Depression and anxiety

[CropleyWasGod]

Not new knowledge, but it's worth reinforcing.:-

https://news.sky.com/story/exercise-...finds-13071944

Particularly pleased to see yoga in there.

[Pagan Hibernia]

Spring equinox today, the lovely time of year when light takes over from darkness. A good time to check in. How are we all doing?

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Spring equinox today, the lovely time of year when light takes over from darkness. A good time to check in. How are we all doing?

Doing really well mate thanks, Im still seeing my CPN in Leith who has been fantastic, listening, chatting and mapping out coping strategies etc. I cant praise iThrive enough, drop in, no appointment needed and they will chat to you there and then and will follow up with an allocated member of a Mental Health team

They have specialists that can support everyones social issues that can affect mental health, from Depression and anxiety, stress, alcohol issues, coping with bereavement, gambling etc, any issues that have impacted or will impact your mental health

Hope you are well 👍

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Doing really well mate thanks, Im still seeing my CPN in Leith who has been fantastic, listening, chatting and mapping out coping strategies etc. I cant praise iThrive enough, drop in, no appointment needed and they will chat to you there and then and will follow up with an allocated member of a Mental Health team

They have specialists that can support everyones social issues that can affect mental health, from Depression and anxiety, stress, alcohol issues, coping with bereavement, gambling etc, any issues that have impacted or will impact your mental health

Hope you are well 👍

Great to hear buddy! 👍

[andrew70]

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Doing really well mate thanks, Im still seeing my CPN in Leith who has been fantastic, listening, chatting and mapping out coping strategies etc. I cant praise iThrive enough, drop in, no appointment needed and they will chat to you there and then and will follow up with an allocated member of a Mental Health team

They have specialists that can support everyones social issues that can affect mental health, from Depression and anxiety, stress, alcohol issues, coping with bereavement, gambling etc, any issues that have impacted or will impact your mental health

Hope you are well 👍

I’ve just got my new psych at Inchkeith House on Leith Walk and he suggested Thrive to do decider skills after I’ve done my pain management group this summer.

Is this something you’ve done?

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I’ve just got my new psych at Inchkeith House on Leith Walk and he suggested Thrive to do decider skills after I’ve done my pain management group this summer.

Is this something you’ve done?

I went to iThrive for an assessment first Andrew and it takes around 30 to 45 mins, from there they determine your need/s and refer you to the appropriate CPN, Ive had 3 sessions at Inchkeith House and have a 4th on Monday

My CPN is brilliant and my our focus is more on triggers and management, things that triggered my depression and anxiety and we are working through plans, its been brilliant so far and I cant praise them highly enough

Hope you are doing well mate 👍

[andrew70]

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I went to iThrive for an assessment first Andrew and it takes around 30 to 45 mins, from there they determine your need/s and refer you to the appropriate CPN, Ive had 3 sessions at Inchkeith House and have a 4th on Monday

My CPN is brilliant and my our focus is more on triggers and management, things that triggered my depression and anxiety and we are working through plans, its been brilliant so far and I cant praise them highly enough

Hope you are doing well mate 👍

Glad that all seems to be working for you.

I’ve struggled for 21 years with depression and anxiety and I’ve been diagnosed lately with Borderline Personality Disorder and also Fibromyalgia so dealing with a lot just now.

So looking at all options.

I will hopefully feel better after I go through the pain management group therapy but if not I’ll approach thrive.

Cheers.

[Hiber-nation]

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Glad that all seems to be working for you.

I’ve struggled for 21 years with depression and anxiety and I’ve been diagnosed lately with Borderline Personality Disorder and also Fibromyalgia so dealing with a lot just now.

So looking at all options.

I will hopefully feel better after I go through the pain management group therapy but if not I’ll approach thrive.

Cheers.

Don't know if you are aware of a charity called Pain Concern who I used to volunteer for. Plenty of helpful info on their website.

https://painconcern.org.uk/

[andrew70]

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Don't know if you are aware of a charity called Pain Concern who I used to volunteer for. Plenty of helpful info on their website.

https://painconcern.org.uk/

Thank you, i’ll have a look.

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Glad that all seems to be working for you.

I’ve struggled for 21 years with depression and anxiety and I’ve been diagnosed lately with Borderline Personality Disorder and also Fibromyalgia so dealing with a lot just now.


So looking at all options.

I will hopefully feel better after I go through the pain management group therapy but if not I’ll approach thrive.

Cheers.

Sorry to hear you are finding things difficult mate, hopefully the pain management sessions are helpful. I would suggest pop down to iThrive for an initial chat about your mental health, they have really good and experienced people out there who could support you

Thrive has a drop in service which will run between 10am and 4pm every Wednesday and Thursday at Norton Park just behind hibs West stand


Take care mate 👍

[Pedantic_Hibee]

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Glad that all seems to be working for you.

I’ve struggled for 21 years with depression and anxiety and I’ve been diagnosed lately with Borderline Personality Disorder and also Fibromyalgia so dealing with a lot just now.

So looking at all options.

I will hopefully feel better after I go through the pain management group therapy but if not I’ll approach thrive.

Cheers.

Hi Andrew, not sure if you’re into reading/audiobooks but I recently listened to Overcoming Unwanted Intrusive Thoughts by Sally M Winston which is a bit of a game-changer. I could be wrong, and forgive me if so, but with your depression and anxiety I suspect you may have spent a lifetime talking badly to yourself, telling yourself you are worthless and imagining worst case scenarios which then creates a horrible thought process? This book goes a long way to helping the reader understand why they do it and also how to combat it (inner voices).

I suffered badly from intrusive thoughts and would spend days/weeks ruminating over them and arguing back against these thoughts which simply perpetuated the pain. It was exhausting, debilitating and rendered life to be unenjoyable, I literally didn’t find joy in anything despite being front, right and centre of occasions that should have been full of happiness. This book completely changed the way I think.

I may be miles off the mark and again, apologies if so, but it would be remiss of me not to suggest it in case it helped. All the best to you 🤝

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Hi Andrew, not sure if you’re into reading/audiobooks but I recently listened to Overcoming Unwanted Intrusive Thoughts by Sally M Winston which is a bit of a game-changer. I could be wrong, and forgive me if so, but with your depression and anxiety I suspect you may have spent a lifetime talking badly to yourself, telling yourself you are worthless and imagining worst case scenarios which then creates a horrible thought process? This book goes a long way to helping the reader understand why they do it and also how to combat it (inner voices).

I suffered badly from intrusive thoughts and would spend days/weeks ruminating over them and arguing back against these thoughts which simply perpetuated the pain. It was exhausting, debilitating and rendered life to be unenjoyable, I literally didn’t find joy in anything despite being front, right and centre of occasions that should have been full of happiness. This book completely changed the way I think.

I may be miles off the mark and again, apologies if so, but it would be remiss of me not to suggest it in case it helped. All the best to you 🤝

Thanks PH.

I’ve done all of that. Will look into this.

Thank you again.

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Thanks PH.

I’ve done all of that. Will look into this.

Thank you again.

No problem, Sir. You’ve got this 💪🏼

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Posting this from my wife’s hospital bedside, only just woken up from a two hour ish nap, the only sleep I’ve been able to get all night/day. I’m scared, I don’t know what to do and I don’t really know why I’m posting this here I suppose, I think I just need somewhere to be able to admit how terrified I am. Hope everyone is doing well, take care guys.


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Posting this from my wife’s hospital bedside, only just woken up from a two hour ish nap, the only sleep I’ve been able to get all night/day. I’m scared, I don’t know what to do and I don’t really know why I’m posting this here I suppose, I think I just need somewhere to be able to admit how terrified I am. Hope everyone is doing well, take care guys.


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What’s happened? What is it that’s terrifying you?

[Smartie]

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Posting this from my wife’s hospital bedside, only just woken up from a two hour ish nap, the only sleep I’ve been able to get all night/day. I’m scared, I don’t know what to do and I don’t really know why I’m posting this here I suppose, I think I just need somewhere to be able to admit how terrified I am. Hope everyone is doing well, take care guys.


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Might it be worth speaking to one of the nurses helping with your wife’s care about your own situation?

Having an ill relative can be horrifically traumatic for someone and can either initiate or reactivating a previous mental illness.

Nurses can be great not just at looking after your wife but for pointing you in the right direction too.

Whilst I’m sure you’ll get good advice here, certainly well intentioned advice, there’s nothing quite like professional advice and I believe it will be available for you, right where you are.

You just have to be able to hold your hands up, admit you’re struggling and approach someone - which isn’t always easy.

I hope your wife gets better soon and I hope you also get better soon.

All the best.

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Posting this from my wife’s hospital bedside, only just woken up from a two hour ish nap, the only sleep I’ve been able to get all night/day. I’m scared, I don’t know what to do and I don’t really know why I’m posting this here I suppose, I think I just need somewhere to be able to admit how terrified I am. Hope everyone is doing well, take care guys.


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I don't have useful advice for you, but attending a sick loved one is scary, and the way you're feeling is understandable. Wishing all the best to both of you, and keeping you in my thoughts

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

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What’s happened? What is it that’s terrifying you?

Late last night she suffered a vascular haemorrhage in her neck and had to be rushed in via ambulance. They think they’ve got it under control but they’re not sure what’s caused it. She’s being kept in so she’s in the best place but it’s very much daunting not being able to help because you don’t actually know what’s wrong.


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Posting this from my wife’s hospital bedside, only just woken up from a two hour ish nap, the only sleep I’ve been able to get all night/day. I’m scared, I don’t know what to do and I don’t really know why I’m posting this here I suppose, I think I just need somewhere to be able to admit how terrified I am. Hope everyone is doing well, take care guys.


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It can be incredibly tough taking care of and being there for a loved one, not to mention terrifying and worrying.


Try to make sure you’re taking care of yourself too, even though I know how hard that can be. Whether it’s some sleep, eating, giving yourself some headspace to breath, or anything you need. Your wife will need you as fit and healthy as you can be, and won’t want you torturing yourself or making yourself ill.


As has already been said, have a chat with the staff, they will give you the right steer.


Hope things will begin to look up for you and your wife mate

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Late last night she suffered a vascular haemorrhage in her neck and had to be rushed in via ambulance. They think they’ve got it under control but they’re not sure what’s caused it. She’s being kept in so she’s in the best place but it’s very much daunting not being able to help because you don’t actually know what’s wrong.


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First of all, I’m sorry to hear that mate and I hope everything turns out ok. Secondly, to allay your fears a little, both you and your wife are in the best place you can be at this very moment. It’s daunting not knowing what’s wrong, what’s caused it and of course, what’s next, but you’re there by her beside and I’m sure right now there’s nowhere else you’d rather be than with her and holding her hand.

If you’re feeling helpless or hopeless right now, my advice, as wan*y as it sounds, is to write down your feelings. I’ve got an app on my iphone called Morning Pages (completely free). I write in it every day without fail, sometimes just a sentence, sometimes a huge essay. But I write down what I’m doing that day, what I have done, what I’m going to do and how I’m feeling. And it’s amazing how much you can unravel the confusion in your head by simply writing whatever is in your head at that moment. I manually timestamp my entries as sometimes I’ll write multiple times in one day (usually if I’m “reporting back” to confirm I’ve achieved what I set out to do and how it’s made me feel accomplished)

It might be for you, it might not be for you, but if anything it will pass the time and pre-occupy you. Things like this can put everything into perspective, it certainly makes a mockery of all the small and insignificant things we ruminate over and worry about regularly.

Wishing you all the very best, good Sir.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

Thank you to everyone for their kind words and well wishes, I really do appreciate it. I’ve just gotten over the door and as much as it’s difficult to leave her at the hospital on her own, I think it’s helpful that I have cats to tend to as well! They know somethings not right with me and in a way that does bring a bit of comfort, I don’t feel quite so alone if that makes any sense? I know there are a lot of pet owners on here so I’m sure that’ll resonate with some. Just going to get a shower and head to my bed, thanks again everyone. Cheers and good health to you all.

Edit: I’m also acutely aware that this is a bit of a muddle of a post, I’m not thinking overly clearly at the moment so apologies if it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.


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Thank you to everyone for their kind words and well wishes, I really do appreciate it. I’ve just gotten over the door and as much as it’s difficult to leave her at the hospital on her own, I think it’s helpful that I have cats to tend to as well! They know somethings not right with me and in a way that does bring a bit of comfort, I don’t feel quite so alone if that makes any sense? I know there are a lot of pet owners on here so I’m sure that’ll resonate with some. Just going to get a shower and head to my bed, thanks again everyone. Cheers and good health to you all.

Edit: I’m also acutely aware that this is a bit of a muddle of a post, I’m not thinking overly clearly at the moment so apologies if it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.


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Stick in mate and hopefully a quick recovery for your Wife. Its good to talk and share whether you think it makes sense or not, we have all done it but the important thing is you reached out and shared your emotions, way better than bottling it all up

Stay strong mate, we are all here for you 👍

[McD]

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Thank you to everyone for their kind words and well wishes, I really do appreciate it. I’ve just gotten over the door and as much as it’s difficult to leave her at the hospital on her own, I think it’s helpful that I have cats to tend to as well! They know somethings not right with me and in a way that does bring a bit of comfort, I don’t feel quite so alone if that makes any sense? I know there are a lot of pet owners on here so I’m sure that’ll resonate with some. Just going to get a shower and head to my bed, thanks again everyone. Cheers and good health to you all.

Edit: I’m also acutely aware that this is a bit of a muddle of a post, I’m not thinking overly clearly at the moment so apologies if it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.


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Please, don’t apologise mate. At the best of times, you’d have no need to apologise for sharing your feeling here, especially on this thread, and absolutely not when you’re dealing with what you’re going through.


We’re all here for you, and wishing the best for you and your wife. I and I’m sure many others have experienced similar circumstances, try to stay positive, give yourself some care as well as pouring your efforts and emotions into her care

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Anyone else have these problems? My old man is from the old brigade who thinks pull yourself together is the answer. Never used to be like this and time in the army hasn't helped. However, I'm not afraid to admit things and feel no stigma in being affected by this.

Just wondering if other people here have had problems associated with these issues? I personally can get low and worry about things that many people wouldn't even give much a thought about! I'm on anti depressants but don't want to be on them forever. Has there been other things that people find useful?

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Pull yourself together would be good advice if it came with a manual on how to pull yourself together.

After Covid Lockdown I had to quickly come up with something to get myself back to work and back in operation and back to running my business. As I work with the public I need to act in a manner that the public trust me and have faith in me. But I had got myself in a rut, lost my confidence and had little time to find the solution, so as a matter of survival I quickly came up with this in order to instantly get myself back up again and present myself in front of my customers as someone that can definitely be trusted to carry out jobs. This is what I myself came up with quickly.

I think a good way of pulling yourself together is to remember, or realise, that our depression and anxiety is caused by lack of thought, to much thought, or worrying thoughts. The past does not matter, and it does not matter if you have been suffering this for 1 day, or 10 years, the moment we realise or remember that we choose what we think, believe, and how we feel, we can instantly jump up full of confidence in no time and get on with our lives and create our own destiny.

The instant you get pulled back down again by a negative thought, like people will think that my sudden new belief in myself is schizophrenia, or grandios delusion, then simply choose a new thought and go with it. It is hard to hold two thoughts at once. So it is hard to hold paranoid thoughts whilst going with friendly thoughts. Therefore even a psychosis can be broken in a second simply by changing to a better thought process. It may be difficult and forced at first, but keep it up and it will not take long at-all before you are happy and thinking fast and creating thoughts that are helpful and productive and quickly ditching thoughts that are unhelpful and destructive becomes automatic to you and done without thinking. And before you even know it you are out of anxiety and depression and extremely happy and confident.

Perhaps in a few weeks time you will encounter a situation that causes butterflies or that sinking feeling, but have no fear, remember you can jump back up in a second just by remembering that you choose what you believe, think, and how you feel, so simply and quickly think and believe something else.

Once you have practiced this and had several of the best conversations you have ever had in your life and noticed how your life has improved in no time at-all, this should be all the proof you need to know that your new belief that we can choose our thoughts, feelings and beliefs at will, is not schizophrenia. and even if it is, if it has got you out of anxiety and depression and improved your social life, who cares really if it is!

At least, this thought process worked for me when I had to suddenly get back to business and present myself as a quick thinking fearless and intelligent professional, at the same time as suffering cobwebs in the brain, which included stuck thoughts, confidence crisis, fear and anxiety.

If I remember right I quickly worked out that to believe I have courage was the first thought that initially filled me with strength in an instant. And from there I quickly worked out that now I have the courage, I can now use that to have the courage to be everything I need to be or want to be to get through my first day back. The courage to be intelligent. Professional et cetera.

Maybe it would work for others.

[CropleyWasGod]

Does anyone have any experience of, or knowledge about, the Flow headsets that I'm seeing a lot of on social media these days?

I know very little about them, let alone understand the technology, but it feels a bit like Electro-Convulsive Therapy in a new outfit.

[Jones28]

Wondering if anyone has any experience with seasonal affective disorder?

I’ve had a headache and been feeling a bit “meh” over the last couple of weeks and the only thing that’s changed is the light in the evenings, I definitely have had experience of it before but it hasn’t been a consistent thing that happens every year.

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Wondering if anyone has any experience with seasonal affective disorder?

I’ve had a headache and been feeling a bit “meh” over the last couple of weeks and the only thing that’s changed is the light in the evenings, I definitely have had experience of it before but it hasn’t been a consistent thing that happens every year.

I think the very poor summer coupled with the nights getting shorter can trigger the feeling down associated with anxiety and depression.


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Wondering if anyone has any experience with seasonal affective disorder?

I’ve had a headache and been feeling a bit “meh” over the last couple of weeks and the only thing that’s changed is the light in the evenings, I definitely have had experience of it before but it hasn’t been a consistent thing that happens every year.

I struggle with SAD.

As said above, the poor summer hasn't helped. At a time when our bodies and minds are expecting sunshine, we haven't been getting it. That, for me, makes it a double whammy. It sets up negative feelings of "I'm not storing up enough Vitamin D for the winter.....", which can lead to more anxiety. It also gives us an excuse not to take as much outdoor exercise.

I have 2 tools which I use, normally from about October. I have a light-box, which I keep on as long as I can in the morning. I also take industrial doses of Vitamin D (Ultra 4000 is my go-to).

As ever, exercise is an important tool for keeping your D levels up.

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I struggle with SAD.

As said above, the poor summer hasn't helped. At a time when our bodies and minds are expcting sunshine, we haven't been getting it. That, for me, makes it a double whammy. It sets up negative feelings of "I'm not storing up enough Vitamin D for the winter.....", which can lead to more anxiety. It also gives us an excuse not to take as much outdoor exercise.

I have 2 tools which I use, normally from about October. I have a light-box, which I keep on as long as I can in the morning. I also take industrial doses of Vitamin D (Ultra 4000 is my go-to).

As ever, exercise is an important tool for keeping your D levels up.

I take vitamin D also , I found when I stopped taking them I get sluggish and tired. For me it makes a big difference.
I've increased my holidays in the winter months as well being retired helps me there mind .

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I struggle with SAD.

As said above, the poor summer hasn't helped. At a time when our bodies and minds are expcting sunshine, we haven't been getting it. That, for me, makes it a double whammy. It sets up negative feelings of "I'm not storing up enough Vitamin D for the winter.....", which can lead to more anxiety. It also gives us an excuse not to take as much outdoor exercise.

I have 2 tools which I use, normally from about October. I have a light-box, which I keep on as long as I can in the morning. I also take industrial doses of Vitamin D (Ultra 4000 is my go-to).

As ever, exercise is an important tool for keeping your D levels up.

Thanks CWG, I stopped taking vit D during the "summer" but I'm back on it now.

Exercising regularly too, I'm hopeful that its just my body transitioning and the headache/tension I'm feeling will fade away. Sleep has been a bit disturbed the last few nights too, which is probably not helpful. I've been making a conscious effort to set a routine for bedtime, reading and no screens etc but it's become quite disturbed and I find when I stop reading my mind is racing until I fall asleep, then the dreams are bizarre. Had a better sleep last night though which was good.

Any recommendations on a lightbox? I was looking at a Light Alarm Clock, some are hellishly expensive.