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    The NEC elections will be interesting next time out.


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    Everything about Murrell's stewardship of the party is really coming out in the wash now. Hard to imagine that Sturgeon can emerge from all this with her reputation anything other than heavily tarnished (and quite possibly worse). The 'I wasn't aware' card has already been overplayed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by He's here! View Post
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    Everything about Murrell's stewardship of the party is really coming out in the wash now. Hard to imagine that Sturgeon can emerge from all this with her reputation anything other than heavily tarnished (and quite possibly worse). The 'I wasn't aware' card has already been overplayed.
    She does suffer with selective amnesia ….she probably forgot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skol View Post
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    Some pretty weird replies to Forbes. Especially those who think her role as finance minister included the finances of the snp.
    Forbes doing more to keep party together than Humza at this stage. Self interest at play as well. She needs her supporters to stay members.


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    Snp can't get an auditor, Humza said today he won't divulge why they quit

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    understands accountants Johnston Carmichael resigned in Sept. Earlier the FM said it was “around Oct”.

    Former auditors apparently “raised no concerns

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Snp can't get an auditor, Humza said today he won't divulge why they quit

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    understands accountants Johnston Carmichael resigned in Sept. Earlier the FM said it was “around Oct”.

    Former auditors apparently “raised no concerns
    He had almost a week to divulge they’d quit ‘around October’ (actually September) and didn’t. He does find it easier to promise more transparency than deliver it.
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    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...iftigniter-rhr

    One rule for Murrell and one rule for Michelle Thomson?

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    So the motor home parked at Murrell’s mum was actually the SNP Battle Bus https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/p...paign=sharebar
    you could not make this up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berwickhibby View Post
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    So the motor home parked at Murrell’s mum was actually the SNP Battle Bus https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/p...paign=sharebar
    you could not make this up
    It will be interesting to see who owned it? If it’s the SNP then it should be returned, no?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    It will be interesting to see who owned it? If it’s the SNP then it should be returned, no?


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    Absolutely, the Log book should show registered keeper and if an SNP asset then it will be on the SNP accounts. Their accountant or fund manager should know.
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    The accounts show a vehicle/vehicles being bought during 2021.

    Book value at the end of the year £80,632. Assuming depreciation of 25%, that means it/they cost £107k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    The accounts show a vehicle/vehicles being bought during 2021.

    Book value at the end of the year £80,632. Assuming depreciation of 25%, that means it/they cost £107k.
    Sounds like that’s the very vehicle. Hopefully it can now be sold and the money returned to the party. By all accounts it’s unused and they hold their value better than most vehicles so the loss shouldn’t be too much.
    As far as Murrell goes, unless he has been using it privately then there should not be any legal jeopardy for him over that?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Sounds like that’s the very vehicle. Hopefully it can now be sold and the money returned to the party. By all accounts it’s unused and they hold their value better than most vehicles so the loss shouldn’t be too much.
    As far as Murrell goes, unless he has been using it privately then there should not be any legal jeopardy for him over that?


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    The DR piece suggests it hasn't moved.

    I wonder what the parking or storage costs would have been for the 2 years they've owned it.

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    They should have sold it when it was clear it wasn't getting used as pandemic housing. It was years ago that hotels opened up and it was clearly unneeded. Bizarre episode

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    They should have sold it when it was clear it wasn't getting used as pandemic housing. It was years ago that hotels opened up and it was clearly unneeded. Bizarre episode
    What is bizarre is why the police would lift it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    What is bizarre is why the police would lift it?


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    Both sides of the story are bizarre. Wonder if it will be sold on the proceeds of crime act if found it was money for independence campaign that bought it.

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    Could be attempted theft IF there is evidence that he obtained the motor home with SNP funds with the intention of keeping it. Either way it would not be sold under the proceeds of crime act as there is a lawful owner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Both sides of the story are bizarre. Wonder if it will be sold on the proceeds of crime act if found it was money for independence campaign that bought it.
    I doubt that. If they were going to charge that then surely they could have done that already? Besides, the van could count as an expense towards the Indy campaign anyway.
    I’m wondering what seizing the van achieved? Unless Murrell registered it in his own name?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    I doubt that. If they were going to charge that then surely they could have done that already? Besides, the van could count as an expense towards the Indy campaign anyway.
    I’m wondering what seizing the van achieved? Unless Murrell registered it in his own name?


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    Or the SNP requested the return of their property

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    I doubt that. If they were going to charge that then surely they could have done that already? Besides, the van could count as an expense towards the Indy campaign anyway.
    I’m wondering what seizing the van achieved? Unless Murrell registered it in his own name?


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    It looks as if it's in the accounts. If it is, the auditors would have seen the VRD, the invoice, and the vehicle itself.

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    I'm trying to remain open minded about this all (as I did during the Salmond affair) but I must admit I'm still waiting for any smoking guns to turn up and prove beyond doubt that the SNP are shower of total wrong 'uns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartie View Post
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    I'm trying to remain open minded about this all (as I did during the Salmond affair) but I must admit I'm still waiting for any smoking guns to turn up and prove beyond doubt that the SNP are shower of total wrong 'uns.
    Nobody is suggesting that the SNP are a shower of total wrong uns…..just Murrell and possibly Sturgeon….I can offer over 600,000 smoking guns that are being investigated

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    Yousaf going to court. Fool.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Yousaf going to court. Fool.


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    He'll be out by Christmas. Who is advising him is it the same advisor's as Sturgeon had the last 12 months. No wonder Kate forbes is putting out press interviews recently. It's like Humza has deliberately self destroyed his first 2 weeks in office

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berwickhibby View Post
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    Nobody is suggesting that the SNP are a shower of total wrong uns…..just Murrell and possibly Sturgeon….I can offer over 600,000 smoking guns that are being investigated
    Being investigated... as it should.

    I've always been more "innocent until proven guilty" than "no smoke without fire" though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartie View Post
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    Being investigated... as it should.

    I've always been more "innocent until proven guilty" than "no smoke without fire" though.
    I think there will at least be a charge. Police Scotland have went in with both feet here and they will need to find something to justify their approach.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    I think there will at least be a charge. Police Scotland have went in with both feet here and they will need to find something to justify their approach.


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    Wrong again this is a Procurator Fiscal lead enquiry and they will decide what if any charges will be brought. Police on this enquiry are solely evidence gathers.

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    Yousaf going to court. Fool.


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    What an eejit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berwickhibby View Post
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    So the motor home parked at Murrell’s mum was actually the SNP Battle Bus https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/p...paign=sharebar
    you could not make this up
    The Motor home was just resting on my Mother’s driveway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berwickhibby View Post
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    Wrong again this is a Procurator Fiscal lead enquiry and they will decide what if any charges will be brought. Police on this enquiry are solely evidence gathers.
    I would say that the way they have gathered their evidence seems to be a bit heavy handed? Maybe not, we won’t know until the charges are brought.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Yousaf going to court. Fool.


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    Trying hard to keep the greens happy when the the non hardcore element of the SNPs vote is looking more flimsy by the day.

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