Plant Medicine Ceremonies

[CropleyWasGod]

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[Jack]

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Try this....

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That works, thanks.

[Dalianwanda]

Match Report Part 2

Last night I had an integration ceremony which was really useful. Nothing fancy just a chat about how I was with the rest of the group. It reminded me I hadn’t updated this!

So as I shared with the group at the moment Im feeling good. Bouncing between feeling spacious & connected & spacey & lost. Its all good though I was feeling a wee bit rudderless (as in what do I do with my life now kinda buzz) but things are starting to show up for me & Im getting a plan together bit by bit. As I say Ive felt pretty spacious, connected or at peace but at the same time Ive felt really isolated and that I can’t really share what Ive been through with many. So writing this out will help as Im not doing it for judgement or understanding just throwing out my experience which is what it is.

Ans thats one of the things that drew me to working with plant medicine. Its not about beliefs, or control, or lacking its about direct experience and learning and understanding from that.

So in the last update Id’ got to the start of us cleansing our body by purging before breakfast. The next part was beginning the food element. Every day was the same with little variations at lunch. Breakfast was a boiled spud, porridge & chappo (boiled mashed banana drink), lunch on non ceremony days (ceremony days are the days I was taking ayahuasca) was boiled yucca, white rice, broccoli, green beans & a fish from the river. Dinner was broth, which was basically water with loads of veggies in it. All we could drink was water & we weren’t allowed to snack outside lunchtime. On ceremony days the broth was moved down to lunching we fasted till breakfast the next day. We had the option if we wanted to fast during the dieta. I did 48hrs around half way through my time there and found to very beneficial. The lessons came stronger & clearer whether that was the fast or not Im not sure (I’lljust say it was since I went through it ;-)

When I got to the village as we had been told to bring things like hiking boots I naturally thought we would be doing jungle tricks on our off days. After the first ceremony I realised that there were no off days. We either had a ceremony at night or we basically spent the days in our tambos (huts) journaling, meditating, smoking mupacho (see below) or resting. It was too hot to do anything else and most of the time I waste tired.

So the ceremonies themselves started about 7pm (the first ceremony was also to bring out defences downspout was easier to let go of energiesAs it was also easier to pick up energies from others from here on there was no touching & no burdening others with what you were going through..for the next couple of weeks it was iscolation for the majority of the time)… The ceremony room was amazing and it was a place I’d spend time if the solitude of the Tambo got too boring :-) Ive attached a pic. Our mats were all around the outside of the room (we were told what our mat was for the week) and in the middle was a mat and a alter and set up for the shaman including the ayahuasca. There was no really talking in the ceremony room, it was to be treated with respect. I had beside on my mat pillows and blankets & beside me a bowl to purge into, a carved nova rao pipe (it was another connection to the master plant I was taking), a supply of mopacho both in roll up form & loose tobacco for pipe, a couple bottle of agua florida & some water. Oh yeah I also had a head torch as the whole ceremony is done in pitch darkness and sometimes I needed to crawl to the loo!

Mopacho is a south american tobacco & its another master plant. I don’t smoke but I used this regularly. I wouldn’t inhale but just take a draw & blow it over the chakras. Heres a link to its uses https://doubleblindmag.com/mapacho-n...acred-tobacco/ . The agua florida was basically scented water that had such an amazing effect on the senses during the ceremonies. It snapped you present in a invigorating way and was just lovely (especially when things got a bit intense).

So I was all kitted out and ready. Eventually the Shaman/Maestro would come in with her number 2 shaman with her. This is where I really started to get why I had travelled all that way. To watch her prep & realise not only had she being doing this for decades but was also following a lineage of guides going back thousands of years. She only spoke shepibo and some Spanish so it was a quick “buenas noches” then she was oft work. First of all she would get us up one at a time. We would kneel in front of her and she would mumble words, and blow mupacho on us to cleanse us with ‘white light’ and keep away evil spirits. Then she would take the ayahuasca bottle and start to breath in it gently. Lightly singing and talking breath into the bottle for a few minutes. Once done it was time to dish it out.

We’d again go up one at a time and a measure the ayahuasca was poured. On night one it looked like a triple shot (this was upped for some of us as the ceremonies went by, we could also ask for more during the ceremonies (not that we would always get it), again mupacho was blown into it then we would take it back to our mat. We’d then breathe our own intention into the glass before necking it.

My god if there’s a fowler tasting drink out there Im yet to try it. We had also been warned the brew was particularly strong so particularly minging. It was actually hard not to just puke it back up. Some controlled breathing & a slug of water usually helped keep it down (this didn’t get easier as the nights went on, it probably got harder)…..The shaman would then take her ayahuasca then in another few minutes blow out the candles so were sitting on our mats in complete darkness, with just the noise of the jungle animals around us waiting for whatever to happen…

Think that’s enough for now, the jury stuff follows in the last post I’ll get done this week.

[CropleyWasGod]

Anyone tried kambo?

[Dalianwanda]

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Anyone tried kambo?

I’m booked in for a session next month. Not particularly looking forward to it.

[CropleyWasGod]

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I’m booked in for a session next month. Not particularly looking forward to it.

Not?

Tell us why 😀

[Dalianwanda]

Well i’ve heard great things about the results…But also heard the actual process can be kinda hot and sweaty with lots of purging guaranteed. No pretty visuals to be take the edge off 😅 It doesn’t last too long so sure it’ll be grand.

[CropleyWasGod]

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Well i’ve heard great things about the results…But also heard the actual process can be kinda hot and sweaty with lots of purging guaranteed. No pretty visuals to be take the edge off 😅 It doesn’t last too long so sure it’ll be grand.

Sounds to me as if it's Aya Lite 😀

My partner wants to do a couples ceremony. I'm not too sure.

Rory Lamont, who used to play rugby for Scotland, does them in Perthshire.

[Dalianwanda]

My friends went to a ceremony over here for kambo and really enjoyed it (he’d never done any plants in a guided way….i know a frogs not a plant but you know what i mean ;-))..

i’m just going to kickstart the immune system after being told my ulcerative colitis has gone into remission following Peru.

wow..just shows there’s all sorts embracing nature..on face value i’d never have linked him with it

[CropleyWasGod]

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My friends went to a ceremony over here for kambo and really enjoyed it (he’d never done any plants in a guided way….i know a frogs not a plant but you know what i mean ;-))..

i’m just going to kickstart the immune system after being told my ulcerative colitis has gone into remission following Peru.

wow..just shows there’s all sorts embracing nature..on face value i’d never have linked him with it

Lamont's journey began when injury ended his rugby career. His mental health went into a downward spiral, and conventional medicine didn't work for him. So he turned to other medicine, went to South America, and has embraced the whole plant thing.

He's talking at an event at the University next month. Really looking forward to hearing him.

[Dalianwanda]

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Lamont's journey began when injury ended his rugby career. His mental health went into a downward spiral, and conventional medicine didn't work for him. So he turned to other medicine, went to South America, and has embraced the whole plant thing.

He's talking at an event at the University next month. Really looking forward to hearing him.

Ah that would be cool to hear. I’m so glad my life’s taken this path, it’s so interesting and inspiring.

I don’t know if you have Gaia but if you do an episode of The Healing Powers focuses on kambo

[CropleyWasGod]

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Just bumping this event, which is on this coming Wednesday.

[Dalianwanda]

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Just bumping this event, which is on this coming Wednesday.

How did it go? I had a look and see it was sold out :-)

[Dalianwanda]

Final Match Report

So I closed my eyes and gently focussed on my breath. All you could here was the noise of the jungle and the odd yawn coming from the others around me. After a while the maestro starts to sing her icaro which are specific songs sung by the shaman to bring forward the good-spirits and keep away the bad ones. She starts to sing when the ayahuasca she has taken starts to work for her.

Its really magical to hear. Over the space of around 6 hours she will start from her space in the middle of the ceremony room then in time sit across from each of the group. This was so powerful & way beyond what I had experienced in Ireland (normally there’s music playing or maybe a rhythmic drum or rattle). As well as trying to work with the spirit world its also a thread for me to hold on to when either I drift off into a dream state or become caught in a loop of bad experience.

As well as the main maestro there was a secondary one who when the first one had moved to the next person the secondary one would fill that space. To me & some of the others it felt like the first one was opening you up & allowing negative stuff to leave the body with the second shaman it was amore joyous experience feeling great love and positive energy (not all the time but certainly more often than not). OnI think the third ceremony we had a third shaman singing an icaro, this time a man. Having three of them was amazing but also disorientating as it felt like they were all around you even when they were actually at the other side of the room. The first maestro would also be purging a lot which again felt like she was literally suck they crap out of you then purging it up.

In my first ceremony I had no idea what to expect (although I probably had some expectations due to stuff Id read or watched prior to travelling). I sat waiting for what ever to kick on. I did start getting some powerful visuals which seemed to be that of many snakes filling my complete vision. I couldn’t see any heads or tails, just the bodies writhing about. That was really my only vision the rest of it was really physical with me going into spasm a lot (a kind of super extreme yawn) which wasn’t scary but it left me exhausted. Around 6 hours later I felt like I’d tried too hard and failed & just wanted to get out of the room once the ceremony was over. I was wrecked.

The day after the ceremony we had sharing circles where we shared out experience & everyone just listened. I found these really powerful & it shook me out of my disappointment & excited for the remaining ceremonies. In future circles by verbalising what I was experiencing helped me understand why it was showing me what it showed. Valuable integration back into my life.

I’ll mention a couple of experiences I had on the other ceremonies. Ive found it kind of difficult to put it into words. The feelings I experienced (especially love) were like nothing I’d felt before, way more intense. But putting it into words doesn’t do an of it justice. What also makes it harder to verbalise is that for a lot of the lessons brought up, I was experiencing as if I was there but also as if I was a witness to the experience lots of the time. Not like being mindful & noticing the present moment as such, more from experiencing from multiple positions all at once. I also didn’t want to go looking for ‘the visuals. This was one of my biggest learnings as I suppose I was looking for these rather than just allowing what showed up. The visuals are pretty amazing at times but in the big scheme of things not that important (I was there to learn).

On the second night a decided to keep it simple, my intention was to just experience true self. After a while in the darkness a little white dot appeared in my vision (like the only one you use to get when you switch off the telly)..This then grew to again show lots of snake like scales writhing about in a few different colours..About 45mins in a massive white light appeared in the corner of my vision, it felt like I was staring at the sun. As had a go at opening met eyes (over the 2 weeks sometimes it was difficult to tell if my eyes were open or closed due to visuals showing up either way)..I could tell it was dark so shut them and again the light showed up. Unlike other dreams Ive had I could physically moved my head to get different views (just like with my eyes open)..I looked up at the light which was eventually peeled back like a cover over my head. When right back I could see about 15 different characters looking down on me (I was lying down they were all crowded around but a good few feet above so it seemed. There were relatives, beings I couldn’t describe and the odd animal. All looking down smiling, saying hello, giggling and telling me not to try too hard to come up and join them for a look about. I was a bit like a moth against a light trying but bouncing back. They just giggled and said it was cool & they would be there when I made it. Eventually I lay back, I wasn’t frustrated but was trying to work out what the learning was. Then for the first time (this happed around 10 times that night) I witnessed myself dying. It sounds very morbid but it didn’t feel that way at the time. I felt and witnessed myself lying down then experiencing my body decomposing. Skin muscles then bone dissolving until eventually I felt I was in the soil, then mixed with the soil, then particles of soil then patricles/atoms in space then just space. In space I felt a real peace and noticed although my body was gone I wasn’t, I was still aware. As I say this happened through the ceremony about 10 times. Similar to the first ceremony I was having yawny seizures so although I wasn’t in any pain it was physically exhausting. What I found really interesting was that when ever I was at my weakest the plant would do something to either make me laugh, lift my spirits or give me physical strength to keep going.

On this night after every vision of death I would experience the super bright green light. At times it came in the form of drops coming from a watering can which when I looked closer was being held over me by the beings I mentioned earlier. Other times it was like standing in a waterfall with the jungle all around me. This is where the feelings of love/bliss or whatever where at levels Id never experienced before & gave me strength to stay present and carry on. As I say it was beyond description….

On the third night the ‘boosters’ of lightness/love came more in a football theme. John Wark in his Scotland strip in a panini sticker album kept popping up when times were tough giving me the thumbs up & telling me to stick in there I was doing great. Before a particularly tough lesson which I won’t go into I was on the pitch with Hibs I remember us scoring a goal and being surrounded by players (not one stuck out but they all seemed like every player Id every knew played for us) which grew into my family then then Hibs family and all our ancestors..The feeling was like celebrating every goal we had ever scored all at once. Holding up a trophy which then tuned golden and everything else turned black and then the lesson that was really difficult was shown to me. It was done in such a lovely way I really believe the plant had my back.

In other ceremonies with my eyes open I felt I turned into a tiger for a while which again gave me massive strength when I felt really week. I went invisible for a while which really confused me as I could see silhouettes of the people beside me but couldn’t see my hands or arms…….Loads of other amazing things…haha

Theres so many other things that showed up but Ive probably said enough ;-) After the final ceremony the shaman put our protection back on again (I could see her in the darkness adorning me with what I later found out where visions of ceremonial robes) which meant for the first time in two weeks we could shake hands with each other and hug..This last ceremony was on my birthday & also on a full moon. Pretty emotional as the ceremony finished and we looked out over the jungle canopy illuminated by moonlight.

Im not going to say it was the trip of a lifetime because I do think I’ll go back again. It was a life changer though & Im so grateful I committed to it and stuck with it.

Also Im not saying any of the visions were real however I did experience it all & what is reality if its not experienced?

Hope some of this made sense haha

[CropleyWasGod]

Thanks for sharing that, DW.

Really interesting at first read, and I will be reading again

[Dalianwanda]

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Thanks for sharing that, DW.

Really interesting at first read, and I will be reading again

Thanks! As soon as I posted I thought I never mentioned this, should have mentioned that etc...Could have been at it all day

[Bristolhibby]

That’s amazing. There really is another level to life and we just need to know how to access it.

J

[Dalianwanda]

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That’s amazing. There really is another level to life and we just need to know how to access it.

J

Yeah pretty eye opening to say the least. I went through an intro to shamanism last week. Even doing that joined a couple of dots up. As with plant medicine there were people from all backgrounds and ages. Wonderful to see people’s eyes being opened to a new paradigms.

[grunt]

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Anyone tried kambo?

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Kambo is usually used in a group setting, called a Kambo circle or Kambo ceremony. The effects on humans usually include tachycardia, nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea, however, a meta-review of 50 studies in which 11 cases of acute intoxication were examined^[1] found that extreme cases may include psychosis (occasionally severe), SIADH, kidney damage (including acute renal failure), pancreas damage, liver damage including toxic hepatitis, dermatomyositis, esophageal rupture, seizures, and death, although evidence for these is limited.

Sorry to be Debbie Downer, but why would anyone want to do this?

[CropleyWasGod]

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Sorry to be Debbie Downer, but why would anyone want to do this?

https://www.planetkambo.com/post/kambo-benefits

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https://www.planetkambo.com/post/kambo-benefits

Thanks. Rather you than me.

[Alex Trager]

Interesting to stumble across this at this hour. Can’t believe I’ve not seen this thread before.

I have lots to say on the subject, but I am knackered. So for the time being, I am surprised noone has mentioned the following:

From shock to awe - ayahuasca film about US veterans.
Magic medicine - psilocybin film in the UK with David Nutt about depression.

https://open.spotify.com/show/2hLSRI...tion=copy-link
- podcast with the marvellous and inspiring David Nutt, you probably recognise his name, he’ll be talked about a bit by me. He is the gateway to this knowledge for me.
Masses of guests all with different stories and different approaches to healing, or facilitating healing: psilo - aya - lsd - mdma - ketamine - mescaline - others which I can’t remember.

Chasing the scream - book - johan Hari - about the ‘war’ on drugs and it’s ridiculousness.

Drugs without the hot air - book - Pro David Nutt.

Both people can be found on YouTube on ted talks as well as other places.

Looking forward to further discussions and re reading the posts above!

[Dalianwanda]

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Interesting to stumble across this at this hour. Can’t believe I’ve not seen this thread before.

I have lots to say on the subject, but I am knackered. So for the time being, I am surprised noone has mentioned the following:

From shock to awe - ayahuasca film about US veterans.
Magic medicine - psilocybin film in the UK with David Nutt about depression.

https://open.spotify.com/show/2hLSRI...tion=copy-link
- podcast with the marvellous and inspiring David Nutt, you probably recognise his name, he’ll be talked about a bit by me. He is the gateway to this knowledge for me.
Masses of guests all with different stories and different approaches to healing, or facilitating healing: psilo - aya - lsd - mdma - ketamine - mescaline - others which I can’t remember.

Chasing the scream - book - johan Hari - about the ‘war’ on drugs and it’s ridiculousness.

Drugs without the hot air - book - Pro David Nutt.

Both people can be found on YouTube on ted talks as well as other places.

Looking forward to further discussions and re reading the posts above!

Thanks for this i’ll check them out (over time)..I signed up with Gaia when there’s loads of great docs on the subject.

I’m away next week on a huachuma men’s retreat….alternative paddy’s day weekend 😉

[Dalianwanda]

Thought this was a really nice article on Huachuma which my Irish 'guide/teacher/shaman!?' penned

https://saoro.org/2023/03/07/meeting-huachuma/

[Stairway 2 7]

https://www.theguardian.com/science/...rain-scans-dmt

Psychedelic brew ayahuasca’s profound impact revealed in brain scans
Study gives most advanced picture yet of DMT compound’s effect on advanced functions such as imagination

[Dalianwanda]

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https://www.planetkambo.com/post/kambo-benefits

I was actually on a Hauchuma ceremony at the weekend with the practitioner who i was going to work with Kambo with. He told me as I’ve gone into remission for colitis following my peru trip Kambo wasn’t needed (i thought it could kick start the immune system) as it could potentially cause a flair up.

In other news i tried jungle tobacco which was made into a liquid which you inhaled 5 or 6 times…Ive never purged so much and almost passed out..had to just lie down beside my teacher feeling fine mentally but unable to move physically..the tears that then pored out were very raw but what was left after an hour or so was pure peace . not for faint hearted but some feeling if you push through and allow it all.

[CropleyWasGod]

Interesting article.

I have an issue about some of the judgemental language, but a good read nonetheless.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65211722

[Edina Street]

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I have a friend who has used DMT, present in Ayahuasca I believe. His usage is much more recreational than spiritual but it sounds quite an amazing experience.

I'm intrigued by it but being totally honest I'm still far too nervy about it to actually try it. The complete disassociation, out of body and hallucinatory experience he describes sound like something that you either love or hate.

An ex BBC presenter went to Peru in 1990 and tripped on Ayahuasca. He came back to Britain believing the universe to be a matrix controlled by the Illuminati and reptilian shape-shifters.

He gave up his career with the BBC and became a mainstream conspiracy theorist.

That Ayahuasca must have some potency

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayahua...uasca_prep.JPG

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[camthebam]

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Thanks. Rather you than me.

i did it a couple of weeks ago. And 4 ayahuasca ceremonies and also did Bufo Alvarius which was the most profoundly beautiful thing I have experienced in my life.

Kambo was tough to experience but I felt incredible after it.

I’ll maybe write a bit on here later about it all, hadn’t noticed this thread resurfacing. My journal of it is 11,000 words long though so it’ll have to be an abridged version, lol.

[Dalianwanda]

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i did it a couple of weeks ago. And 4 ayahuasca ceremonies and also did Bufo Alvarius which was the most profoundly beautiful thing I have experienced in my life.

Kambo was tough to experience but I felt incredible after it.

I’ll maybe write a bit on here later about it all, hadn’t noticed this thread resurfacing. My journal of it is 11,000 words long though so it’ll have to be an abridged version, lol.

Would love to hear the abridged version but no rush…know it takes time 😉 Hope it was all you hoped for (sounds like it was)

i’ve 3 more weekend retreats then i’m done again for the year. One ayahuasca and 2 hauchuma (with tobacco)..