Managerial Sack Race

[blackpoolhibs]

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just have to turn it up to 11


TBH I don't think we are in a crisis but some people on here do. There were threads like "i hate hibs" and "get monty out" etc.

That was me, and at the time i did hate them although i've never wanted Monty out. There's no crisis in my opinion, maybe boredom or apathy have crept in, but crisis i dont think so.

[xbar81]

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That was me, and at the time i did hate them although i've never wanted Monty out. There's no crisis in my opinion, maybe boredom or apathy have crept in, but crisis i dont think so.

you were just emotional mate. Next derby take a tranquliser

[Donegal Hibby]

Before Mourinho was sacked there was speculation ( only paper talk ) that Newcastle had held talks with him about replacing Eddie Howie . Probably all s**** though is Eddie Howie another manager under pressure depending on next few results? .

[blackpoolhibs]

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you were just emotional mate. Next derby take a tranquliser

Before or after?

[xbar81]

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Before or after?

half time lol

[greenlex]

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Before or after?

Both just to be sure G.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

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Before Mourinho was sacked there was speculation ( only paper talk ) that Newcastle had held talks with him about replacing Eddie Howie . Probably all s**** though is Eddie Howie another manager under pressure depending on next few results? .

Hope so. I chucked a tenner on him to be next prem manager to leave at 7/1 after they lost consecutive games to (I think) luton and forest

[HoboHarry]

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Before Mourinho was sacked there was speculation ( only paper talk ) that Newcastle had held talks with him about replacing Eddie Howie . Probably all s**** though is Eddie Howie another manager under pressure depending on next few results? .

What little feeling I have for Newcastle would evaporate if they appointed Mourinho. His race his run and his stay at every club is the same, short term success followed by a trail of destruction and leaving the place a mess.

[Paulie Walnuts]

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Before Mourinho was sacked there was speculation ( only paper talk ) that Newcastle had held talks with him about replacing Eddie Howie . Probably all s**** though is Eddie Howie another manager under pressure depending on next few results? .

Wouldn’t be all that surprised. Think they’ve lost 6 of their last 7 I read somewhere (can’t be bothered to check, that seems astonishing if true but I’m going to presume it is). That’s not good enough at that level.

[J-C]

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As opposed to you relentlessly having a go at LJ when he was here and after he left? What's the difference?

Haha, I only turned against LJ near the end when he got booted, I was neither for or against him during his time, his BS was the only real thing that annoyed me about him, I wanted him gone after the cup defeat against Hearts and the 0-3 defeat against them earlier didn't help. Looking back on last season reminded me how streaky his time was, 4 losses and then 4-5 wins and repeat.

Unlike you who's been against Montgomery since day one and have let everyone know in almost every thread you post on.

[Wilson]

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Do you not think the players are a fairly major part of the issue?

No. We could have better quality in depth but that's about it. That Monty hasn't got as much out of Youan as Lee did is a worry. That a proven talisman like Boyle is ineffective is a worry. That Vente can't buy a goal is a worry.

If for Monty's system to work means the existing talent fails then I'd start questioning the system.

[J-C]

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No. We could have better quality in depth but that's about it. That Monty hasn't got as much out of Youan as Lee did is a worry. That a proven talisman like Boyle is ineffective is a worry. That Vente can't buy a goal is a worry.

If for Monty's system to work means the existing talent fails then I'd start questioning the system.

There's the problem, players injured long term and having young 17yr olds on the bench instead, the starting 11 feel no pressure on them and their places are almost guaranteed, complacency sometimes sets in.

[BoltonHibee]

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you were just emotional mate. Next derby take a tranquliser

He can’t go, I sold his season ticket that he launched along with his scarf


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[B.H.F.C]

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No. We could have better quality in depth but that's about it. That Monty hasn't got as much out of Youan as Lee did is a worry. That a proven talisman like Boyle is ineffective is a worry. That Vente can't buy a goal is a worry.

If for Monty's system to work means the existing talent fails then I'd start questioning the system.

The Youan thing I think has been overplayed. He’s scored six since Monty came in the door having scored nine in the whole of last season. He’ll improve on that this season and continue to go from the sublime to the ridiculous from minute to minute. Playing Boyle up front week in, week out I totally disagree with. That’s a mistake.

It’s not just lack of quality in depth, it’s just a total lack of quality in certain positions, namely centre half, and that is what is costing us more than anything.

There are things Montgomery could and should be doing differently but there are things that are absolutely on the players. He can’t header the ball away in the last minute of the derby for Rocky or score the penalty for Boyle and that’s just a couple of examples of big errors players have made that have cost us that are absolutely nothing to do with anything tactical.

[TrinityHFC]

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Haha, I only turned against LJ near the end when he got booted, I was neither for or against him during his time, his BS was the only real thing that annoyed me about him, I wanted him gone after the cup defeat against Hearts and the 0-3 defeat against them earlier didn't help. Looking back on last season reminded me how streaky his time was, 4 losses and then 4-5 wins and repeat.

Unlike you who's been against Montgomery since day one and have let everyone know in almost every thread you post on.

Nonsense. You’ve previously admitted you sussed LJ out early on and wanted him out.

That’s fine but then don’t go over dramatic on people who think that way about the current manager. Accusing people of not being Hibs fans and ignoring people left, right and centre is pathetic behaviour just because this time they have a different view from you.

[blackpoolhibs]

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[Winston Ingram]

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No. We could have better quality in depth but that's about it. That Monty hasn't got as much out of Youan as Lee did is a worry. That a proven talisman like Boyle is ineffective is a worry. That Vente can't buy a goal is a worry.

If for Monty's system to work means the existing talent fails then I'd start questioning the system.

This and I’d be very surprised if the board aren’t thinking the very same. They’ve spent a fortune on these 3 and it’ll be a lot cheaper to bullet Monty than it’d would to write off the amount paid for that lot.

[Paulie Walnuts]

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Haha, I only turned against LJ near the end when he got booted, I was neither for or against him during his time, his BS was the only real thing that annoyed me about him, I wanted him gone after the cup defeat against Hearts and the 0-3 defeat against them earlier didn't help. Looking back on last season reminded me how streaky his time was, 4 losses and then 4-5 wins and repeat.

Unlike you who's been against Montgomery since day one and have let everyone know in almost every thread you post on.

And yet there’s numerous posts from you from November 2022 onwards (possibly even earlier but I’ve not read any earlier threads) saying to get him out the club, time to go etc.

[J-C]

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And yet there’s numerous posts from you from November 2022 onwards (possibly even earlier but I’ve not read any earlier threads) saying to get him out the club, time to go etc.

How can you be arsed trawling through posts from over a year ago, can you find them and show them as I can't recall what I posted last week.

[Paulie Walnuts]

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How can you be arsed trawling through posts from over a year ago, can you find them and show them as I can't recall what I posted last week.

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?359917-Manager-needs-to-go

8 November 2022. 19 games into his tenure.

[Since452]

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https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?359917-Manager-needs-to-go

8 November 2022. 19 games into his tenure.

Interesting thread. If you didn't know, it could be about Montgomery, Johnson, Maloney. Easy to see where the problem is.

[blackpoolhibs]

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Interesting thread. If you didn't know, it could be about Montgomery, Johnson, Maloney. Easy to see where the problem is.

Reading that thread, its exactly the same arguments we have today. Managers fault, players fault, recruitment fault or tactics.

[Paulie Walnuts]

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Interesting thread. If you didn't know, it could be about Montgomery, Johnson, Maloney. Easy to see where the problem is.

I’ve quite enjoyed reading some of the older threads

So far there’s been numerous folk who can’t even fathom talk of managers being sacked so early who were asking for previous managers to be sacked even earlier, folk who are currently calling fans entitled for daring to question whether Montgomery is under pressure who wanted previous managers out after 7 games (W3, D2, L2) and folk who are insistent that our formation and system under NM doesn’t actually matter who were very insistent that Maloneys formation and system was the problem

[Since452]

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Reading that thread, its exactly the same arguments we have today. Managers fault, players fault, recruitment fault or tactics.

Yup. Shows how poorly we've been run on the football side of things since the Gordons took over that fans are having often heated debates over all you've mentioned above. All started with the sacking of Jack Ross after failing to back him that summer. Sad and frustrating.

[Since452]

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I’ve quite enjoyed reading some of the older threads

So far there’s been numerous folk who can’t even fathom talk of managers being sacked so early who were asking for previous managers to be sacked even earlier, folk who are currently calling fans entitled for daring to question whether Montgomery is under pressure who wanted previous managers out after 7 games (W3, D2, L2) and folk who are insistent that our formation and system under NM doesn’t actually matter who were very insistent that Maloneys formation and system was the problem

I noticed one prominent poster on that thread saying that LJ should be gone for sticking to 433 all the time and hoping for the best. Same poster scoffs at the idea of NM being critisised for the exactly the same thing. Gave me a wee chuckle.

[Trinity Hibee]

I get that this is more speculation but say there was little progress by NM come the summer and Ian Murray had got Raith promoted either as champions or the play offs. Do we think he’d be in with a shout of getting the Hibs job.

Listened to the open goal interview with IM and he seems grounded, not lost in any buzzwords etc, obviously gets the club. Would be interesting

[Paulie Walnuts]

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I noticed one prominent poster on that thread saying that LJ should be gone for sticking to 433 all the time and hoping for the best. Same poster scoffs at the idea of NM being critisised for the exactly the same thing. Gave me a wee chuckle.

Think the moral of the story is we’re all guilty of talking utter ***** on here so getting yourself worked into a tizzy over other peoples posts is just daft.

[Heisenberg]

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https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?359917-Manager-needs-to-go

8 November 2022. 19 games into his tenure.

Quite surprised I don’t seem to have wanted him out by then. My shout that Will Fish will probably never play for us has turned out to be a belter.

[Jones28]

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I get that this is more speculation but say there was little progress by NM come the summer and Ian Murray had got Raith promoted either as champions or the play offs. Do we think he’d be in with a shout of getting the Hibs job.

Listened to the open goal interview with IM and he seems grounded, not lost in any buzzwords etc, obviously gets the club. Would be interesting

I really like Murray, and hope he gets Raith up as I like them too.

If we are in a similar position come the summer the manager won’t be sacked though.

If NM goes for whatever reason IM would be very high on my list of targets.

[xbar81]

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I really like Murray, and hope he gets Raith up as I like them too.

If we are in a similar position come the summer the manager won’t be sacked though.

If NM goes for whatever reason IM would be very high on my list of targets.

IM is an obvious choice he live an breaths hibs