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    Quote Originally Posted by Jones28 View Post
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    That’s a sensational headline.

    And also, how the **** can it be true?
    According to the London School of Economics, Scotland has more installed tidal capacity than the rest of the world combined.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Curried View Post
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    I'm not clear on how they have come up with this number, but the article is clearly bollocks, as the Australian State Pension for the poorest in society is currently $523/week. That's about 285 quid a week or 100 quid (>50%) a week more than the UK State pension listed in the table!!!
    It's not the article that is making the numbers, it's the OECD that people are also using above my post to quote uk figures.

    Here's the OECD data, they QUOTE high cost of living in Australia
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.oecd.org/australia/PAG2019-AUS.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwidg7D6w9b_AhXb1TgGHa9fCisQFnoEC AUQBg&usg=AOvVaw3sBdaOdgtl39JE9hrL8rOy

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    Quote Originally Posted by HarpOnHibee View Post
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    According to the London School of Economics, Scotland has more installed tidal capacity than the rest of the world combined.
    Read it on phone, thanks for explaining!
    "...when Hibs won the Scottish Cup final and that celebration, Sunshine on Leith? I don’t think there’s a better football celebration ever in the game.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    It's not the article that is making the numbers, it's the OECD that people are also using above my post to quote uk figures.

    Here's the OECD data, they QUOTE high cost of living in Australia
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...tl39JE9hrL8rOy
    Cheers for the link.
    I'm still not clear on how they calculate "Old-Age Poverty", but it appears from one of the graphs given that this metric is almost twice as high in Korea as it is in Australia or the US!

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    https://news.stv.tv/politics/winnie-...utm_source=app

    A sad loss.


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    RIP Winnie



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    https://news.stv.tv/politics/winnie-...utm_source=app

    A sad loss.


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    Certainly the poitician of her generation. What a life lived.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    https://news.stv.tv/politics/winnie-...utm_source=app

    A sad loss.


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    That’s sad news. A thoroughly decent politician respected by people no matter where their own political allegiance lay.
    RIP
    Every gimmick hungry yob,
    Digging gold from rock and roll
    Grabs the mic to tell us,
    He'll die before he's sold.

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...BCScotlandNews

    Another decision made in London opposed by almost all in Scotland? I can’t think of any group who would be in favour of this?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...BCScotlandNews

    Another decision made in London opposed by almost all in Scotland? I can’t think of any group who would be in favour of this?


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    "We were not consulted on this" basically sums up how Westminster treats Holyrood in general. They demand that Holyrood consult Westminster over devolved matters, so they can then decide whether it's acceptable or not. But when it comes to reserved matters, they plow straight ahead with no word of warning, regardless of the economic, social or ethical impacts on Scotland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...BCScotlandNews

    Another decision made in London opposed by almost all in Scotland? I can’t think of any group who would be in favour of this?


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    We need to do something. If we can make a better fist of housing refugees than they are in England (food, mingin hotels etc) then I think this could be a start.

    The lack of consultation is poor.
    "...when Hibs won the Scottish Cup final and that celebration, Sunshine on Leith? I don’t think there’s a better football celebration ever in the game.”

    Sir Alex Ferguson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...BCScotlandNews

    Another decision made in London opposed by almost all in Scotland? I can’t think of any group who would be in favour of this?


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    Am I the only one seeing an opportunity for Hibs here?

    Do something in support of asylum seekers, which fits well with our founding ethos.

    Highlighting it in a way that shows the Tories up would be even better.
    There's only one thing better than a Hibs calendar and that's two Hibs calendars

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye View Post
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    Am I the only one seeing an opportunity for Hibs here?

    Do something in support of asylum seekers, which fits well with our founding ethos.

    Highlighting it in a way that shows the Tories up would be even better.
    What’s needed is a couple of thousand empty houses. Mind you, the way interest rates are going, we might soon have that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    What’s needed is a couple of thousand empty houses. Mind you, the way interest rates are going, we might soon have that.


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    Ooft. The Daily Mail and the Daily Express would have to switch to A2 front pages, to fit their headline in.

    Mortgages, illegal asylum seekers swamping our villages, property prices.....all they would need is a way of including Harry and Meghan.
    There's only one thing better than a Hibs calendar and that's two Hibs calendars

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    https://twitter.com/celebs4indy/stat...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

    New Yes favourable poll.


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    Yousaf heckled by someone during his speech in Dundee. Looked like he did his best to handle it going to speak to the lady, but she seemed in a bit of a state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skol View Post
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    Yousaf heckled by someone during his speech in Dundee. Looked like he did his best to handle it going to speak to the lady, but she seemed in a bit of a state.
    Thought he handled it really well. Think she was protesting the recent medical scandal.


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    https://twitter.com/pjwoodside/statu...dxJXScFNwz8V4A


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Telegraph is behind a paywall is it not so unless you subscribe or but the paper you won’t see the story anyway.

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    Telegraph is behind a paywall is it not so unless you subscribe or but the paper you won’t see the story anyway.
    You won’t see it if you buy the paper in Scotland I think is the point being made?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    You won’t see it if you buy the paper in Scotland I think is the point being made?


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    The Telegraph, just like the Mail and Express are notorious for printing conflicting headlines depending on what side of the border they are presenting their paper to. It's almost like a running joke to them, that many don't seem to notice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    You won’t see it if you buy the paper in Scotland I think is the point being made?


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    Which is the same thing. And I suspect not many are bought in Scotland anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HarpOnHibee View Post
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    The Telegraph, just like the Mail and Express are notorious for printing conflicting headlines depending on what side of the border they are presenting their paper to. It's almost like a running joke to them, that many don't seem to notice.
    I have never bought any of the three, so wouldn’t notice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skol View Post
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    I have never bought any of the three, so wouldn’t notice.
    Neither have I. But it's easy enough to find examples of this online with a search. Here's an example:

    April 22, 2014

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    Quote Originally Posted by HarpOnHibee View Post
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    Neither have I. But it's easy enough to find examples of this online with a search. Here's an example:

    April 22, 2014
    I doubt I have even googled them either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skol View Post
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    I doubt I have even googled them either.
    Point still stands though surely?

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    The Telegraph, just like the Mail and Express are notorious for printing conflicting headlines depending on what side of the border they are presenting their paper to. It's almost like a running joke to them, that many don't seem to notice.
    The Sun does it too. For example in 2015 supporting the SNP in Scotland and the Tories in England. https://www.theguardian.com/politics...tories-slammed

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie View Post
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    The Sun does it too. For example in 2015 supporting the SNP in Scotland and the Tories in England. https://www.theguardian.com/politics...tories-slammed
    The SNP don't stand in England though. So it wouldn't make sense for them to support the SNP in England as well. The Daily Express supports a 'UK economic doomsday' narrative in England and a 'prosperous union' narrative in Scotland. Despite being the same union.

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    The SNP don't stand in England though. So it wouldn't make sense for them to support the SNP in England as well. The Daily Express supports a 'UK economic doomsday' narrative in England and a 'prosperous union' narrative in Scotland. Despite being the same union.
    'Doesn't 'make sense how? They could support the Tories in Scotland. I suspect one reason will be to maximise the anti Labour vote across the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Alf View Post
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    Point still stands though surely?
    Not really as it’s not the big deal you would like it to be. Only likely to be seen by people who hold those views anyway. Or those looking for a grievance

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