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21-02-2024 05:59 PM #331
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21-02-2024 06:01 PM #332This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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21-02-2024 06:07 PM #333
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Amsterdam was 100% a car city before the council decided it would be a cycling city, closed roads to cars and added miles of cycling lanes. If Edinburgh closes uptown to cars as planned then cycling will rocket their
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21-02-2024 08:45 PM #334This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
There’s no comparison between Amsterdam and Edinburgh, one is opretty flat and already had a strong cycle culture, always has done. The other is a very hilly city with a miserable windy climate.
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21-02-2024 08:49 PM #335This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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21-02-2024 09:20 PM #336
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We'll probably never reach that but we should be trying to increase it as much as we can not compare ourselves to the most cycled city in the world. Spokes records city centre cycling twice a year and they say cycling numbers have doubled at commuting times, I'm not sure the accuracy but it certainly seems to be increasing massively
http://www.spokes.org.uk/2023/05/city-centre-traffic-count-bike-numbers-keep-growing/
Under 10% of bikes sold are ebikes but they must do a much higher mileage. Must be a good quarter or higher in the centre being ebikes but that's due to most delivery drivers having zoomos.
If the city centre goes car free I'm hopeful the numbers will finally make a move from the low point they are at. If we can even get 10% off cars onto bikes then that'll be thousands of miles of less carbon emissions and the NHS will be delighted too
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21-02-2024 09:24 PM #337
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https://twitter.com/CS3Count/status/1757898106266595708
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21-02-2024 09:34 PM #338This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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22-02-2024 07:42 AM #339This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Maybe their cities are less hilly or maybe you’re just saying anything for the sake of being contrary?
Comparison between cycling in a city built on hills and one that is largely flat is not a great starting point. That’s before you take into account a climate that is very different. Amsterdam is warmer, drier and as a result, much more cycle friendly than Edinburgh.
I suspect your lack of insight comes from not really having much experience of cycling in Edinburgh? Anyone who has actually done this knows that the hills and weather are a challenge.
Amsterdam is a city I have known well for many decades, cycling has always been a huge part of city life. Whilst there is potential to make Edinburgh more cycle friendly, it’s never going to become as widespread as it is in the Dam.
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22-02-2024 07:53 AM #340This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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22-02-2024 08:08 AM #341This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
As someone who is a utility cyclist (only cycle to work/back) I found wind and hills were the enemy but a very low level e-bike has levelled the playing field over the last year.
I love my 15 minutes (regardless of weather) commute. It's no slower than taking the car, much faster than the bus and it's good for my mental well being.
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22-02-2024 08:46 AM #342
https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/w...embraced-bikes
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22-02-2024 09:17 AM #343This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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22-02-2024 09:22 AM #344
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2...en-in-the-snow
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22-02-2024 10:31 AM #345
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Zurich a hilly city got its cycle rates from 2% of journeys to 8% of journeys in 10 years, it's also got almost double the rain we have that was all down to cycling infrastructure. Lisbon much hillyer than us has managed to double the cycling rate through adding miles of cycling lanes and pedestrianising. Antwerp has increased cycling 59% in 10 years, mostly due to the plan we are trying to copy in the city centre
Just comparing against Amsterdam is daft we'll never match that and aren't aiming to. We only should worry about ourselves. There is no reason that Scotland can't increase its cycling rates by double or quadruple like other wetter, hillyer and colder cities have managed
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23-02-2024 07:51 PM #346
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The weather is no doubt a factor but not as big as infrastructure. The hills can’t be changed so just gotta enjoy them when you’re on the way down :). I don’t cycle as much as a I would like to, mainly due to
1) Shift work. Don’t enjoy cycling home in the early hours of the morning and then having to shower imperially before going to bed.
2) Training for running events means I need to save the legs for runs at times.
Disregarding these two factors though and I tend to cycle most day shifts from mid spring through to mid Autumn as it’s generally enjoyable whereas winter cycling is a slog for me.
The infrastructure is also a huge game changer. I choose to cycle to work a route (shawfair cycle path) which is around double the distance on a route that is majority cycle path over the much shorter but all road route (which includes a chuck of the a7 and sheriff hall). The enjoyment is so much more on a route which is designed for cycling rather than dodging the giant potholes at the side of every road and knowing that when you swerve to avoid them your taking your life into your own hands.
We can’t change the weather, we can’t change the hills, but we can invest in better infrastructure because at the moment it’s pretty terrible really.
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23-02-2024 08:01 PM #347This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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24-02-2024 11:09 AM #348This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I'm not sure why we always compare any town/city that wishes to improve cycling uptake to Amsterdam, but it does always seem to be the sole point of reference.
I cycle all year round and very rarely need to wear full waterproofs. Genuinely, I reckon less than 10 times a year.
Anyhoo, back to Congestion charging and LEZ's....
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24-02-2024 11:21 AM #349
Perhaps the time is right to introduce bike tax for using public highways and cycle paths, also a cyclists must have minimum 3rd party insurance.
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24-02-2024 11:27 AM #350
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24-02-2024 11:29 AM #351
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Tram passengers have doubled since Newhaven route opening. It's hugely popular thanks to more of the city being covered
https://edinburghtrams.com/news/mill...aunch-new-line
More than seven million tram trips were recorded by the operator in the second half of 2023, compared to 3.4 million during the same period the previous year.
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24-02-2024 11:52 AM #352This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Most home insurance policies cover first party property and third party liability claims if your out on your bike.
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24-02-2024 12:01 PM #353This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Too many new cars were exempt so they’ve changed the rules so they can still tax us, not sure exactly what the changes are but I think only the first years tax will be based on emissions now.
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24-02-2024 12:28 PM #354
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24-02-2024 12:56 PM #355This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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24-02-2024 01:17 PM #356This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
A lot of folk are quite rightly complaining about the state of the roads around Edinburgh & beyond, the collapsed culvert at Cameron Toll a significant case in point. However, few folk want to concede that vehicle ownership has more than doubled in the last 30 years, and over the same time, the weight of the "average" vehicle has increased 25-30%. Basic maths means the roads are getting 2.5 times the damage, 2.5 times the potholes, they won't be getting 2.5 times the funding (inflation adjusted).
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28-02-2024 06:43 PM #357
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It would also be a near unenforceable decision. Are we suggesting putting registration plates on bikes? See the complete lack of enforcement in regards to e-scooters which technically should be registered, insured and the rider have a licence to drive on a road. Times that by 100 for the number of cyclists.
I assume kids go free in this plan? 😂
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28-02-2024 07:10 PM #358
Just been to Dundee, ULEZ comes into effect end of May. Everyone needs to be ready as they become more normal.
There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.
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28-03-2024 04:35 PM #359
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28-03-2024 05:16 PM #360
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