Housing

[Ozyhibby]

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It’s got less attention because of the income tax changes but there were some serious steps taken on housing in today’s Scottish budget.

The overall housing budget was cut by nearly 30%.

The budget for new homes is now half of what it was in 2022-23. Nearly £200m taken out for this year coming, a similar amount already taken out this year

The budget for fuel poverty and housing quality is going to be cut to 8% (eight) of what it was last year.

If it wasn’t working before it’s not going to be working any better now.

Not to mention the fact they keep ignoring planning reform (I know this isn’t a budget issue). It’s the one thing that costs nothing, delivers economic growth and also helps solve housing problem.


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[Moulin Yarns]

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Not to mention the fact they keep ignoring planning reform (I know this isn’t a budget issue). It’s the one thing that costs nothing, delivers economic growth and also helps solve housing problem.


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https://www.transformingplanning.scot/

Every local authority has a duty to produce a local plan for development every 5 years. It identifies future opportunities for all development.

[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...-fife-67944481

Not sure how long it will take though.

[Ozyhibby]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...-fife-67944481

Not sure how long it will take though.

Great news and exactly what we need. Terrible name though.


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[Billy Whizz]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...-fife-67944481

Not sure how long it will take though.

Is this the site that was knocked back from the Scottish government a few years ago? Think Edinburgh council approved it first!
Biggest problem with that area are the roads. They’ll need to do something substantial on the A8, or it will gridlock around the airport

[Ozyhibby]

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Is this the site that was knocked back from the Scottish government a few years ago? Think Edinburgh council approved it first!
Biggest problem with that area are the roads. They’ll need to do something substantial on the A8, or it will gridlock around the airport

Already got a train and tram stop though so not as much infrastructure needed. I’m sure road will be upgraded as well.


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[Moulin Yarns]

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Is this the site that was knocked back from the Scottish government a few years ago? Think Edinburgh council approved it first!
Biggest problem with that area are the roads. They’ll need to do something substantial on the A8, or it will gridlock around the airport

According to the article


The development is designed so residents could live there without needing a car.

Developers said the site would also have 27 acres of parks and a network of cycle, running and walking tracks.

[hibee]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...-fife-67944481

Not sure how long it will take though.

They should be made to build all the promised parks, schools etc before any houses to stop them backing out of them once the house building starts.

I would hate to live on that stretch of road but I’m sure it will suit plenty of people.

[Stairway 2 7]

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Great news and exactly what we need. Terrible name though.


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Read the link and was almost going to word for word write your reply, ****** West Town

[Ozyhibby]

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Read the link and was almost going to word for word write your reply, ****** West Town

That surely won’t survive the first marketing meeting.


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[speedy_gonzales]

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Is this the site that was knocked back from the Scottish government a few years ago? Think Edinburgh council approved it first!
Biggest problem with that area are the roads. They’ll need to do something substantial on the A8, or it will gridlock around the airport

This is a fairly new development/site proposal due to Edinburgh Airport giving up their crosswind runway and associated land.
There was another proposal a good few years back, across the A8. Land owned by David Murray and being touted as a "garden city".

[nonshinyfinish]

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They should be made to build all the promised parks, schools etc before any houses to stop them backing out of them once the house building starts.

I would hate to live on that stretch of road but I’m sure it will suit plenty of people.

Absolutely.

This place is near me: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-66156561

Promised shops, cafes, sports facilities and a GP, then just built the houses and pissed off.

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Noticed there’s a director called John Fyfe Hyland, listed as a director of this new build at the airport
Is he the ex Hibs man

[Moulin Yarns]

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Absolutely.

This place is near me: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-66156561

Promised shops, cafes, sports facilities and a GP, then just built the houses and pissed off.

The new village at Bertha Park on the outskirts of Perth, the first thing built was the high school.

[Ozyhibby]

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Absolutely.

This place is near me: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-66156561

Promised shops, cafes, sports facilities and a GP, then just built the houses and pissed off.

To be fair, they put in a train station here long before anyone needed it.


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[Stairway 2 7]

I argued for a living rent on here in good faith, oz said it would increase rents as it has in every city that has tried it. It obviously did. Argentina has deregulated rent and prices have fallen 20% and availability has doubled. Supply and demand

https://twitter.com/MrRBourne/status...72753851728055

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.heraldscotland.com/opini...83&date=200124


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[Berwickhibby]

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https://www.heraldscotland.com/opini...83&date=200124


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Correct me if I am wrong, because of legislation introduced by the Scottish Government being so rigid, the developers are not building family homes but student accommodation instead.

[Ozyhibby]

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Correct me if I am wrong, because of legislation introduced by the Scottish Government being so rigid, the developers are not building family homes but student accommodation instead.

Yes. It’s perfectly logical. Build a family home and you can’t raise the rent in line with inflation then eventually you are going to be losing money. Build student accomodation and you can raise the rent because students move out every summer and you are allowed to raise rent on new tenancies.
That’s not the biggest problem though. The biggest issue is developers not building in Scotland at all. Why build in Scotland when England offers a less risky environment?
This is already happening with several developments being cancelled.
The more this happens, the higher rents will rise for new tenancies and the more landlords will leave the industry.


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[Stairway 2 7]

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Yes. It’s perfectly logical. Build a family home and you can’t raise the rent in line with inflation then eventually you are going to be losing money. Build student accomodation and you can raise the rent because students move out every summer and you are allowed to raise rent on new tenancies.
That’s not the biggest problem though. The biggest issue is developers not building in Scotland at all. Why build in Scotland when England offers a less risky environment?
This is already happening with several developments being cancelled.
The more this happens, the higher rents will rise for new tenancies and the more landlords will leave the industry.


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I think housing is possibly the biggest issue in the UK if not now certainly the next 50 years. I don't understand why it doesn't get the press. Possibly as its easier to deflect, possibly as no major party can hold there head up in having helped the matter

[Ozyhibby]

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I think housing is possibly the biggest issue in the UK if not now certainly the next 50 years. I don't understand why it doesn't get the press. Possibly as its easier to deflect, possibly as no major party can hold there head up in having helped the matter

No major party even has an interest in it at the moment. It’s baffling.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/danielhewittitv/status...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

I imagine this won’t be much different in Scotland.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://www.thenational.scot/news/24...ing-need-know/
Rent freeze is being ditched. A move towards common sense.


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[hibee]

Even the Scottish Government are struggling to find good value rentals in Edinburgh now, according to this they spent £29,546.67 renting a 3 bed flat for Humza and his family for 5 months.


https://news.stv.tv/east-central/sco...-house-repairs

[Moulin Yarns]

https://news.stv.tv/west-central/aba...uncil-takeover

A tiny move but it's in the right direction, and if other owners aren't willing to use the property then get them bought up.

[Ozyhibby]

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https://news.stv.tv/west-central/aba...uncil-takeover

A tiny move but it's in the right direction, and if other owners aren't willing to use the property then get them bought up.

I’m sure there is a reason for it but why don’t the council just rent them out themselves rather than hand to housing association?


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[Moulin Yarns]

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I’m sure there is a reason for it but why don’t the council just rent them out themselves rather than hand to housing association?


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Answer is in the article.

[greenginger]

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https://news.stv.tv/west-central/aba...uncil-takeover

A tiny move but it's in the right direction, and if other owners aren't willing to use the property then get them bought up.

I read an article that said Edinburgh Council had 1500 empty flats but did not have the funds to bring them up to rentable standards.

Can I CPO some of them ?

[w pilton hibby]

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I’m sure there is a reason for it but why don’t the council just rent them out themselves rather than hand to housing association?


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Check out Wheatley Homes.

[hibee]

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Check out Wheatley Homes.

Just had a quick look at what’s available, there’s a 2 bed flat for £76pw, no wonder they get so many applications at that price.