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    We were in Los Argentinos steakhouse on NYE with another family, and there were a couple of young muscle bound dicks behind us, I didnt catch too much of the convo but my son was pissing himself laughing (at the guys behaviour) as one of them was sharing naked pics of some "bird that just keeps begging me for it so I let her have it now and then".

    I am glad I dont have girls.........

    I hope you had a stern word with your son.


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    We were in Los Argentinos steakhouse on NYE with another family, and there were a couple of young muscle bound dicks behind us, I didnt catch too much of the convo but my son was pissing himself laughing (at the guys behaviour) as one of them was sharing naked pics of some "bird that just keeps begging me for it so I let her have it now and then".

    I am glad I dont have girls.........
    I have both and hope boys dont have that view apon my daughter and I certainly be ensuring my boys dont treat women with lack of respect many young men seem too.
    I got a hard time for checking my sons snapchat recently amd im shocked at how many don't and some of the content others including girls were sharing and saying was shocking.

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    I’ve not heard or seen any of the material that apparently damns Greenwood, I understand it’s pretty shocking.

    I do think this a very awkward situation for Man Utd. Ultimately, he’s not guilty of any crime.

    I do also think that playing football for a living is a huge privilege, not a right. Any club are entitled to expect anyone who wears their shirt to represent good values and maybe they will sack him. However, there’s a big financial implication to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacomo View Post
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    I’ve not heard or seen any of the material that apparently damns Greenwood, I understand it’s pretty shocking.

    I do think this a very awkward situation for Man Utd. Ultimately, he’s not guilty of any crime.

    I do also think that playing football for a living is a huge privilege, not a right. Any club are entitled to expect anyone who wears their shirt to represent good values and maybe they will sack him. However, there’s a big financial implication to that.
    Good phrase to use there, a privilege not a right. Like many, I don’t think he should be able to play football again. Even though he’s very young I’ve no doubt he’ll have already made enough money to never have to work again. Don’t think he should be given the chance to make anymore

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    Her parents have let her down so badly. She is a very public victim of abuse and probably all sorts of manipulation. Her dad actually came out and downplayed it.

    I hope she can escape his clutches and realise how horrible and unhealthy that relationship is. Harder to do that when the kid is born. Hopefully he doesn't abuse the child like he did her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacomo View Post
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    I’ve not heard or seen any of the material that apparently damns Greenwood, I understand it’s pretty shocking.

    I do think this a very awkward situation for Man Utd. Ultimately, he’s not guilty of any crime.

    I do also think that playing football for a living is a huge privilege, not a right. Any club are entitled to expect anyone who wears their shirt to represent good values and maybe they will sack him. However, there’s a big financial implication to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacomo View Post
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    I’ve not heard or seen any of the material that apparently damns Greenwood, I understand it’s pretty shocking.

    I do think this a very awkward situation for Man Utd. Ultimately, he’s not guilty of any crime.

    I do also think that playing football for a living is a huge privilege, not a right. Any club are entitled to expect anyone who wears their shirt to represent good values and maybe they will sack him. However, there’s a big financial implication to that.
    The small clips we have seen and heard are enough to show the guy is an utter detestable piece of ****. If Man United allow him back into the team then i can see a huge backlash on them and rightly so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    Her parents have let her down so badly. She is a very public victim of abuse and probably all sorts of manipulation. Her dad actually came out and downplayed it.

    I hope she can escape his clutches and realise how horrible and unhealthy that relationship is. Harder to do that when the kid is born. Hopefully he doesn't abuse the child like he did her.

    That’s a shocker.

    Wonder if her dad is more interested in getting close to a wealthy footballer or the welfare of his own daughter?

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    That’s a shocker.

    Wonder if her dad is more interested in getting close to a wealthy footballer or the welfare of his own daughter?
    Or the even more worrying implication that he’s doesn’t see anything wrong with what went on.

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    Or the even more worrying implication that he’s doesn’t see anything wrong with what went on.

    Unfortunately she'll think she was a contributing factor to the abuse, it'll be a case of sorry for making you angry Mason, I deserved that slap. Watched enough of these type of programmes where the victim can't see the abuse due to being in love with the abuser and always feels it's their fault they get slapped about. It's how abusers control their victims, by playing the guilt card, shame really as with a kid on the way she's now tied into the relationship and if she accuses him again, no one will believe her due to what's just happened.

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    Unfortunately she'll think she was a contributing factor to the abuse, it'll be a case of sorry for making you angry Mason, I deserved that slap. Watched enough of these type of programmes where the victim can't see the abuse due to being in love with the abuser and always feels it's their fault they get slapped about. It's how abusers control their victims, by playing the guilt card, shame really as with a kid on the way she's now tied into the relationship and if she accuses him again, no one will believe her due to what's just happened.
    I doubt that very much, everyone to a man/woman/this/it are saying he's guilty, if it happens again i'm pretty sure they will all agree he's guilty again.

    The big difference then will be folk saying she was stupid for going back to him knowing what he's like, a leopard and his spots and all that.

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    Talktv reporting that the charges against him have been dropped.
    Thought this was gonna be a thread about the ref of today's Glasgow2 Cup Final - no seriously...!

    Forgot about what seems to be some pretty abhorrent behaviour if true.

    As the father of 2 boys what I can do is set the example of how to respect women. This does affect us all. ****ty behaviour needs called out.
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    Guys a ****bag. We've all heard the recording the lassie took and its obvious whats going on. Also, the fact that the lassie has taken him back and is now pregnant with his child tells you all you need to know. Not a chance in hell would he still be with her if she made false allegations against him which have ruined his career and life.

    Would be PR suicide for Man Utd to keep him and for any club to want to sign him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    Her parents have let her down so badly. She is a very public victim of abuse and probably all sorts of manipulation. Her dad actually came out and downplayed it.

    I hope she can escape his clutches and realise how horrible and unhealthy that relationship is. Harder to do that when the kid is born. Hopefully he doesn't abuse the child like he did her.
    The statement from her dad after the audio clip was released was shocking! Its abundantly clear he couldn't care less if he's abusive to his daughter as long as she's with someone who can give her (and probably her family) a millionaires lifestyle. Disguising really.

    If it was my daughter i wouldn't give a monkeys how rich or famous he was I'd never want him near her ever again!

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    Looking like he is back in Utd plans as being reported that Adidas have given him and Utd the go ahead. (Although goes to show how messed up football is when its Adidas calling the shots here).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DH1875 View Post
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    Looking like he is back in Utd plans as being reported that Adidas have given him and Utd the go ahead. (Although goes to show how messed up football is when its Adidas calling the shots here).
    Money, money, money,

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    Quote Originally Posted by DH1875 View Post
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    Looking like he is back in Utd plans as being reported that Adidas have given him and Utd the go ahead. (Although goes to show how messed up football is when its Adidas calling the shots here).
    You may not agree with his actions but his girlfriend didn't press charges and they're still together, so technically not a criminal, just no a nice person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-C View Post
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    You may not agree with his actions but his girlfriend didn't press charges and they're still together, so technically not a criminal, just no a nice person.
    I think they are also now engaged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-C View Post
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    You may not agree with his actions but his girlfriend didn't press charges and they're still together, so technically not a criminal, just no a nice person.
    Unfortunately that’s the nature of domestic abuse sometimes, especially when the perpetrator provides a lifestyle that the victim couldn’t afford without them.

    It’s still disgusting behaviour and it’s still criminal. Not being convicted with a crime doesn’t change the fact that a crime was committed.

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    Unfortunately that’s the nature of domestic abuse sometimes, especially when the perpetrator provides a lifestyle that the victim couldn’t afford without them.

    It’s still disgusting behaviour and it’s still criminal. Not being convicted with a crime doesn’t change the fact that a crime was committed.
    Yup. **** him.

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    I wonder if any politicians have anything to say about this seeing as he’s been convicted with the same number of crimes as David Goodwillie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21.05.2016 View Post
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    The statement from her dad after the audio clip was released was shocking! Its abundantly clear he couldn't care less if he's abusive to his daughter as long as she's with someone who can give her (and probably her family) a millionaires lifestyle. Disguising really.

    If it was my daughter i wouldn't give a monkeys how rich or famous he was I'd never want him near her ever again!
    Your last bit is spot on.

    Tbh anyone abusing either of my daughters like that better be man enough to have a go at me in the same manner.

    Disgusting human being

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    I wonder if any politicians have anything to say about this seeing as he’s been convicted with the same number of crimes as David Goodwillie.
    Goodwillie can't even play in the 9th tier of Scottish football. Greenwood is making £75k per week and could well be back in Manchester Utd first team squad anytime soon.

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    Goodwillie can't even play in the 9th tier of Scottish football. Greenwood is making £75k per week and could well be back in Manchester Utd first team squad anytime soon.
    Mason Greenwood: Rachel Riley accuses Man Utd of 'gaslighting' - BBC Sport

    Clearly this week's news means he won't be back in the Man U first team squad any time soon. Whole thing has clearly been badly handled, although a question that seems to go unanswered is what do campaigners WANT to see happen to the player now? He hasn't (technically) been found guilty of anything in a court of law so what is the appropriate way forward? If it's felt he should never kick a ball again what would be acceptable for him to do? Whatever anyone's personal opinion of him there must surely be some process/structure for rehabilitation? Should United have shouldered more of the responsibility for that rehabilitation?

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    Mason Greenwood: Rachel Riley accuses Man Utd of 'gaslighting' - BBC Sport

    Clearly this week's news means he won't be back in the Man U first team squad any time soon. Whole thing has clearly been badly handled, although a question that seems to go unanswered is what do campaigners WANT to see happen to the player now? He hasn't (technically) been found guilty of anything in a court of law so what is the appropriate way forward? If it's felt he should never kick a ball again what would be acceptable for him to do? Whatever anyone's personal opinion of him there must surely be some process/structure for rehabilitation? Should United have shouldered more of the responsibility for that rehabilitation?
    He won’t be back in the United team at all since they are getting rid permanently and they owe him absolutely nothing.

    Despite handling it extremely poorly, i’m glad United finally made the right call.

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    Any reason why this is on this forum?

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    Any reason why this is on this forum?
    Think it should be on the deadline day thread?

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    He won’t be back in the United team at all since they are getting rid permanently and they owe him absolutely nothing.

    Despite handling it extremely poorly, i’m glad United finally made the right call.
    I know, I was responding to a post from a time when it looked like they might be hoping to reintroduce him to the team.

    United's statement pretty much absolves him of any of the behaviour he was accused of so if that's the stance they're taking I'd suggest they owe him more than casting him adrift. Having played such a huge part in his life since the age of 7 you wonder what kind of values they instilled in him. Or was he just a potentially multi-million pound asset?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs View Post
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    Think it should be on the deadline day thread?
    I’d put it in the bin tbh. Nothing good will come of this 😂

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