Scottish Independence

***marinello59*** · 05-05-2023 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by weecounty hibby

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If I didn't know any better I'd say that the daily ranger has swapped sides. The last couple of front pages haven't been a good look for the polis or PF. Wonder if they've had a heads up that this contrived circus is heading nowhere?

Or maybe they are just continuing to write about what has been served on a plate to them and you find the current reports more palatable?

***Ozyhibby*** · 05-05-2023 09:42 AM

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Or maybe they are just continuing to write about what has been served on a plate to them and you find the current reports more palatable?

Almost certainly that’s the case and Police Scotland are willing to leak them something everyday. Wonder why?

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**archie** · 05-05-2023 09:45 AM

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Almost certainly that’s the case and Police Scotland are willing to leak them something everyday. Wonder why?

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Are you sure it's Police Scotland doing the leaking? The Daily Record seems very close to the current FM.

***weecounty hibby*** · 05-05-2023 10:08 AM

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Or maybe they are just continuing to write about what has been served on a plate to them and you find the current reports more palatable?

I don't find any of it palatable. It's either a targeted attack on the party, and individuals within it. Or they have genuinely been up to no good. Either way it is not good news.

***JimBHibees*** · 06-05-2023 11:15 AM

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Are you sure it's Police Scotland doing the leaking? The Daily Record seems very close to the current FM.

Very close really ?

***Hiber-nation*** · 06-05-2023 11:26 AM

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Very close really ?

Nah, he's havering

***Kato*** · 06-05-2023 11:38 AM

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Are you sure it's Police Scotland doing the leaking? The Daily Record seems very close to the current FM.

HaHa

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**archie** · 06-05-2023 01:00 PM

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Nah, he's havering

You obviously haven't read their coverage of Humza during the leadership campaign and since. They were also all over the nursery story. They were also the recipients of a number of leaks under the previous FM.

***cabbageandribs1875*** · 09-05-2023 10:41 PM

keep a light on for us Europe :) Le Monde: Humza Yousaf makes front page of French newspaper | The National

**~~connerg~~** · 10-05-2023 01:39 AM

Belinda Carlisle. Great song in the late 80's or early 90's.

To a previous poster who called the Scottish government a circus. Standing/speaking up for yourself is not bad. Get off your knee's and stop grovelling.

***Ozyhibby*** · 10-05-2023 04:48 AM

https://twitter.com/markmcgeoghegan/...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

52-48

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***grunt*** · 10-05-2023 06:59 AM

GDP is not the only measure of success ....

***Ozyhibby*** · 10-05-2023 07:02 AM

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GDP is not the only measure of success ....

You can’t just compare us with Ireland.

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***Jack*** · 10-05-2023 08:42 AM

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You can’t just compare us with Ireland.

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Or anywhere else apparently. Too many variables.

***Bristolhibby*** · 10-05-2023 08:51 AM

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Or anywhere else apparently. Too many variables.

Definitely not England either.

J

**degenerated** · 10-05-2023 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by Bristolhibby

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Definitely not England either.

J

Greece is, or was, acceptable as long as it's caveated with "without the sun"

Mind, that's probably changed now.

***One Day Soon*** · 10-05-2023 02:19 PM

And yet it was argued that comparing us to Germany for the purposes of a discussion on whether refusing another referendum was reasonable or not was decried.

Is it legitimate to compare Scotland/UK with other countries or is it not?

***grunt*** · 10-05-2023 03:48 PM

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You can’t just compare us with Ireland.

***Hibrandenburg*** · 10-05-2023 05:18 PM

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And yet it was argued that comparing us to Germany for the purposes of a discussion on whether refusing another referendum was reasonable or not was decried.

Is it legitimate to compare Scotland/UK with other countries or is it not?

You can compare all you like but the formation of a unified German state and the UK were quite different.

***One Day Soon*** · 10-05-2023 08:29 PM

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You can compare all you like but the formation of a unified German state and the UK were quite different.

So it is legitimate to compare our position with that of the German Lander. Good, that seems clear.

***Ozyhibby*** · 12-05-2023 12:26 PM

https://www.cityam.com/revealed-brit...e-world/?amp=1

The UK is genuinely world leading. At last.

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***Moulin Yarns*** · 12-05-2023 01:34 PM

I've just finished a novel called Scotched Nation, a fictional account of post referendum political shenanigans. Worth a read as it's all plausible.

***Ozyhibby*** · 15-05-2023 10:19 AM

https://twitter.com/eu_commission/st...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

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***Jack*** · 15-05-2023 11:21 AM

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https://twitter.com/eu_commission/st...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

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Another brexit benefit. We're not included on that list!

***Ozyhibby*** · 15-05-2023 11:22 AM

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Another brexit benefit. We're not included on that list!

A small mercy.

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**degenerated** · 15-05-2023 06:04 PM

Hopefully this fud gets emptied next time round. Screenshot_2023-05-15-19-00-52-15_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg

***Kato*** · 15-05-2023 06:09 PM

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Hopefully this fud gets emptied next time round. Screenshot_2023-05-15-19-00-52-15_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg

https://twitter.com/Innealadair/stat...WVlviuEug&s=09

An English man in full Scottish Uncle Tom gear.

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**degenerated** · 15-05-2023 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by Kato

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https://twitter.com/Innealadair/stat...WVlviuEug&s=09

An English man in full Scottish Uncle Tom gear.

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From a family of planters, the apple never falls far from the tree.

***Mibbes Aye*** · 15-05-2023 06:31 PM

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Hopefully this fud gets emptied next time round. Screenshot_2023-05-15-19-00-52-15_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg

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https://twitter.com/Innealadair/stat...WVlviuEug&s=09

An English man in full Scottish Uncle Tom gear.

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That was from a couple of months ago and the full context was that Brexit and Scottish independence were both divisive and that nationalism didn’t provide the answers to the challenges of today, let alone tomorrow.

Still, it will bring up a lot of the Yes brethren to full-on beelin’

It does touch upon an interesting point though.

Scotland, as many would define it is a rather arbitrary and new ‘thing’. The idea of nation states is very recent in the history of mankind, the idea of liberal democracy even newer. Do we really think that nationalism has much in the way of a shelf life? It seems to be one of the biggest barriers to addressing global problems and likewise one of the biggest causes.

***Kato*** · 15-05-2023 06:42 PM

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That was from a couple of months ago and the full context was that Brexit and Scottish independence were both divisive and that nationalism didn’t provide the answers to the challenges of today, let alone tomorrow.

Still, it will bring up a lot of the Yes brethren to full-on beelin’

It does touch upon an interesting point though.

Scotland, as many would define it is a rather arbitrary and new ‘thing’. The idea of nation states is very recent in the history of mankind, the idea of liberal democracy even newer. Do we really think that nationalism has much in the way of a shelf life? It seems to be one of the biggest barriers to addressing global problems and likewise one of the biggest causes.

Which version of "nationalism" do you mean?

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