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    Good luck to the striking Unison workers today and well done. The abuse that some of their officials have taken online from those more interested in protecting the employer has been pretty disgusting.
    You don’t change sides depending on who that employer is. I hope they get plenty of support from everyone concerned at how workers have had to carry an unfair load for far too long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    Good luck to the striking Unison workers today and well done. The abuse that some of their officials have taken online from those more interested in protecting the employer has been pretty disgusting.
    You don’t change sides depending on who that employer is. I hope they get plenty of support from everyone concerned at how workers have had to carry an unfair load for far too long.
    I was in unison. My gripe is that the executive decided not to put it to the members, while Gmb and unite are. How do they know what the members want if they don't ask?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    Good luck to the striking Unison workers today and well done. The abuse that some of their officials have taken online from those more interested in protecting the employer has been pretty disgusting.
    You don’t change sides depending on who that employer is. I hope they get plenty of support from everyone concerned at how workers have had to carry an unfair load for far too long.
    Are unison working in their members best interests? If their members accept the offer then they have lost the best part of a weeks wages for nothing?


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    Any news on the police investigation into SNP finances ...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    I was in unison. My gripe is that the executive decided not to put it to the members, while Gmb and unite are. How do they know what the members want if they don't ask?
    I've not been following this. Have UNISON put the revised offer to their members? If so, what was the result?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    I've not been following this. Have UNISON put the revised offer to their members? If so, what was the result?
    They are putting to their members but results not back yet. Decided to strike anyway.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    I've not been following this. Have UNISON put the revised offer to their members? If so, what was the result?
    The Union membership voted overwhelmingly to strike in support of the demands being made. That action is being taken today.
    The COSLA offer fell short of what has been asked for so the democratically elected leadership are recommending the membership reject the deal and that will go to a digital ballot.
    In the meantime the fight goes on and today has seen the membership take to the picket lines in large numbers.
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    Seems to me that Tommy Sheppard is going to lose his court case v the UK Gov about the release of Gov polling on the union.

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    Good luck to the striking Unison workers today and well done. The abuse that some of their officials have taken online from those more interested in protecting the employer has been pretty disgusting.
    You don’t change sides depending on who that employer is. I hope they get plenty of support from everyone concerned at how workers have had to carry an unfair load for far too long.
    Had a few friends out on strike today. Their only motive was to get what they deserve.

    These supporting workers play a huge part in educating our children and deserve to be paid and appreciated accordingly. Some of the rhetoric when discussing them is really poor. It's a sad day when I see people I know whoa re self proclaimed socialists trotting out the worst kind of Thatcherite anti union cliches because they don't like who Tue unions are fighting in this instance.
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    Are unison working in their members best interests? If their members accept the offer then they have lost the best part of a weeks wages for nothing?


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    Unison members can apply for strike pay up to the value of £70. Shocking as it is that will represent the majority of a days pay for those on the 'living' wage of £10.42 an hour.

    It's a catch 22 really. When you are expected to live on £10.42 an hour you can't afford to strike but then you can't afford not to strike either when pay rises have been below inflation for years on end.
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-...kmdRGAWwqFe2cY


    A trial DRS including bottles is live and working in Wales. Right scottish government, roll it out as originally planned because there is the proof that if it works in one part of the 'uk' then it will work in all parts of the 'uk'.

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    Scotlands national poet one of dozens of people in the arts hitting out at Scottish government cut in arts funding

    https://twitter.com/KathleenJamie/st...41350126243952

    A petition fighting it has reached 12,000 signatures
    https://www.campaignforthearts.org/p...uts-reimposed/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Scotlands national poet one of dozens of people in the arts hitting out at Scottish government cut in arts funding
    I agree with her. Disappointed in SNP response here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Scotlands national poet one of dozens of people in the arts hitting out at Scottish government cut in arts funding

    https://twitter.com/KathleenJamie/st...41350126243952

    A petition fighting it has reached 12,000 signatures
    https://www.campaignforthearts.org/p...uts-reimposed/
    Signed. Hopefully the funding is restored and Angus Robertson resigns.
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    https://x.com/lewis_goodall/status/1...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

    How can NS get a fair hearing now? The PM has pronounced her guilty.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    How can NS get a fair hearing now? The PM has pronounced her guilty.


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    Doesn't he have two fines from the police in the last few years, unlike NS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    How can NS get a fair hearing now? The PM has pronounced her guilty.


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    Sunak said “ may go down “ . That’s hardly a pronouncement of guilt .

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    Sunak said “ may go down “ . That’s hardly a pronouncement of guilt .
    Sure, that makes it OK, although I'm sure Rishi appreciates the support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    Sure, that makes it OK, although I'm sure Rishi appreciates the support.

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    PF left in no doubt about what the PM wants from it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    PF left in no doubt about what the PM wants from it.


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    What is it again? Must be reeeaaaly bad for any politician in our free and wonderfully bestest nation to face stardy, given where the bar for non-investigation is set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    Sunak said “ may go down “ . That’s hardly a pronouncement of guilt .
    It was a really poor joke, the type that politicians of every party crack . Sad stuff. Anybody taking it seriously needs to give themselves a shake though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    How can NS get a fair hearing now? The PM has pronounced her guilty.


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    https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/sunak-reported-to-police-over-conference-speech-comments-360110/?fbclid=IwAR0mQ2XLceczRHEWq4Zb8W98eULr0tdQvsjYKDSV JLxZ61UtBFi7_4OyrEM


    This would be hilarious if found guilty.
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    Steven flynn getting in quick to say things need addressed

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    Stephen Flynn says SNP must confront 'the scale of challenge' it faces

    Stephen Flynn has called for a “full post mortem” into the SNP’s Rutherglen & Hamilton West by-election defeat, saying the party must be frank about the problems it faces.
    The SNP’s Westminster leader said it would be unwise “to try and downplay the scale of the challenge that faces us as a result of this”.

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-67021626

    Yet another 'toxic' green party proposal which has cross party support. Waiting on Westminster blocking it 😉

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-67021626

    Yet another 'toxic' green party proposal which has cross party support. Waiting on Westminster blocking it 😉
    Unlikely given we are the last UK nation to introduce this.
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    Cherry odds on to get bombed this year? Pretty much constantly against, think she likes the trappings too much to join Alba

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Cherry odds on to get bombed this year? Pretty much constantly against, think she likes the trappings too much to join Alba

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    She just needs to hang fire until Forbes is leader.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    She just needs to hang fire until Forbes is leader.
    I think it will be Flynn. He’s in the wrong parliament but I think if he stands he wins.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    I think it will be Flynn. He’s in the wrong parliament but I think if he stands he wins.


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    How does he do it. I assumed wrongly last time he could just jump. Does he not contend next GE then go for Scottish. Whatever it is I hope it can be done smoothly. I very reluctantly wanted Forbes as I thought she wins most votes, but they are words apart in competence and beliefs for what I want

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    One poll so useless on its own, only significant as its the lowest snp score in 9 years. It won't play out like that, but it's clear SNP haven't bottomed out in polls.

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    Scottish Westminster Voting Intention:

    SNP: 33% (-5)
    LAB: 32% (+5)
    CON: 20% (+4)
    LDM: 5% (-2)
    GRN: 5% (-1)
    RFM: 2% (-2)

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    My Seat Model (New Boundaries):

    LAB: 28 (+27)
    SNP: 17 (-31)
    CON: 8 (+2)
    LDM: 4 (+2)

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