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    Quote Originally Posted by He's here! View Post
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    I tend to be a bit sceptical of the Express but I note they're claiming Sturgeon is set to step down as an MSP. Might not be wildly off the mark.
    There was a lot of twitter chatter last night, which is where I suspect they sourced it from.


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    Quote Originally Posted by degenerated View Post
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    Was that what they were digging up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berwickhibby View Post
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    That would add another twist to the SNP saga
    Why? She was FM, what can she do now that's more important. She spoke about working in children's charities. Calling it a twist is pure trolling.

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    Why? She was FM, what can she do now that's more important. She spoke about working in children's charities. Calling it a twist is pure trolling.
    Come on, he never used the word “nippy” or “krankie” in his post. It’s a start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeeRussell View Post
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    Come on, he never used the word “nippy” or “krankie” in his post. It’s a start.
    23 years as an MSP and 9 as FM, did he think she was just going sit on the back benches doing nowt but like trying to have a wee dig eh.

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...lands-65237610

    I'm very surprised Yousaf hasn't put addressing this fiasco higher up his agenda. Not appointing a transport minister to his cabinet seems baffling. Or does he calculate that the number of voters affected means it's not a pressing issue?

    Prioritising a GRA court challenge which most voters would rather see quietly forgotten about seems bizarre (or at best a deflection from the current SNP turmoil).

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    Quote Originally Posted by He's here! View Post
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...lands-65237610

    I'm very surprised Yousaf hasn't put addressing this fiasco higher up his agenda. Not appointing a transport minister to his cabinet seems baffling. Or does he calculate that the number of voters affected means it's not a pressing issue?

    Prioritising a GRA court challenge which most voters would rather see quietly forgotten about seems bizarre (or at best a deflection from the current SNP turmoil).
    He appears to be drifting just now, not sure what to do. The mistake of not bringing Forbes into govt has proven to be a disaster for him.
    At some point soon, that side of the party are going to rebel and he will lose a vote. Probably on marine protected areas. There are about 16 MSP’s likely to vote against that. The greens only contribute 8 MSP’s to the coalition. It would be madness to try proceed with this and back 8 MSP’s from another party against 16 of your own. If he pulls it then the Bute house agreement falls. That is much preferable than splitting your own party.
    He doesn’t appear to have thought all this through. He needs to start looking at the numbers and realise that the greens have to go. Will he do that? Right now he is a bit like a deer in the headlights.
    He needs to start making moves soon.


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    Yousaf saying auditors actually stopped being involved at the end of 2022...calls the situation "problematic".

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    Stephen Flynn comes across poorly here.


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    Yousaf saying auditors actually stopped being involved at the end of 2022...calls the situation "problematic".
    SNP auditors quit six months ago and First Minister Humza Yousaf did not know until becoming party leader | STV News

    And he had no idea until now! Extraordinary.

    I note that further down the story he's confirmed they won't be suspending Murrell but neither will they be paying his legal fees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J-C View Post
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    Why? She was FM, what can she do now that's more important. She spoke about working in children's charities. Calling it a twist is pure trolling.
    So if it’s not pro SNP it’s trolling …pathetic

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    Is it not only important to have auditors when you're getting your accounts done though ie the last auditors finishing up 6 months ago isn't really news or something to be alarmed about - unless they're not replaced at the appropriate time when the accounts are next done, presumably within the next 6 months?

    (CWG????)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartie View Post
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    Is it not only important to have auditors when you're getting your accounts done though ie the last auditors finishing up 6 months ago isn't really news or something to be alarmed about - unless they're not replaced at the appropriate time when the accounts are next done, presumably within the next 6 months?

    (CWG????)
    No, they should be in by now as accounts needs presented in July. There is no getting away from the fact that this is a cluster**** and that it needs someone to get a grip of it pronto.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Berwickhibby View Post
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    So if it’s not pro SNP it’s trolling …pathetic
    Not really, I was just surprised you didn't use the usual names for her that you normally call her.

    I'll ask again, why would Sturgeon stepping down be another twist, it's probably the most logical and unexpected thing that will happen within the SNP, many years serving the party and the country and you see it as a twist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-C View Post
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    Not really, I was just surprised you didn't use the usual names for her that you normally call her.

    I'll ask again, why would Sturgeon stepping down be another twist, it's probably the most logical and unexpected thing that will happen within the SNP, many years serving the party and the country and you see it as a twist.
    If she does it soon it'll be a twist as people will be interested in how the SNP would do, like Rutherglen. I suspect she will wait until the next election though. I'm sure she'll get a much bigger wedge elsewhere and good on her

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartie View Post
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    Is it not only important to have auditors when you're getting your accounts done though ie the last auditors finishing up 6 months ago isn't really news or something to be alarmed about - unless they're not replaced at the appropriate time when the accounts are next done, presumably within the next 6 months?

    (CWG????)
    I would expect normal (does a political party count as that?) practice would be to have tendered and replaced the auditors as opposed to going half the year without any appointed. Although they're only useful (subjective ) for a limited time of the year as you point out - I wouldn't know when that would typically be in the year but would have thought before now if accounts are due in July.

    I would also expect that to be led by the company rather than the auditors resigning.

    Could all be different in the sphere of political parties though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by J-C View Post
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    Not really, I was just surprised you didn't use the usual names for her that you normally call her.

    I'll ask again, why would Sturgeon stepping down be another twist, it's probably the most logical and unexpected thing that will happen within the SNP, many years serving the party and the country and you see it as a twist.
    Because after she stepped down as FM she stated she will be a back bench MSP, then if the Express story is true and she resigns her seat prior to the next election it adds a twist to her fall from power. Or is this also trolling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berwickhibby View Post
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    Because after she stepped down as FM she stated she will be a back bench MSP, then if the Express story is true and she resigns her seat prior to the next election it adds a twist to her fall from power. Or is this also trolling
    She didn't fall from power, she stepped down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since90+2 View Post
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    She didn't fall from power, she stepped down.
    Its starting to become harder and harder to believe that the power couple in Scotland for so long weren't pushed out by forces beyond their control. A fall from power may turn out to be a fair assessment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    Its starting to become harder and harder to believe that the power couple in Scotland for so long weren't pushed out by forces beyond their control. A fall from power may turn out to be a fair assessment.
    Possibly, but that's speculation that may or may not come to pass.

    As it stands with the information we have at the moment, she stood down rather than being pushed or "falling".

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    Its starting to become harder and harder to believe that the power couple in Scotland for so long weren't pushed out by forces beyond their control. A fall from power may turn out to be a fair assessment.
    I'd say that it's more obvious that the jury is definitely out now on the stepped down v jumped scenario...if you'll pardon the pun. If she didn't know some of this stuff then, as leader of the party it was remiss (that's being kind). If she knew...that's a whole different ball game.

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    Sounds like zero governance. Too much control and power held by the CEO and the "board" or relevant committee not holding him to account.

    The President (chair) should know that the auditors have resigned and ask for work to be put in place for new ones to be appointed or tendered for.

    And I would think that there would be no way that other members, MSPs and the FM didn't know about this.

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    Not really, I was just surprised you didn't use the usual names for her that you normally call her.

    I'll ask again, why would Sturgeon stepping down be another twist, it's probably the most logical and unexpected thing that will happen within the SNP, many years serving the party and the country and you see it as a twist.
    I'd be very surprised if she sees stepping down as an MSP as 'logical' right now. Subjecting her party to a by-election in the current climate is the last thing they need. Her intention, reading between the lines of her resignation speech, was to step down at the next Holyrood election. Going now would smack of jumping before pushed.

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    https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcas...=1000607736368

    Stephen Flynn comes across poorly here.


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    I thought Flynn came out OK. He was willing to go slightly further than the normal politicians answers without crossing any lines.
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    Forbes on marine protected zones.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    The NEC elections will be interesting next time out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Some pretty weird replies to Forbes. Especially those who think her role as finance minister included the finances of the snp.

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