a lose/lose situation. Either Trump wins legitimately and does exactly what he says he’ll do - and the country is ****ed; or he loses, and there is so much civil unrest from his cult members, that the country is ****ed.

He’s broken it beyond any kind of repair.

https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/...704472772?s=20

[JimBHibees]

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November truly is a lose/lose situation. Either Trump wins legitimately and does exactly what he says he’ll do - and the country is ****ed; or he loses, and there is so much civil unrest from his cult members, that the country is ****ed.

He’s broken it beyond any kind of repair.

https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/...704472772?s=20

Incredible it has got to this. Shameful lack of leadership over so many years

[Ozyhibby]

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November truly is a lose/lose situation. Either Trump wins legitimately and does exactly what he says he’ll do - and the country is ****ed; or he loses, and there is so much civil unrest from his cult members, that the country is ****ed.

He’s broken it beyond any kind of repair.

https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/...704472772?s=20

Trump will lose heavily in November. There may be a bit of unrest but the authorities will be ready to deal with it.
The US will still be a mess but stronger for having seen off Trump.


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[Stevie Reid]

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Trump will lose heavily in November. There may be a bit of unrest but the authorities will be ready to deal with it.
The US will still be a mess but stronger for having seen off Trump.


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I sincerely hope you’re right, but I have serious concerns. Biden will win the popular vote by millions, but it’s what matters in a handful of states that matters.

Trump was speaking in Mississippi yesterday, spouting his usual lies and bile. He was flanked on either side by various different law enforcement officers, standing with him, not as security.

His actions caused the death of police officers at the capitol, and yet these idiots continue to back him. I hope your confidence is proven correct, but I think that country is completely broken.

[Stevie Reid]

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Incredible it has got to this. Shameful lack of leadership over so many years

Totally agree, Jim.

[overdrive]

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I sincerely hope you’re right, but I have serious concerns. Biden will win the popular vote by millions, but it’s what matters in a handful of states that matters.

Trump was speaking in Mississippi yesterday, spouting his usual lies and bile. He was flanked on either side by various different law enforcement officers, standing with him, not as security.

His actions caused the death of police officers at the capitol, and yet these idiots continue to back him. I hope your confidence is proven correct, but I think that country is completely broken.

Yeah, I'm not convinced he'll lose either.

[Hibbyradge]

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Trump will lose heavily in November. There may be a bit of unrest but the authorities will be ready to deal with it.
The US will still be a mess but stronger for having seen off Trump.


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I sincerely hope you're correct, but what makes you think that?

The polls have them neck and neck.

[Ozyhibby]

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I sincerely hope you're correct, but what makes you think that?

The polls have them neck and neck.

It’s still very early for the polls to count for much. I think when it comes to the crunch Americans will vote for stability. No sitting President has ever lost with an economy performing as well as the US is just now.
The Biden campaign is better funded and organised and that will count for a lot as we move out of the summer. The Trump campaign is skint and he is using what he has for his legal bills.
In the end I think Biden wins handsomely.


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Wonder who subbed him that amount..

Putin, probably.

[Kato]

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Putin, probably.

It's a company similar to Wonga.

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It's a company similar to Wonga.

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Bizarre that trump has to borrow money from shysters like that.

[DaveF]

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Bizarre that trump has to borrow money from shysters like that.

Even more weird is that they gave him the money. It's not like they will ever see that again.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Bizarre that trump has to borrow money from shysters like that.

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Even more weird is that they gave him the money. It's not like they will ever see that again.

He's not borrowing any money from them.

They are putting up a bond, which doesn't need any payment by anyone at the moment. It becomes payable if, for example, he defaults on any of the Court conditions. The bond is secured againt " a combination of cash and investment-grade bonds"

If he loses his appeal, it (and the rest) will be payable by DT. If he then skips the country, they will have to pay the 175m, and will recover it through their security.

[Oscar T Grouch]

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He's not borrowing any money from them.

They are putting up a bond, which doesn't need any payment by anyone at the moment. It becomes payable if, for example, he defaults on any of the Court conditions. The bond is secured againt " a combination of cash and investment-grade bonds"

If he loses his appeal, it (and the rest) will be payable by DT. If he then skips the country, they will have to pay the 175m, and will recover it through their security.

He will need to pay a fee for their service, a normal bond fee is around 10%, which given the companies owner's background of sub prime lending and charging the highest interest rates allowed in each state, I would say is a bargain!

Just seen that NY Court has rejected the bond due to insufficient paperwork from the bond supplier, they have to resubmitted with more background on their finances. The person behind the company is a multibillionaire so I can't imagine this will be an issue but the bond remains un-posted.