SNP are lying b******s as well !

[147lothian]

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Revealed: the SNP plot to oust Humza Yousaf (thetimes.co.uk)

One thing is for sure Hollyrood would be a lot less entertaining if they do oust the Clown Prince.

[TrumpIsAPeado]

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I have no particular insights here, but given the amount of leaking to the media during the leadership contest, it not that strange that it could still be going on. The question is who is doing it? It could also be to undermine Forbes, by implying she is disloyal.

It'll be the same "unnamed source" that the British media always rely on when discussing "top secret affairs" within the SNP.

[TrumpIsAPeado]

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One thing is for sure Hollyrood would be a lot less entertaining if they do oust the Clown Prince.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqiqRTX6z2M

A youtube channel with 200+ videos in the space of a year all about Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP. Where do you find the time?

[ronaldo7]

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I have no particular insights here, but given the amount of leaking to the media during the leadership contest, it not that strange that it could still be going on. The question is who is doing it? It could also be to undermine Forbes, by implying she is disloyal.

It could be many things as you've said, it could also be false and made up. The fact she's come out last night to say so should give us all a clue.

[Moulin Yarns]

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One thing is for sure Hollyrood would be a lot less entertaining if they do oust the Clown Prince.

Hollyrood?????? 🙄

[J-C]

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Your relentless I will give you that.

Trawls through every press outlet till he finds his anti SNP headlines, I can't imagine being that desperate in life to spend my time doing these things.

[J-C]

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Sorry mr. Literal.


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You should have said " nobody in their right mind"

[WhileTheChief..]

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Trawls through every press outlet till he finds his anti SNP headlines, I can't imagine being that desperate in life to spend my time doing these things.

Do you say the same about the Tory and Labour threads on here? There’s endless links to articles in the Guardian, but I’ve never seen you complain about the folk who post them?

Are these posters also desperate?

[Ozyhibby]

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You should have said " nobody in their right mind"

Fair point.


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[J-C]

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Do you say the same about the Tory and Labour threads on here? There’s endless links to articles in the Guardian, but I’ve never seen you complain about the folk who post them?

Are these posters also desperate?

Don't need to, the Labour thread is far too much bickering between a few usual suspects and the Tory thread everyone seems to have a go at them due to just being Tories.

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It could be many things as you've said, it could also be false and made up. The fact she's come out last night to say so should give us all a clue.

Maybe. I guess the question is who benefits from the story.

[ronaldo7]

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Maybe. I guess the question is who benefits from the story.

Unionists.

[Ozyhibby]

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Unionists.

Not Scots unionists. They just think it benefits them. They are still getting poorer with us in the UK.


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[archie]

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Unionists.

Maybe. But there could be others.

[ronaldo7]

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Maybe. But there could be others.

Other unionists. 😹

[archie]

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Other unionists. 😹

I think you need to look closer to home. Given that Kate Forbes has already challenged assertions made about her by the party leadership.

[Mibbes Aye]

I don't think there's an actual ferries thread, but they seem to get mentioned most on here.

The Scottish Government rented a catamaran for £9 million from Pentlands Ferries to cover routes on the West Coast. The ferry they got was the MV Alfred, which had been covering the Pentland Firth, from Caithness to Orkney.

Pentland brought back the MV Pentalina from the yard, which had been getting repaired, to cover the northern route, but that' boat has now run aground. I don't think anyone knows if and when it will be seaworthy again. The MV Alfred itself ran aground las year, I understand

I think the new transport minister, Kevin Stewart, should be out there making a strong and clear statement explaining what's happening. Key questions are

1) Will the MV Alfred be taken back from the west coast routes to service Orkney, leaving people and businesses in the west with no transport? What does the governments rental contract say in this regard?

2) If the MV Alfred stays put, what is the government intending to do to support the Orkney islanders?

3) Given the government has been using Pentland Ferries as a provider of last resort, how did they evaluate risk when leasing the Alfred? To lose one catamaran may be regarded as a misfortune. To lose two looks like carelessness..

Over to you, minister. But believe this, our island communities deserve better.

[He's here!]

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Trawls through every press outlet till he finds his anti SNP headlines, I can't imagine being that desperate in life to spend my time doing these things.

The BBC Scotland news website does a round-up of the day's front pages every morning. Doesn't require any 'trawling', particularly as for the last few months if it's a day that ends in 'y' it tends to be a bad day for the SNP on the front pages.

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The BBC Scotland news website does a round-up of the day's front pages every morning. Doesn't require any 'trawling', particularly as for the last few months if it's a day that ends in 'y' it tends to be a bad day for the SNP on the front pages.

Very little if none here from the BBC.

The Papers - BBC News

[archie]

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Very little if none here from the BBC.

The Papers - BBC News

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-65440836

[J-C]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-65440836

Unsurprisingly all the Tory hacks with anti SNP headlines, you can do better Archie, that's not debate and just like He's here it's just an SNP dig for the sake of it. It's the usual anti SNP agenda from the right wing press which isn't really a major surprise is it?

[Hibrandenburg]

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I have no particular insights here, but given the amount of leaking to the media during the leadership contest, it not that strange that it could still be going on. The question is who is doing it? It could also be to undermine Forbes, by implying she is disloyal.

It could also be the state compliant media just making stuff up.

[marinello59]

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It could also be the state compliant media just making stuff up.

They have history.
They tried to tell is that rather than being a Unionist plot, Salmond’s enemies lay within the SNP itself.
They made up a story saying that Flynn was going to challenge Blackford for the Westminster leadership.
They made up rumours that Sturgeon was going to resign.
They made up about nonsense about the SNP shedding members.
They even tried to suggest that senior figures in the SNP were going to be arrested as part of a fraud investigation.

All damned lies apparently. I don’t think shooting the messenger every single time works anymore.

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They have history.
They tried to tell is that rather than being a Unionist plot, Salmond’s enemies lay within the SNP itself.
They made up a story saying that Flynn was going to challenge Blackford for the Westminster leadership.
They made up rumours that Sturgeon was going to resign.
They made up about nonsense about the SNP shedding members.
They even tried to suggest that senior figures in the SNP were going to be arrested as part of a fraud investigation.

All damned lies apparently. I don’t think shooting the messenger every single time works anymore.

Self-fulfilling prophecies

[marinello59]

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Self-fulfilling prophecies

[JimBHibees]

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The BBC Scotland news website does a round-up of the day's front pages every morning. Doesn't require any 'trawling', particularly as for the last few months if it's a day that ends in 'y' it tends to be a bad day for the SNP on the front pages.

There is the problem right away

[Glory Lurker]

The front page of the Express is trying to blame the SG for the ferry running aground yesterday. I wonder what the health effects of all that endless seethe are for the readership and staff.

[archie]

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Unsurprisingly all the Tory hacks with anti SNP headlines, you can do better Archie, that's not debate and just like He's here it's just an SNP dig for the sake of it. It's the usual anti SNP agenda from the right wing press which isn't really a major surprise is it?

I was simply pointing you to the Scottish papers on the BBc. Not sure why I 'have to do better'.

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It could also be the state compliant media just making stuff up.

The SNP are 'the state' here.

[Moulin Yarns]

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The front page of the Express is trying to blame the SG for the ferry running aground yesterday. I wonder what the health effects of all that endless seethe are for the readership and staff.

There is a post from yesterday evening on this thread saying the same.