Tories are still lying *******s

[cabbageandribs1875]

they're a shower of Gangsters, crooked corrupt immoral Gangsters

Ex-standards chief said Tory MP backed her into corner and warned ‘watch your back’ (msn.com)



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[cabbageandribs1875]

nice seeing such a low confidence in the press in the UK(13%), and a higher percentage having more confidence in the EU than the UK Parliament

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[Ozyhibby]

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Tou will love this one then, from one of the loyal lieutenants in the Rishbunker. Seemingly the best way to stop migration is to behave just like a people-smuggling gang.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...robert-jenrick

I saw Jenrick on TV a few weeks ago. Whilst he looks perfectly affable, 99% of what he said was a cold soup of dog whistles, manufactured moral panics and croutons of loathsome bile.

I think they are doing a good job of deterring educated people from wealthy countries from coming here.


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nice seeing such a low confidence in the press in the UK(13%), and a higher percentage having more confidence in the EU than the UK Parliament

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This is encouraging but I just hope it translates into action. The press are no different to 7 years ago, and yet they still seem to hold an extraordinary sway over politics, including voters who keep buying what they are selling.

[wookie70]

Question Time was actually interesting last night. A majority Tory audience appeared compassionate of Asylum Seekers, wanted social housing built and were scathing of the cuts to social services etc. They were almost mocking the Tory on teh panel and at no point did I think they believed a word he was saying. Fiona Bruce even challenged him a couple of times so she much be fearful of her job after her recent performances. It actually restored my faith in the electorate. Perhaps there is a bit of common sense and compassion left in your average voter

[Ozyhibby]

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This is encouraging but I just hope it translates into action. The press are no different to 7 years ago, and yet they still seem to hold an extraordinary sway over politics, including voters who keep buying what they are selling.

I doubt there is a newspaper in the UK that has been making money over the last 10 years and yet they all survive. Shows the value they have to their owners is more than financial.


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I doubt there is a newspaper in the UK that has been making money over the last 10 years and yet they all survive. Shows the value they have to their owners is more than financial.


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I think when considering the value of the media you need to add the revenue they make from their online presence. Income from subscriptions and advertising will go a considerable way to making up for loss from printed publications.

I'd like to see them all going down the tubes but I doubt it will happen.

[archie]

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I think when considering the value of the media you need to add the revenue they make from their online presence. Income from subscriptions and advertising will go a considerable way to making up for loss from printed publications.

I'd like to see them all going down the tubes but I doubt it will happen.

Just to be clear, you would like all newspapers to close?

[Jack]

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Just to be clear, you would like all newspapers to close?

I don't like the way any of them are run at the moment and I can't see that changing anytime soon. I'd like to see a reset but what I would like is neither here nor there.

The huge and continuing decline in circulation numbers suggests I'm not alone although I'm unsure how online is working out.

[grunt]

I don't know where these figures come from and so cannot vouch for their veracity:

Up to date daily circulation figures in Scotland for Scottish newspapers.

Daily Record - 59,615
Sunday Mail - 56,866
The Herald - 12,928
Herald on Sunday - 6,679
The Scotsman - 8,762
Scotland on Sunday - 4,921
Sunday Post - 35,183
The National - 3,555
Sunday National - 4195

[Stairway 2 7]

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I don't like the way any of them are run at the moment and I can't see that changing anytime soon. I'd like to see a reset but what I would like is neither here nor there.

The huge and continuing decline in circulation numbers suggests I'm not alone although I'm unsure how online is working out.

The top online subscriptions are the guardian and FT who have 1 million subscribers. Think the torygraph was about 400k the times 300k and the sun 200k

Big but a fraction of what the newspapers used to sell.

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Have you noticed how we needed a referendum to join and leave the EU but the Tories joined us into the CPTPP without even a vote in Parliament?

[Hibrandenburg]

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I don't like the way any of them are run at the moment and I can't see that changing anytime soon. I'd like to see a reset but what I would like is neither here nor there.

The huge and continuing decline in circulation numbers suggests I'm not alone although I'm unsure how online is working out.

For the last few days I've had close insight and interaction with the media and to say they as a group are a strange bunch is a massive understatement. With the exception of a very small group of individuals I've never had the displeasure of working with such an obnoxious, egotistical, moaning faced and greedy bunch of ******s in my life. The problems are not just at the top of the media branch, it filters down like diarrhoea all the way to the bottom.

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Just to be clear, you would like all newspapers to close?

I don’t think that’s a question with any value, since it clearly isn’t going to happen and Jack has no power to make it so.

A better question is does the media contribute positively to our national culture? My pseudo Marxist take is that it’s a device to keep the rich and powerful in power by limiting the parameters of debate and dumbing down culture. Consumption over the internet means content is ever more hysterical and divisive because the psycho analytics show that’s what people click on. They would argue they are just reflecting what the public want.

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I don’t think that’s a question with any value, since it clearly isn’t going to happen and Jack has no power to make it so.

A better question is does the media contribute positively to our national culture? My pseudo Marxist take is that it’s a device to keep the rich and powerful in power by limiting the parameters of debate and dumbing down culture. They would argue they are just reflecting what the public want.

Well thanks for the critique!

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Well thanks for the critique!

Apologies, late edit. I had a deadline for my editor

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"Integrity, professionalism and accountability"?

Or

"April fools"?

You decide.

[hibsbollah]

Led By Donkeys 5 parter on YouTube on MPs for hire. Kwateng and Hancock are still representing their constituents after this and seem totally unrepentant.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HzvmeDcoXRY

[Kato]

Nazi chat.

https://twitter.com/SophyRidgeSky/st...oEHpuco6g&s=19

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Nazi chat.

https://twitter.com/SophyRidgeSky/st...oEHpuco6g&s=19

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It’s what decent teachers warned us about in modern studies.

https://ec.europa.eu/programmes/erasmus-plus/project-result-content/3a1f33a0-e094-45fd-a7f0-0d5fe29f8d5e/STAGES%20OF%20THE%20HOLOCAUST.pdf

Modi playing a very similar game in India, interestingly. “All those <insert ethnic group to demonise> are all after raping your women” has been a fascist trope since, well, ever.

The only difference between her and Goebbels messaging on this is that his Reich Ministry of Enlightenment and Propaganda hadn’t just released a study making clear child grooming and exploitation is on the rise across ALL groups and ethnicity is unimportant to the debate, as the Home Office has done.

[hibsbollah]

I’m delighted Starmer is making this exact point about it not being an ethnicity issue, on LBC now.

[Kato]

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It’s what decent teachers warned us about in modern studies.

https://ec.europa.eu/programmes/eras...0HOLOCAUST.pdf

Modi playing a very similar game in India, interestingly. “All those <insert ethnic group to demonise> are all after raping your women” has been a fascist trope since, well, ever.

The only difference between her and Goebbels messaging on this is that his Reich Ministry of Enlightenment and Propaganda hadn’t just released a study making clear child grooming and exploitation is on the rise across ALL groups and ethnicity is unimportant to the debate, as the Home Office has done.

Yeah, it's not a race problem, it's a problem with men.

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Yeah, it's not a race problem, it's a problem with men.

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There seems to be a particular problem with white British men trying to get their hands on young Ukrainian women these days from what I can see. Certainly lots of online advertising to that effect.

[Kato]

Snide

https://twitter.com/carolvorders/sta...9FvV5PCAw&s=19

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Snide

https://twitter.com/carolvorders/sta...9FvV5PCAw&s=19

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It's not just them on twitter. I noticed an English local Councillor had been in some sort of scandal last week. I can't remember if it was sex or money.

There was no mention in the original article which party he was a member of and pages of Google searching didn't bring it up either; plenty on him just no party mentioned which I thought was odd. I ended up searching for his election result on the Council website. You'll never guess what? He was a tory!

If similar is happening elsewhere in the media it would suggest something much more sinister than a few MPs being less than transparent.

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Liz Truss

[Bostonhibby]

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It's not just them on twitter. I noticed an English local Councillor had been in some sort of scandal last week. I can't remember if it was sex or money.

There was no mention in the original article which party he was a member of and pages of Google searching didn't bring it up either; plenty on him just no party mentioned which I thought was odd. I ended up searching for his election result on the Council website. You'll never guess what? He was a tory!

If similar is happening elsewhere in the media it would suggest something much more sinister than a few MPs being less than transparent.

All of the tories standing in our local council elections have no evidence they are standing as Tory candidates in their literature, ones even printed in black and white only whereas previously it was all union Jack's and blue in evidence.

Going to get routed anyway as managed to abstain in a vote to keep the only swimming pool in his own constituency open to stay onside with the tory dominated district councils wishes.

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[Ozyhibby]

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"Legal routes for asylum"

[Jones28]

Conservative MP's are now removing any mention of being Conservative MP's from things like Twitter bio's and other Social Media and distributing leaflets that look suspiciously green.