Tavares

[Centre Hawf]

Sold the boy a stepover and worked space for a good cross but was fouled instead on the one occasion he got the ball. Done well when he had it.

[BoomtownHibees]

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Sold the boy a stepover and worked space for a good cross but was fouled instead on the one occasion he got the ball. Done well when he had it.

Think he had played the ball out the park and got lucky with the guy fouling him

[CL0762]

Some of the comments in here are absolutely mental.

Let’s just summarise;

Young lad, who’s English isn’t his first language, is heralded as one of the best young players we could’ve signed under a new regime

Is given #10 which is a number very fondly looked upon by our support

Starts against St Johnstone & Livingston, then is almost completely bombed out the squad

Returns for a few games on the bench, and is then never to be seen again

Squad goes abroad for pre season and is left back in Edinburgh

Barely even gets a mention for the dev squad.

New manager comes in, and gives the laddie a chance with 2 sub appearances & a start against one of the bogiest of bogie teams for us.

Hasn’t had anywhere near a stinker in the minutes played so far, which in his own estimation he probably would never have expected.

Give the laddie a ****ing break, you’re lucky if in over a year he’s played enough minutes combined to total even 10 games.

If by the end of the season his contribution is still null then by all means criticise but the way he was treated previously was nothing short of a disgrace and the laddie deserves all the support he can get to try and regain whatever confidence he had when he walked through the door last summer.

[JammyDoidger]

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Some of the comments in here are absolutely mental.

Let’s just summarise;

Young lad, who’s English isn’t his first language, is heralded as one of the best young players we could’ve signed under a new regime

Is given #10 which is a number very fondly looked upon by our support

Starts against St Johnstone & Livingston, then is almost completely bombed out the squad

Returns for a few games on the bench, and is then never to be seen again

Squad goes abroad for pre season and is left back in Edinburgh

Barely even gets a mention for the dev squad.

New manager comes in, and gives the laddie a chance with 2 sub appearances & a start against one of the bogiest of bogie teams for us.

Hasn’t had anywhere near a stinker in the minutes played so far, which in his own estimation he probably would never have expected.

Give the laddie a ****ing break, you’re lucky if in over a year he’s played enough minutes combined to total even 10 games.

If by the end of the season his contribution is still null then by all means criticise but the way he was treated previously was nothing short of a disgrace and the laddie deserves all the support he can get to try and regain whatever confidence he had when he walked through the door last summer.

What you making excuses for him for? If he's good enough, then show it? Hee had the opportunity now, mollycoddling at its best.

[Rumble de Thump]

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What you making excuses for him for? If he's good enough, then show it? Hee had the opportunity now, mollycoddling at its best.

Acknowledging what has happened is very different from making excuses. It's just not being ignorant. If the head coach considers him to the one of the best players we have available in a position he can play in then he will get some game time. The transfer window closed a while ago so we have to do what we can with the squad of players we have available.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Nothing instills confidence a player like your own fans loathing you. Folk seem to be desperate for him to fail forgetting that he was very much obsolete under the previous management team.

I think the only thing that can save tavares is the return of mckirdy

[JimBHibees]

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What you making excuses for him for? If he's good enough, then show it? Hee had the opportunity now, mollycoddling at its best.

He was fine when he came on yesterday.

[easty]

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Nothing instills confidence a player like your own fans loathing you. Folk seem to be desperate for him to fail forgetting that he was very much obsolete under the previous management team.

I think the only thing that can save tavares is the return of mckirdy

Dramatic much? Nobody booed the sub, nobody booed him, I heard nothing negative shouted about him around me.

I can’t speak for everyone who thinks he’s hopeless, but I know I support him 100% when he’s on the pitch for Hibs. Just like every other player.

I’d have a fit McKirdy playing ahead of him every single time though, no doubt about it.

[BILLYHIBS]

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Dramatic much? Nobody booed the sub, nobody booed him, I heard nothing negative shouted about him around me.

I can’t speak for everyone who thinks he’s hopeless, but I know I support him 100% when he’s on the pitch for Hibs. Just like every other player.

I’d have a fit McKirdy playing ahead of him every single time though, no doubt about it.

Never heard any boos in the West Lower for the boy in fact got a round of applause when he won the free kick

Wonder what NM will make of McKirdy ?

Maybes he can work his Jase magic on him ?

[Fuzzywuzzy]

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Dramatic much? Nobody booed the sub, nobody booed him, I heard nothing negative shouted about him around me.

I can’t speak for everyone who thinks he’s hopeless, but I know I support him 100% when he’s on the pitch for Hibs. Just like every other player.

I’d have a fit McKirdy playing ahead of him every single time though, no doubt about it.

Dramatic, maybe. I occasionally sashay as well but only on special occasions.

My point is, rather than letting the guy get back involved in getting his fitness up, being back in first team circles and getting game time, we have some fans that need a bogeyman.

We also have fans that are right miserable *******s. St Johnstone game last week, the guy beside me never clapped when the team came out, never cheered when we scored, moaned a lot about any ball being played, calling most folk on the park a ****.

[Allant1981]

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Dramatic, maybe. I occasionally sashay as well but only on special occasions.

My point is, rather than letting the guy get back involved in getting his fitness up, being back in first team circles and getting game time, we have some fans that need a bogeyman.

We also have fans that are right miserable *******s. St Johnstone game last week, the guy beside me never clapped when the team came out, never cheered when we scored, moaned a lot about any ball being played, calling most folk on the park a ****.

It's not really a bogeyman though is it, it's living in the real world and saying he just doesn't look very good, people are still allowed to form opinions on players these days, he may well come good and be an important player for the club but he looks no where near like a player who can improve us, yes he hasn't played much and fitness levels/match sharpness will be no where near where he would want but he still doesn't look very god

[Bobby's Cinema]

I'm all for the manager giving everyone a clean slate and giving everyone a chance.

We should be treating him as if he's a new signing. If it doesn't work out with NM then it's time to move on. As others have said we don't have many options in that area if it's not working with Elie/ Boyle. He has to work with what he's got.

It's not been convincing at all but I think we have a better chance bringing a guy on that has the confidence from the manager and has been in and around the squad, rather than bringing him in from the cold and shoving him on to take the heat and asking him to do something.

[JimBHibees]

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Dramatic, maybe. I occasionally sashay as well but only on special occasions.

My point is, rather than letting the guy get back involved in getting his fitness up, being back in first team circles and getting game time, we have some fans that need a bogeyman.

We also have fans that are right miserable *******s. St Johnstone game last week, the guy beside me never clapped when the team came out, never cheered when we scored, moaned a lot about any ball being played, calling most folk on the park a ****.

Think I would be moving

[500miles]

Tavares was fine when he came on. A bit light weight, but also beat his man and got the ball into the box during his limited cameo.

[GreenPJ]

I don't think any Hibs fan wants him to fail but answer this question - do you want him starting or on the bench against Hearts? For me he is not involved nearly enough in the game and is too light weight.

I am not writing him off but I don't think he is ready for the first team and certainly not in the bigger games. The young lad Whittaker has shown more, playing out of position, than Tavares has so he should be our wide midfielder option if Boyle/Youan aren't performing. He also provides better cover for Miller in my view than Youan or Boyle.

I am fine to keep Tavares and if we could get him out on loan to a football playing team I would like to see how he came back, but to me I would not be risking him in the bigger games in the league just now or really expect him to do something to help us get a draw/max points against lower teams in the league.

[JammyDoidger]

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He was fine when he came on yesterday.

Fine isn't good enough. He never impacted the game which is what you want your subs to do. He was brought in on a decent wage, given the number 10 shirt, and has offered nowt. Doesn't work hard enough for me, he's bigger than likes of Boyle but doesn't get stuck in the way Boyle does for example.

[w pilton hibby]

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Fine isn't good enough. He never impacted the game which is what you want your subs to do. He was brought in on a decent wage, given the number 10 shirt, and has offered nowt. Doesn't work hard enough for me, he's bigger than likes of Boyle but doesn't get stuck in the way Boyle does for example.

How much is he getting paid?

[Since452]

He looks like he's running in sand sometimes.

[blackpoolhibs]

Does anyone want to see him in the first 11, or even see him come on as a sub, I don't he seriously weakens us in both options.

[Alfred E Newman]

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He looks like he's running in sand sometimes.

This place is nuts at times.

[Mick O'Rourke]

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He was fine when he came on yesterday.

Yes indeed .
Monty will know best of course on how players do in training sessions and his getting to know players strengths, etc
Jair would not be in the 1st team squad/on the bench,otherwise.
Monty, or someone on his staff will be casting an eye of those LJ sent out on loan.
I look forward to, from first impressions,Monty and his crew putting a real stamp on this squad.
I have high hopes on evidence so far and what regulars (well some !) who attend all games have been commenting on here.

[Malonga's Cat]

The whole situation has been very bizarre. #10 shirt, reported big wage but seemed out of his depth on the pitch. Then he struggles to get a game for the development team and disappears. I trust in the new manager if he's picking him and to be fair, he's still shown more in the last few weeks (although not much) than we seen under LJ.

[hibbydog]

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Some of the comments in here are absolutely mental.

Let’s just summarise;

Young lad, who’s English isn’t his first language, is heralded as one of the best young players we could’ve signed under a new regime

Is given #10 which is a number very fondly looked upon by our support

Starts against St Johnstone & Livingston, then is almost completely bombed out the squad

Returns for a few games on the bench, and is then never to be seen again

Squad goes abroad for pre season and is left back in Edinburgh

Barely even gets a mention for the dev squad.

New manager comes in, and gives the laddie a chance with 2 sub appearances & a start against one of the bogiest of bogie teams for us.

Hasn’t had anywhere near a stinker in the minutes played so far, which in his own estimation he probably would never have expected.

Give the laddie a ****ing break, you’re lucky if in over a year he’s played enough minutes combined to total even 10 games.

If by the end of the season his contribution is still null then by all means criticise but the way he was treated previously was nothing short of a disgrace and the laddie deserves all the support he can get to try and regain whatever confidence he had when he walked through the door last summer.

An outbreak of common sense!!

Whatever your opinion of the players ability, anyone wearing a Hibs strip gets my full support .

[basehibby]

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I just don't see how he contributes tbh..he doesn't seem to be able to go past players, isn't particularly quick, doesn't play incisive passes and doesn't really threaten to score or assist. He just makes up the numbers.



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Not so sure about the bit in bold - there was one passage on Sat when he showed a real burst of explosive pace to get by the fullback. Maybe needs to show more of it though as I agree he struggles to get meaningfully involved in games. It may come yet though - see Christian Doidge and Joe Newell for two examples of players that took time to settle before becoming very useful players at Hibs.