Missing submersible

[lapsedhibee]

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My Dad was a sailor. I remember him telling me that more sailors drowned on their own vomit after a night out than actually drowned at sea.

Never quite got to the bottom of whether that is truth or a salty sea story.

Was it perhaps part of a wider strategy by your dad to warn you off the amber nectar?

[Sergio sledge]

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Think crocodiles are fresh water, so you're not getting that one. Even including the death by vomit after a night out, I don't think we're past ten yet, so still 90 or so to go.

Dehydration?

[DH1875]

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Think crocodiles are fresh water, so you're not getting that one. Even including the death by vomit after a night out, I don't think we're past ten yet, so still 90 or so to go.

Saltwater crocodile? They admittedly don't live in the ocean as need to be near land but they can swim in it.

[Bostonhibby]

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Think crocodiles are fresh water, so you're not getting that one. Even including the death by vomit after a night out, I don't think we're past ten yet, so still 90 or so to go.

How many life threatening viruses, chemicals and bacteria are our water companies, along with others, dumping into the seas?

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[lapsedhibee]

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Dehydration?

Ok 'marooned' in one way or another.

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Saltwater crocodile? They admittedly don't live in the ocean as need to be near land but they can swim in it.

Ok. Saltwater crocodiles who've lost their way, sharks, things that have killed Steve Irwin at one time or another, being swallowed by a whale = 'sea monsters'

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How many life threatening viruses, chemicals and bacteria are our water companies, along with others, dumping into the seas?

I don't know but even if you can name them all that's only counting as one thing, 'invisible sea monsters'.

Still eighty-odd to go.

[Bostonhibby]

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Ok 'marooned' in one way or another.


Ok. Saltwater crocodiles who've lost their way, sharks, things that have killed Steve Irwin at one time or another, being swallowed by a whale = 'sea monsters'


I don't know but even if you can name them all that's only counting as one thing, 'invisible sea monsters'.

Still eighty-odd to go.

fair point.

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[Since90+2]

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Think crocodiles are fresh water, so you're not getting that one. Even including the death by vomit after a night out, I don't think we're past ten yet, so still 90 or so to go.

I think you're taking this a bit literally.

[Smartie]

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Ok 'marooned' in one way or another.


Ok. Saltwater crocodiles who've lost their way, sharks, things that have killed Steve Irwin at one time or another, being swallowed by a whale = 'sea monsters'


I don't know but even if you can name them all that's only counting as one thing, 'invisible sea monsters'.

Still eighty-odd to go.

I admire the truly pedantic way you're not letting this go.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Ok 'marooned' in one way or another.


Ok. Saltwater crocodiles who've lost their way, sharks, things that have killed Steve Irwin at one time or another, being swallowed by a whale = 'sea monsters'


I don't know but even if you can name them all that's only counting as one thing, 'invisible sea monsters'.

Still eighty-odd to go.

Seduced by any one of:-

Sirens

Mermaids

Selkies

[grunt]

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Seduced by ... Sirens

Manchester Art Gallery

[lapsedhibee]

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I think you're taking this a bit literally.

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I admire the truly pedantic way you're not letting this go.

Old Sailors, like Old Etonians, should be held to account if they make exaggerated claims. Otherwise we're at the thin end of a slippery slope to a post-truth society.

[Hibrandenburg]

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Think crocodiles are fresh water, so you're not getting that one. Even including the death by vomit after a night out, I don't think we're past ten yet, so still 90 or so to go.

The most dangerous crocodiles are seawater crocs. They're certainly the biggest.

[HH81]

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The most dangerous crocodiles are seawater crocs. They're certainly the biggest.

Yep salties are defo the most aggressive.

You don't want to be anywhere near them.

[lapsedhibee]

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Yep salties are defo the most aggressive.

You don't want to be anywhere near them.

It's why Newhaven fishwives used to carry their husbands out to the boats, so the menfolk didn't get bitten.

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[Callum_62]

Not to be too graphic

Catastrophic Implosion of a submersible explained:

When a submarine hull collapses, it moves inward at about 1,500 miles per hour - that’s 2,200 feet per second.

The time required for complete collapse is 20 / 2,200 seconds = about 1 millisecond.

A human brain responds instinctually to stimulus at about 25 milliseconds. Human rational response (sense→reason→act) is at best 150 milliseconds.

The air inside a sub has a fairly high concentration of hydrocarbon vapors.

When the hull collapses it behaves like a very large piston on a very large Diesel engine.

The air auto-ignites and an explosion follows the initial rapid implosion. Large blobs of fat (that would be humans) incinerate and are turned to ash and dust quicker than you can blink your eye.

Yikes.

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[Scouse Hibee]

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Not to be too graphic

Catastrophic Implosion of a submersible explained:

When a submarine hull collapses, it moves inward at about 1,500 miles per hour - that’s 2,200 feet per second.

The time required for complete collapse is 20 / 2,200 seconds = about 1 millisecond.

A human brain responds instinctually to stimulus at about 25 milliseconds. Human rational response (sense→reason→act) is at best 150 milliseconds.

The air inside a sub has a fairly high concentration of hydrocarbon vapors.

When the hull collapses it behaves like a very large piston on a very large Diesel engine.

The air auto-ignites and an explosion follows the initial rapid implosion. Large blobs of fat (that would be humans) incinerate and are turned to ash and dust quicker than you can blink your eye.

Yikes.

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That’s pretty horrific but at least they would have known nothing about it.

[McSwanky]

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I have a lot of time for this man

https://twitter.com/Tzipshmil/status...967662595?s=20

The point seems pretty inarguable, doesn't it? I would hope the vast majority of people would agree.

[Hibernia&Alba]

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Not to be too graphic

Catastrophic Implosion of a submersible explained:

When a submarine hull collapses, it moves inward at about 1,500 miles per hour - that’s 2,200 feet per second.

The time required for complete collapse is 20 / 2,200 seconds = about 1 millisecond.

A human brain responds instinctually to stimulus at about 25 milliseconds. Human rational response (sense→reason→act) is at best 150 milliseconds.

The air inside a sub has a fairly high concentration of hydrocarbon vapors.

When the hull collapses it behaves like a very large piston on a very large Diesel engine.

The air auto-ignites and an explosion follows the initial rapid implosion. Large blobs of fat (that would be humans) incinerate and are turned to ash and dust quicker than you can blink your eye.

Yikes.

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At least they didn't know anything about it, which has to be better than slowly running out of oxygen.

What about permission for that death-trap to be near the titanic, and did it have safety certificates? It sounds like it was a tragedy waiting to happen, completely unsuitable to be down there.

[s.a.m]

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Not to be too graphic

Catastrophic Implosion of a submersible explained:

When a submarine hull collapses, it moves inward at about 1,500 miles per hour - that’s 2,200 feet per second.

The time required for complete collapse is 20 / 2,200 seconds = about 1 millisecond.

A human brain responds instinctually to stimulus at about 25 milliseconds. Human rational response (sense→reason→act) is at best 150 milliseconds.

The air inside a sub has a fairly high concentration of hydrocarbon vapors.

When the hull collapses it behaves like a very large piston on a very large Diesel engine.

The air auto-ignites and an explosion follows the initial rapid implosion. Large blobs of fat (that would be humans) incinerate and are turned to ash and dust quicker than you can blink your eye.

Yikes.

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That sounds terrifying, but mercifully and thankfully quick.




[Also ... whirlpools...]
[And the Bermuda Triangle, if we're getting into mythical options.]

[lapsedhibee]

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[Also ... whirlpools...]

That's just drowning again

[And the Bermuda Triangle.]

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[danhibees1875]

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That's just drowning again


#14

Have we had killed by pirates?

Swalled by a Whale?

[CropleyWasGod]

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Have we had killed by pirates?

Swalled by a Whale?

Becalming.

Scurvy.

Walking the plank and hitting the plank on the way down, sustaining a fatal head wound.

[stu in nottingham]

Such a very sad outcome, especially the young man of 19 years who had most of his life ahead of him.

Without trivialising the subject and with respects to the gentleman on the thread who is an ex-mariner and indeed my own father who was a Merchant Seaman, there are so very many ways. A quick think and a browse gave me the below. I think the seafarers make a good point.

My dad would have added German torpedos, which he somehow miraculously managed to survive.

Electrocution - electricity passes through salt water way quicker than fresh water. Particularly dangerous in the presence of lightning bolts

Capsizing

Sand bars

Icebergs (ahem)

Being hit by other boats

The bends (decompression sickness)

Getting lost at sea

Dehydration

Diving accidents (powerful currents/stuck in a cave etc.)

There are numerous boats every year that explode

Trawler accident

Tsunamis

Toxic algae

Riptides

Debris in the sea

Sand holes

Injuries from coral

Polluted water

Failure of equipment

Starvation

[Hibbyradge]

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Think crocodiles are fresh water, so you're not getting that one. Even including the death by vomit after a night out, I don't think we're past ten yet, so still 90 or so to go.

Crocodylus porosus,

We'll get there.

[Hibbyradge]

Having a really scary daydream on a lilo and suffering a massive coronary.

The box jellyfish is an absolute c***.

Those things that looks like rocks but kill you if you stand on them.

Being eaten by the lion in the Life of Pi. Or was it a tiger? (It was.)

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

The background to this sorry story seems to be unravelling quickly and publicly.

[Hibby70]

Talking about jellyfish reminds me of a time I heard a lad shout to his dad he'd been stung by a jellyfish on a beach in Majorca.

His dad responded by saying "just pit a doakin leaf oan it".

Have a guess what football top the dad was wearing.

[Bostonhibby]

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I have a lot of time for this man

https://twitter.com/Tzipshmil/status...967662595?s=20

I've been around a long time and whilst he doesn't tick all my socialist boxes he is the best human being ever to take up politics in my life time.

Class is permanent

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[Just Alf]

Sorry.......



https://twitter.com/JroRob/status/16...k0VH8rYzQ&s=19

[grunt]

This man was in charge of the UK response to Covid. And this is his take on the submersible ...