SNP are lying b******s as well !

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https://x.com/stvnews/status/1750853...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

Horrific headline. Media bias against the SNP hitting new levels.


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https://x.com/stvnews/status/1750853...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

Horrific headline. Media bias against the SNP hitting new levels.


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How much did he spend on wallpaper?

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Grimm polling across the board for the snp and the third nowcast that shows a labour seat lead. Humza will go but will they change tactics before election or take a huge drop in seats as a given and change post election.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/3...13025db32f574b

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Grimm polling across the board for the snp and the third nowcast that shows a labour seat lead. Humza will go but will they change tactics before election or take a huge drop in seats as a given and change post election.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/3...13025db32f574b

It's probably all a cunning plan ((C) Baldrick). When the SNP took all the Labour seats after the 2014 referendum then a whole load of Labour freeloaders joined the SNP. Now is the chance for them all to follow the winners again and go back to Labour, thus makng the SNP a more governalbe and sensible party.

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It's probably all a cunning plan ((C) Baldrick). When the SNP took all the Labour seats after the 2014 referendum then a whole load of Labour freeloaders joined the SNP. Now is the chance for them all to follow the winners again and go back to Labour, thus makng the SNP a more governalbe and sensible party.

I think the SNP was ahead of the game on that one when the former leader set up Alba for all the loonies and malcontents to join.

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Kate Forbes. With friends like these and all that.

She's fair put the cat among the pigeons.

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Kate Forbes. With friends like these and all that.

She's fair put the cat among the pigeons.

TBF she wasn't as destructive as some clips on Twitter are making out, I thought she stuck up for NS as best she could albeit still distancing herself from being a continuity candidate if/when she tries for the leadership again. One thing is for sure though, she certainly made the point that the current constitutional system does not work and needs changed whether you support SNP doing it or not, it just needs done.

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Kate Forbes. With friends like these and all that.

She's fair put the cat among the pigeons.

Sounds like she was open and honest throughout?


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Sounds like she was open and honest throughout?


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It'll never catch on.

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BBC Scotland wetting themselves in anticipation of sticking the knives into Sturgeon today; regardless of what she says at the inquiry they will use the opportunity to stoke up anti SNP and anti Sturgeon sentiment. It's what they live for these days.

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Sounds like she was open and honest throughout?


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She was.

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Here's a funny story:

https://www.thenational.scot/news/24...hesnp-twitter/

THE official account of the UK Covid Inquiry only follows one account on Twitter/X and it is called “DownWithTheSNP”.

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Here's a funny story:

https://www.thenational.scot/news/24...hesnp-twitter/

Guess what, I looked, and the official Covid-19 enquiry account doesn't follow anyone.

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Guess what, I looked, and the official Covid-19 enquiry account doesn't follow anyone.

Doesn't follow anyone NOW. Are you seriously suggesting they made it up?

An inquiry spokesperson said: "The UK Covid-19 Inquiry is independent, apolitical and only reaches conclusions once all the evidence has been thoroughly examined."

"The inquiry's @covidinquiryuk X account follows no other accounts – any prior follows were in error."

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Putting aside her emotional reaction to some of the questions today, I don’t think Nicola Sturgeon looked well at all. I am not an SNP supporter, but thought she did a decent job during the crisis. It seems to have taken its toll.

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Putting aside her emotional reaction to some of the questions today, I don’t think Nicola Sturgeon looked well at all. I am not an SNP supporter, but thought she did a decent job during the crisis. It seems to have taken its toll.

I’m not surprised with everyone lining up to give her a kicking without actually pointing to a significant wrong decision outside of the two already admitted by her of not locking down earlier and not testing before releasing people into care homes. On top of that she has the world’s slowest police investigation hanging over her.


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I’m not surprised with everyone lining up to give her a kicking without actually pointing to a significant wrong decision outside of the two already admitted by her of not locking down earlier and not testing before releasing people into care homes. On top of that she has the world’s slowest police investigation hanging over her.


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Excess deaths were the same as England with dafties like boris and Hancock in charge. I do believe her focus was on saving lives.

In hindsight there were many wrong decisions although it was impossible to know many at the time. We were still sending untested old folks into care homes after England. In the summer of 2020 we kept schools closed 2 months longer than England and a month later in 22 our education levels are now bellow England and fell more in the pandemic

We closed businesses more often post vaccine this obviously caused financial harms to businesses that is still being felt.

We had an extra lockdown to England due to Omicron pubs ect were closed over Christmas and New Year. England correctly decided Omicron was less harmful and it was ok to stay open as vaccines would do their job.

Bar Humza saying going into different zones could cause children to go to hospital and 11 kids had recently been hospitalised due to covid (a lie), the daftest thing I heard during was NS going on TV saying Danish figures shows Omicron is more deadly as a matter of fact. I said at the time it's only 50 people so far. When it expanded to thousands the week later and showed it was less deadly she refused to take it back. She just wanted the justification for closure.

I'd be happy with all the extra rules and closures if it worked and we had less deaths but every rule had a consequence whether financial or mental.

Hindsight is everything but end result shows we did the same as England. England was correct to open up post vaccines, vaccines were the only real difference in death outcomes in the vulnerable groups. It was an impossible horrible task for leaders

Hindsight again I would have locked down harder the first and second wave then trusted the vaccine results and opened up post roll out.

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...and he could steal the sugar oot yer tea.

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...and he could steal the sugar oot yer tea.

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And he admitted to deleting all his WhatsApp messages 🙄

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And he admitted to deleting all his WhatsApp messages 🙄

But that is OK because he's not Nicola Sturgeon. Witch hunt doesn't even begin to describe what's going on here

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But that is OK because he's not Nicola Sturgeon. Witch hunt doesn't even begin to describe what's going on here

It’s a pretty horrific pile on.
As has been pointed out, only the vaccine really brought this to an end and nobody is immune from bad decisions but what it appears the Scottish media have decided they can pin all the deaths on NS without pointing to a mistake she made that wasn’t made elsewhere.


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But that is OK because he's not Nicola Sturgeon. Witch hunt doesn't even begin to describe what's going on here

Everyone slammed Rishi for deleting his and Boris for reluctant handing over his. Everyone one of them who didn't hand over are a shower. As Forbes said it was obvious there would be an enquiry and these would be important. I don't think it's a witch hunt against the SNP and the tories I think people are angry with the handling of information. Boris rightly got smashed at the inquiry

Lots of good articles on the disgrace of Sunak deleting his
https://bylinetimes.com/2023/05/31/what-rishi-sunak-is-trying-to-hide-with-his-whatsapp-cover-up/

What is Rishi Sunak really trying to hide? That’s the inevitable question posed by the Prime Minister’s continued refusal to hand over key diaries and WhatsApp messages to the COVID Inquiry.

The refusal is no small thing. Under the terms of the Inquiries Act, ministers have a legal obligation to hand over any material which the inquiry’s chair, Lady Hallett, demands of them. Failure to do so could constitute a crime

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/rishi-sunak-whatsapp-texts-covid-inquiry-b2422937.html
Sunak ‘not sharing’ Covid WhatsApp texts ‘a disgrace straight from Boris playbook’

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Everyone slammed Rishi for deleting his and Boris for reluctant handing over his. Everyone one of them who didn't hand over are a shower. As Forbes said it was obvious there would be an enquiry and these would be important. I don't think it's a witch hunt against the SNP and the tories I think people are angry with the handling of information. Boris rightly got smashed at the inquiry

Lots of good articles on the disgrace of Sunak deleting his
https://bylinetimes.com/2023/05/31/what-rishi-sunak-is-trying-to-hide-with-his-whatsapp-cover-up/

What is Rishi Sunak really trying to hide? That’s the inevitable question posed by the Prime Minister’s continued refusal to hand over key diaries and WhatsApp messages to the COVID Inquiry.

The refusal is no small thing. Under the terms of the Inquiries Act, ministers have a legal obligation to hand over any material which the inquiry’s chair, Lady Hallett, demands of them. Failure to do so could constitute a crime

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/rishi-sunak-whatsapp-texts-covid-inquiry-b2422937.html
Sunak ‘not sharing’ Covid WhatsApp texts ‘a disgrace straight from Boris playbook’

I'm not really sure what your trying to say here. Do you think NS has been treated the same as Johnson, Sunak, Jack, etc? Should we be seeing Sarwar, Baillie, Foulks etc messages? They seemed to be very involved in trying to prevent messages being broadcast. Why was that? Could it have been political?

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It’s a pretty horrific pile on.
As has been pointed out, only the vaccine really brought this to an end and nobody is immune from bad decisions but what it appears the Scottish media have decided they can pin all the deaths on NS without pointing to a mistake she made that wasn’t made elsewhere.


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It would be horrendous and wrong to say NS didn't try to keep covid deaths as low as possible. It was a thankless task for any leader and one that's effecting everyone that was in charge at the time in elections post it around the world I think

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I'm not really sure what your trying to say here. Do you think NS has been treated the same as Johnson, Sunak, Jack, etc? Should we be seeing Sarwar, Baillie, Foulks etc messages? They seemed to be very involved in trying to prevent messages being broadcast. Why was that? Could it have been political?

She's getting treated the same as Boris and Hancock they were destroyed. We saw Whitteys, Boris, Hancocks ect WhatsApps as they were in charge. Of course we don't see the opposition who didn't make the decisions, that's the burden of being in government your decisions and how they came about are scrutinised

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BBC Scotland wetting themselves in anticipation of sticking the knives into Sturgeon today; regardless of what she says at the inquiry they will use the opportunity to stoke up anti SNP and anti Sturgeon sentiment. It's what they live for these days.

Soaked through yesterday.

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Who is this non-entity?

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Who is this non-entity?

That's your Secretary of State for Scotland. Please show some respect.

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She's getting treated the same as Boris and Hancock they were destroyed.

Disagree. She was on the end of very hostile questioning. Nothing like the soft soap that Johnson received.