SNP are lying b******s as well !

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You'll know better than me, but some of the replies from auditors saying it's unusual have to sign off with missing records

Ta.

I wonder if any of these commentators have seen the full audit report, rather than the edited highlights that have been published so far. I was never the world's best auditor, but I always knew to wait until I had the full picture before expressing an opinion.

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Ta.

I wonder if any of these commentators have seen the full audit report, rather than the edited highlights that have been published so far. I was never the world's best auditor, but I always knew to wait until I had the full picture before expressing an opinion.

Perhaps not tbf. Kevin Hague is definitely not objective, he's head of an anti independence group

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Wrong year.

Was there a time limit on donations? It's yet to be explained where (or when) the funds raised went, other than vague allusions to them being 'woven through' the accounts.

Whatever, this latest development echoes the 'lack of transparency' over finances that saw Chapman and Cherry quit their roles.

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Was there a time limit on donations? It's yet to be explained where (or when) the funds raised went, other than vague allusions to them being 'woven through' the accounts.

Whatever, this latest development echoes the 'lack of transparency' over finances that saw Chapman and Cherry quit their roles.

Does it?

I haven't seen the full audit report, so can't say.

[marinello59]

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Was there a time limit on donations? It's yet to be explained where (or when) the funds raised went, other than vague allusions to them being 'woven through' the accounts.

Whatever, this latest development echoes the 'lack of transparency' over finances that saw Chapman and Cherry quit their roles.

Criminality or not , and I’m assuming not, should we really be trusting a Party to run the country when running their own affairs has been a bit of a challenge.

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The point of qualification on the accounts reads: “During the course of our audit, we identified that original documentation in respect to some items of cash and cheques received for the current and prior year, relating to membership, donations and raffle income were not kept by the party.


“We have been unable to satisfy ourselves by alternative means regarding the completeness of income in respect of the above limitation in scope.

“Consequently we are unable to determine whether any adjustment to income is necessary in the current or prior year and the potential impact on opening reserves accordingly.”

From the SNP’s auditors…yeah sounds like one misplaced branch meat raffle receipt.

That's the wording of an uncertainty/disclaimer qualification - i.e. the auditors cannot establish whether the accounts show a true and fair view or not. As CWG says we should probably wait to see the full report but the auditors would not use those words lightly, nor would they say anything if they didn't think the potential error was material. It's certainly potentially a lot more than missing raffle receipts but it's rather a 'how long is a piece of string' scenario which is why the report will be uncertainty rather than disagreement (i.e. the accounts do not show a true and fair view).

The second quote implies that the problem lies (at least in part) with the previous year's accounts which I think was the year involving the controversial £600k. Whether it's down to bad bookkeeping or something more sinister, it's really not a good look for the party.

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That's the wording of an uncertainty/disclaimer qualification - i.e. the auditors cannot establish whether the accounts show a true and fair view or not. As CWG says we should probably wait to see the full report but the auditors would not use those words lightly, nor would they say anything if they didn't think the potential error was material. It's certainly potentially a lot more than missing raffle receipts but it's rather a 'how long is a piece of string' scenario which is why the report will be uncertainty rather than disagreement (i.e. the accounts do not show a true and fair view).

The second quote implies that the problem lies (at least in part) with the previous year's accounts which I think was the year involving the controversial £600k. Whether it's down to bad bookkeeping or something more sinister, it's really not a good look for the party.

Uh oh.

Mind you, I think just about ANY firm of auditors would want to caveat their report into SNP finances at the moment if only as a kind of 'don't blame us' insurance policy against whatever develops next. Either way, a party of government probably doesn't really want a report on it's finances and how they have been managed and accounted for that essentially says 'could be fine, could be *****' .

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Uh oh.

Mind you, I think just about ANY firm of auditors would want to caveat their report into SNP finances at the moment if only as a kind of 'don't blame us' insurance policy against whatever develops next. Either way, a party of government probably doesn't really want a report on it's finances and how they have been managed and accounted for that essentially says 'could be fine, could be *****' .

Indeed. I accidentally deleted a comment about the auditors being ultra careful this year because of the publicity. Under normal circumstances the auditors would probably not use that wording unless they were almost certain something was wrong but they might well just be covering their own backs in this case.

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Blame who? Deflect what? What’s the accusation? That the party lost a receipt for the meat tray at a branch raffle?


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Missing meat tray at a branch raffle and I get accused of Hyperbole 🙄

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Missing meat tray at a branch raffle and I get accused of Hyperbole

What is your specific allegation?


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What is your specific allegation?


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You’re stating that the SNPs account were filed Qualified due to a missing branch meat raffle receipt. I am suggesting after the auditors statement it’s a lot more.

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Scot Gov own report pretty scathing on its performance with regards to engagement with business.

I find it odd that a government can think it can legislate without business input, and indeed seemingly go out of their way to avoid it. It’s like they haven’t actually understood at a very basic level how it’s economy functions.

On the plus side I suppose better late than never n all that but probably won’t feature too highly in the ‘legacy library’

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-66063011.amp

[Ozyhibby]

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You’re stating that the SNPs account were filed Qualified due to a missing branch meat raffle receipt. I am suggesting after the auditors statement it’s a lot more.

You don’t know that though, do you?


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You don’t know that though, do you?


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Nope, hence the word ‘suggesting’ ….

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Nope, hence the word ‘suggesting’ ….

And the point of ‘suggesting’ things you don’t know?


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And the point of ‘suggesting’ things you don’t know?


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But you obviously do, as you stated it’s just a branch meat raffle receipt …time will tell

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But you obviously do, as you stated it’s just a branch meat raffle receipt …time will tell

I doubt time will ever tell in this case. It will remain a note on the accounts and never come up again probably.


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That's the wording of an uncertainty/disclaimer qualification - i.e. the auditors cannot establish whether the accounts show a true and fair view or not. As CWG says we should probably wait to see the full report but the auditors would not use those words lightly, nor would they say anything if they didn't think the potential error was material. It's certainly potentially a lot more than missing raffle receipts but it's rather a 'how long is a piece of string' scenario which is why the report will be uncertainty rather than disagreement (i.e. the accounts do not show a true and fair view).

The second quote implies that the problem lies (at least in part) with the previous year's accounts which I think was the year involving the controversial £600k. Whether it's down to bad bookkeeping or something more sinister, it's really not a good look for the party.

Could also relate to the lies around the membership numbers which led to Murrell and Foote resigning.

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I doubt time will ever tell in this case. It will remain a note on the accounts and never come up again probably.


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Unless there is evidence of criminality rather than just SNP incompetence

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Such a lucky coincidence for the SG that the stories about the ferry costs continuing to soar and the missing documentation in the SNP accounts broke the day Holyrood entered its summer recess...

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And the point of ‘suggesting’ things you don’t know?


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All those smoking gun suggestions that have thus far turned out to be at best hyperbole. You'd think they'd have learnt to wait on the full story emerging before they start getting the Daffy Duck memes out.

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You’re stating that the SNPs account were filed Qualified due to a missing branch meat raffle receipt. I am suggesting after the auditors statement it’s a lot more.

I'm assuming this isn't actually specified in the auditors' statement? Bizarre if so.

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Ferries report tells us so much about how mediocre Scotland is run | HeraldScotland

I know SNP-minded folk simply dismiss such opinion pieces as irrelevant when written by the likes of Wilson, but it's hard to disagree with anything here.

Worth a wee wager that the ferries contracted to the Turkish shipyard will be ready before the ones at Ferguson?

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I know SNP-minded folk simply dismiss such opinion pieces as irrelevant when written by the likes of Wilson, but it's hard to disagree with anything here.

I found it quite easy, tbh..

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You don’t know that though, do you?


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What we do know is that the party of government is being investigated by the police, with its most senior members having been detained for questioning. The investigation continues.

And what we do know is that the party of government had to replace its auditors, and that their new ones could not give them a clean bill of health.

And what we do know is that the party of government’s policy commitments, flagship commitments, are failing to be met. Sturgeon’s resignation speech talked about how close the Promise was to her heart and how it was a national mission. The Oversight Board for the Promise have just said that it is not going to be kept in time, and laid the blame firmly at the feet of the Scottish Government.

The main stories are about whether and how much sleaze there is at the heart of the party of government. There isn’t space to highlight the party of government failing its promise to the most disadvantaged children in our society.

Just like the Tories in Westminster, the SNP have forgotten they are here to serve the people. The stench of entitlement and failure is overwhelming.

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We know nothing other than what we read in the press. Whether you believe what you read in the press is a matter for you to decide.

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What we do know is that the party of government is being investigated by the police, with its most senior members having been detained for questioning. The investigation continues.

And what we do know is that the party of government had to replace its auditors, and that their new ones could not give them a clean bill of health.

And what we do know is that the party of government’s policy commitments, flagship commitments, are failing to be met. Sturgeon’s resignation speech talked about how close the Promise was to her heart and how it was a national mission. The Oversight Board for the Promise have just said that it is not going to be kept in time, and laid the blame firmly at the feet of the Scottish Government.

The main stories are about whether and how much sleaze there is at the heart of the party of government. There isn’t space to highlight the party of government failing its promise to the most disadvantaged children in our society.

Just like the Tories in Westminster, the SNP have forgotten they are here to serve the people. The stench of entitlement and failure is overwhelming.

Jeezo, imagine consistently losing elections to that lot.


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Jeezo, imagine consistently losing elections to that lot.


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The cause trumps all for a solid percentage of voters. Sadly it’s now the lost cause.

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The cause trumps all for a solid percentage of voters. Sadly it’s now the lost cause.

It's not. Not by a long way. Its what the media and unionists want you to think. Its far from a lost cause

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Jeezo, imagine consistently losing elections to that lot.


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It just highlights the true nature of the problem.

This shower are not fit to run a bath, let alone a government.

But they tell Indy supporters they will deliver Indy. So they hoover up their votes.

And they don’t deliver Indy and are truly incompetent in government.

Was it not this time last year, Sturgeon was saying we would be having a referendum this October? And was it not this time last year that we passed the half million mark for the number of times the Scottish Government broke its own law about when patients would receive treatment?

Cant deliver Indy, can’t deliver good government.

What is the point of them?