Housing

[Ozyhibby]

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I see the student accommodation at Jock's Lodge has had planning permission granted after the developer appealed to the SG who have now overturned the councils rejection.

Great news. I can see no reason why that would have been rejected in the first place.


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[Keyser Sauzee]

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Great news. I can see no reason why that would have been rejected in the first place.


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Where about at Jocks Lodge is the hosing going to be?

[Ozyhibby]

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Where about at Jocks Lodge is the hosing going to be?

I think where the pub was?


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[Pretty Boy]

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Where about at Jocks Lodge is the hosing going to be?

The whole drag where the Willow/Old Jock's Lodge pub is.

Replacing the Willow, Limelite, Ball Room, bookies etc. Owner of Limelite will be running a new venture in the development.

Tbh it's had a lot of opposition and I understand some of the lamenting the fact that a pub or inn has stood on the site for centuries. However the space looks increasingly run down and whilst I'm a huge supporter of any drive to build more social housing I'm unaware of any rival bid to do so on this site so it's an irrelevant argument that will be overused.

[RyeSloan]

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Great news. I can see no reason why that would have been rejected in the first place.


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Might have been due to the 1,000 objections made and the three local councillors for the area being against it after canvassing their electorate?

It’s also going to be 7 stories tall which is a rather gargantuan building for that site.

Owner of Limelite will be happy tho…he gets a brand new mega pub out of it.

[hibee]

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Owner of Limelite will be happy tho…he gets a brand new mega pub out of it.

And hundreds of potential customers living right next door!

[Mon Dieu4]

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I see the student accommodation at Jock's Lodge has had planning permission granted after the developer appealed to the SG who have now overturned the councils rejection.

Without even seeing any of the plans I'm 100% sure I know exactly what it will look like as well

[RyeSloan]

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Without even seeing any of the plans I'm 100% sure I know exactly what it will look like as well

Were you thinking of this level of ugliness?

[Mon Dieu4]

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Were you thinking of this level of ugliness?

Amazing how so many different architects can churn out the exact same ***** time and time again, copy and paste

[greenginger]

https://theedinburghreporter.co.uk/2...-housing-site/

I see our councillors are digging another hole for themselves .

A tree preservation order on building plots with planning permission and the roads , drains etc already in situ.

[Ozyhibby]

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https://theedinburghreporter.co.uk/2...-housing-site/

I see our councillors are digging another hole for themselves .

A tree preservation order on building plots with planning permission and the roads , drains etc already in situ.

The same people will be complaining about high house prices soon enough. Ridiculous.


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[Stairway 2 7]

Housing emergency in Edinburgh, rents flying up, homelessness growing and large population growth expected in the future. But houses get objections from people who have a house already, I'm alright Jack. We need a planning overhaul soon, the one place UK is world beating is awful planning.

I don't understand the constant objections to student housing. These people are paying 10k+ a year for education, usually close to 1k a month in rent for these tiny rooms. If they don't get these they will outbid your average family for a rent every time. We can either let them buy every flat available or put them in huge rabbit hutches.

I notice Glasgow is building an 800 room 36 story skyscraper for students. We should do the same away from the centre perhaps down Newhaven beside the tram
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...r-put-forward/

[Ozyhibby]

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Housing emergency in Edinburgh, rents flying up, homelessness growing and large population growth expected in the future. But houses get objections from people who have a house already, I'm alright Jack. We need a planning overhaul soon, the one place UK is world beating is awful planning.

I don't understand the constant objections to student housing. These people are paying 10k+ a year for education, usually close to 1k a month in rent for these tiny rooms. If they don't get these they will outbid your average family for a rent every time. We can either let them buy every flat available or put them in huge rabbit hutches.

I notice Glasgow is building an 800 room 36 story skyscraper for students. We should do the same away from the centre perhaps down Newhaven beside the tram
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...r-put-forward/

Totally agree. We need just about every category of housing. Even new luxury homes.
The biggest thing holding Edinburgh back is high housing costs.


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[Speedy]

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Housing emergency in Edinburgh, rents flying up, homelessness growing and large population growth expected in the future. But houses get objections from people who have a house already, I'm alright Jack. We need a planning overhaul soon, the one place UK is world beating is awful planning.

I don't understand the constant objections to student housing. These people are paying 10k+ a year for education, usually close to 1k a month in rent for these tiny rooms. If they don't get these they will outbid your average family for a rent every time. We can either let them buy every flat available or put them in huge rabbit hutches.

I notice Glasgow is building an 800 room 36 story skyscraper for students. We should do the same away from the centre perhaps down Newhaven beside the tram
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...r-put-forward/

Agreed. I often think I'm missing something.

Loads of objections to student housing around gorgie/dalry in preference of affordable housing. If the students are in student accomodation, does that not free up tenement flats for non students?

[Ozyhibby]

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Agreed. I often think I'm missing something.

Loads of objections to student housing around gorgie/dalry in preference of affordable housing. If the students are in student accomodation, does that not free up tenement flats for non students?

Absolutely. We just need more houses full stop.
Our problem is that everything just takes so long. I was down at Ferry road yesterday and the have now started work on the new houses where the old Craigroyston ash pitch used to be. That has been ear marked for houses since the school closed but it’s only getting built on now? Why on earth has it taken so long?
Fettes police station is being sold off now. That’s a massive piece of land that could fit a lot of houses/flats on. I bet it’s at least ten years before a brick is laid on that site.


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[greenginger]

The site just up from Fettes Police station on Craigleith Road, the old Victoria hospital, has been closed and the site cleared for about 15 years.

Every so often the various uses get brought up and discussed and put away for another survey , study, or consultation.

Still it keeps council officials in a job.

[The Modfather]

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The whole drag where the Willow/Old Jock's Lodge pub is.

Replacing the Willow, Limelite, Ball Room, bookies etc. Owner of Limelite will be running a new venture in the development.

Tbh it's had a lot of opposition and I understand some of the lamenting the fact that a pub or inn has stood on the site for centuries. However the space looks increasingly run down and whilst I'm a huge supporter of any drive to build more social housing I'm unaware of any rival bid to do so on this site so it's an irrelevant argument that will be overused.

Dissapointing to hear that The Ball Room will be getting knocked down for student flats. Spent most of my teens in there playing snooker when it was called The Angle Club and then The New Yorker. If I lived that side of town again I’d genuinely not know where I could go for a game of snooker. Saying that locations are thin on the ground throughout the city.

[Ozyhibby]

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Dissapointing to hear that The Ball Room will be getting knocked down for student flats. Spent most of my teens in there playing snooker when it was called The Angle Club and then The New Yorker. If I lived that side of town again I’d genuinely not know where I could go for a game of snooker. Saying that locations are thin on the ground throughout the city.

Same in the west of the city. Snooker just not as popular these days.

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news...r-26006043.amp


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[greenginger]

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The whole drag where the Willow/Old Jock's Lodge pub is.

Replacing the Willow, Limelite, Ball Room, bookies etc. Owner of Limelite will be running a new venture in the development.

Tbh it's had a lot of opposition and I understand some of the lamenting the fact that a pub or inn has stood on the site for centuries. However the space looks increasingly run down and whilst I'm a huge supporter of any drive to build more social housing I'm unaware of any rival bid to do so on this site so it's an irrelevant argument that will be overused.

I’ve got some old maps, 1817 Kirkwood plans of Edinburgh and Jock’s Lodge is noted on that corner back then.

I hope the name is not lost, I remember it as a marker on my way to Easter Road on the 44 bus , back in the days when you got your ticket punched

[lapsedhibee]

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The site just up from Fettes Police station on Craigleith Road, the old Victoria hospital, has been closed and the site cleared for about 15 years.

Every so often the various uses get brought up and discussed and put away for another survey , study, or consultation.

Early 2017.

[Ozyhibby]

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Early 2017.

Even 6 years is too long. Council crying their eyes out about a housing emergency but not getting houses built.


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[lapsedhibee]

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Even 6 years is too long.

[Stairway 2 7]

Read something about different planning timescales in Europe, UK has years on everyone else. Planning, surveys, reviews plans, disputes, discussions someone will be making cash out. Think the housing emergency is like the climate emergency. Things need done today not talked about, we just aren't up to that.

Covid showed us similar, needed action now. Instead we got plan, look elsewhere, talk, then panic and still give jobs and bungs to mates businesses before anything meaningful is done. Sorry about the tangent

[Stairway 2 7]

Could the council or government build student flats the scale of Glasgow. Use the huge profits to build social housing and amenities for the areas with high influx of population?

[Ozyhibby]

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Could the council or government build student flats the scale of Glasgow. Use the huge profits to build social housing and amenities for the areas with high influx of population?

Yes.


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[Ozyhibby]

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Read something about different planning timescales in Europe, UK has years on everyone else. Planning, surveys, reviews plans, disputes, discussions someone will be making cash out. Think the housing emergency is like the climate emergency. Things need done today not talked about, we just aren't up to that.

Covid showed us similar, needed action now. Instead we got plan, look elsewhere, talk, then panic and still give jobs and bungs to mates businesses before anything meaningful is done. Sorry about the tangent

There will be more people employed talking about a development than there will be in the eventual building of it. That’s why we have such terrible productivity in the UK.


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[overdrive]

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The site just up from Fettes Police station on Craigleith Road, the old Victoria hospital, has been closed and the site cleared for about 15 years.

Every so often the various uses get brought up and discussed and put away for another survey , study, or consultation.

Still it keeps council officials in a job.

I read that the council want one of Fettes or the Victoria Hospital to build a Gaelic High School.

[lapsedhibee]

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I read that the council want one of Fettes or the Victoria Hospital to build a Gaelic High School.

Seem to have been considering this in 2021 but ruling it out in 2022.

[Ozyhibby]

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Seem to have been considering this in 2021 but ruling it out in 2022.

They need to focus on bringing money in. A couple of hundred houses brings in much needed council tax. And helps house the population.


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[Mibbes Aye]

It’s got less attention because of the income tax changes but there were some serious steps taken on housing in today’s Scottish budget.

The overall housing budget was cut by nearly 30%.

The budget for new homes is now half of what it was in 2022-23. Nearly £200m taken out for this year coming, a similar amount already taken out this year

The budget for fuel poverty and housing quality is going to be cut to 8% (eight) of what it was last year.

If it wasn’t working before it’s not going to be working any better now.