Brexit - What Now.

***Kato*** · 10-02-2023 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7

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He was happy to set up in the uk if they agreed to subsidies the shortfall from tax. There's £100 billion reasons a year to slam brexit but not this one.

Just another money hungry company going to Europe's big business tax haven in Ireland.

...and if it wasn't for those £100b reasons the UK might have been able to afford to allow some breaks.

As it is they are setting up in a country who are investing in the education of their workforce, have a history of pharma companies setting up there and have zero supply chain problems.

Are they greedy? Yes but that's capitalism.

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***Stairway 2 7*** · 10-02-2023 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by Kato

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...and if it wasn't for those £100b reasons the UK might have been able to afford to allow some breaks.

As it is they are setting up in a country who are investing in the education of their workforce, have a history of pharma companies setting up there and have zero supply chain problems.

Are they greedy? Yes but that's capitalism.

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They are going to the country with the lowest. I'd be disgusted if independent Scotland joined a race to the bottom on corporate tax. Truss wanted to lower corporate tax I'm confident she would have won az over.

Fwiw snp don't propose this in an independent Scotland which is good

***Kato*** · 10-02-2023 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7

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They are going to the country with the lowest. I'd be disgusted if independent Scotland joined a race to the bottom on corporate tax. Truss wanted to lower corporate tax I'm confident she would have won az over.

Fwiw snp don't propose this in an independent Scotland which is good

Agreed

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***grunt*** · 11-02-2023 05:18 PM

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ings-of-brexit

Revealed: secret cross-party summit held to confront failings of Brexit

The SNP's invite presumably lost in the post.

***Ozyhibby*** · 11-02-2023 05:22 PM

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ings-of-brexit

The SNP's invite presumably lost in the post.

Scotland doesn’t matter to them. Goldman Sachs do though.

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**Glory Lurker** · 11-02-2023 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

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Scotland doesn’t matter to them. Goldman Sachs do though.

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I'm sure the Labour representatives argued loudly about our omission.

**hibsbollah** · 12-02-2023 06:34 AM

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I'm sure the Labour representatives argued loudly about our omission.

Mandelson chaired. A man who’s managed to stay right at the heart of British political life despite having to resign from high office TWICE for dishonesty. Close friendship with Oleg Deripaska, a Russian oligarch sanctioned by the U.S. Mandelson also has been linked to Jeffrey Epstein, who C4 dispatches claimed he phoned while in prison in NY. Strangely, this does not seem to stop him being a constant source of comment on all things Labour-y on the Today programme. Definitely from the Teflonian wing of the Labour Party.

***grunt*** · 12-02-2023 10:31 AM

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...P=share_btn_tw

Brexit has chased away many of the big foreign firms that once used the UK as a base inside the single market and discouraged domestic firms from expanding EU trade. As self-inflicted disasters go, it ranks as one of the worst in modern economic history.

***grunt*** · 12-02-2023 12:21 PM

https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit-unsa...box=1676103282

Brexit leads to unsafe meat and African Swine Fever warnings as UK border checks on food stop

The UK was supposed to introduce its own ‘sanitary and phytosanitary’ post Brexit border checks on fresh food in July last year but then Brexit Opportunities minister Jacob Rees-Mogg scrapped the plan in April

***grunt*** · 12-02-2023 05:55 PM

I shall continue to post here whether you lot like it or not.

Here's an amusing collage I spotted about The Telegraph's ongoing series of articles about what is not to blame for our country's woes.

**WeeRussell** · 12-02-2023 05:59 PM

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I shall continue to post here whether you lot like it or not.

Here's an amusing collage I spotted about The Telegraph's ongoing series of articles about what is not to blame for our country's woes.

I, for one, really like it. Please keep it up 👍

**~~ronaldo7~~** · 13-02-2023 02:48 PM

Secret meetings of government ministers and senior Labour party members. You couldn't get a fag paper between them when it comes to Brexit.

"An extraordinary cross-party summit bringing together leading leavers and remainers – including Michael Gove and senior members of Keir Starmer’s shadow cabinet – has been held in high secrecy to address the failings of Brexit and how to remedy them in the national interest, the Observer can reveal.

The two-day gathering of some of the country’s most senior Labour and Tory politicians from both sides of the Brexit debate, together with diplomats, defence experts and the heads of some of the biggest businesses and banks, was held at the historic Ditchley Park retreat in Oxfordshire on Thursday afternoon and evening, and on Friday.
Documents from the meeting, obtained by the Observer, describe it as a “private discussion” under the title: “How can we make Brexit work better with our neighbours in Europe?”

Those in attendance from the pro-Brexit side included the former Tory party leader Michael Howard, former Tory chancellor Norman Lamont and former Labour Europe minister Gisela Stuart, one of the leading figures of the leave campaign.

Among the prominent remainer politicians present were shadow foreign secretary David Lammy, shadow defence secretary John Healey and the former European commissioner and Labour cabinet minister Peter Mandelson, who acted as chairman. From the Tory remainer camp, the ex-cabinet minister and long-serving minister for Europe, David Lidington, attended."

***Just Alf*** · 13-02-2023 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by ronaldo7

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Secret meetings of government ministers and senior Labour party members. You couldn't get a fag paper between them when it comes to Brexit.

"An extraordinary cross-party summit bringing together leading leavers and remainers – including Michael Gove and senior members of Keir Starmer’s shadow cabinet – has been held in high secrecy to address the failings of Brexit and how to remedy them in the national interest, the Observer can reveal.

The two-day gathering of some of the country’s most senior Labour and Tory politicians from both sides of the Brexit debate, together with diplomats, defence experts and the heads of some of the biggest businesses and banks, was held at the historic Ditchley Park retreat in Oxfordshire on Thursday afternoon and evening, and on Friday.
Documents from the meeting, obtained by the Observer, describe it as a “private discussion” under the title: “How can we make Brexit work better with our neighbours in Europe?”

Those in attendance from the pro-Brexit side included the former Tory party leader Michael Howard, former Tory chancellor Norman Lamont and former Labour Europe minister Gisela Stuart, one of the leading figures of the leave campaign.

Among the prominent remainer politicians present were shadow foreign secretary David Lammy, shadow defence secretary John Healey and the former European commissioner and Labour cabinet minister Peter Mandelson, who acted as chairman. From the Tory remainer camp, the ex-cabinet minister and long-serving minister for Europe, David Lidington, attended."

This is the sort of thing that should have been going on when the Brexit deal was being created/negotiated.

**~~ronaldo7~~** · 13-02-2023 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by Just Alf

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This is the sort of thing that should have been going on when the Brexit deal was being created/negotiated.

They were too busy holding all the cards, and having all the cake to eat.

Smoke filled rooms is where we're now at.

The EU will be quaking in their boots.

***grunt*** · 14-02-2023 01:39 PM

The Turing scheme causing funding "nightmares" for universities, with students choosing between food and rent as they wait for far smaller funds than they would have got in the (quote) "much larger EU Erasmus+ scheme"

***Stairway 2 7*** · 14-02-2023 02:56 PM

Get the popcorn and watch the rage next week from the mail, the Tory ERG , unionists in Northern Ireland ect

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...otocol-deal-eu

Deal on Northern Ireland protocol could be struck next week

***Bostonhibby*** · 14-02-2023 03:03 PM

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They were too busy holding all the cards, and having all the cake to eat.

Smoke filled rooms is where we're now at.

The EU will be quaking in their boots.

We're going to increase the number of union Jack's we wave, and to show we mean business most of them will be the right way up this time around.

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***Ozyhibby*** · 14-02-2023 03:08 PM

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Get the popcorn and watch the rage next week from the mail, the Tory ERG , unionists in Northern Ireland ect

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...otocol-deal-eu

Deal on Northern Ireland protocol could be struck next week

Can’t see how the DUP accept, but then who really cares about them anyway?

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***Stairway 2 7*** · 14-02-2023 03:13 PM

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Can’t see how the DUP accept, but then who really cares about them anyway?

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Certainly not me and I doubt the vast majority of tories, they were the useful idiots when the tories need them. The ERG are powerful in bigots though and could cause uproar next week. Hopefully lots of political bloodshed.

Of course the deal will be like putting on a plaster to the gun shot wound that is Brexit

***grunt*** · 14-02-2023 03:20 PM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64623488

Brexit hit UK investment by £29bn, says Bank of England policymaker

***grunt*** · 14-02-2023 03:22 PM

https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/s...__jhTu7xr5runA

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You cannot succeed if your own team are playing against you.

***Kato*** · 14-02-2023 03:40 PM

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https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/s...__jhTu7xr5runA

It's almost as though they have s template to wreck the country.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_...ign_Individual

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***Stairway 2 7*** · 14-02-2023 03:47 PM

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Can’t see how the DUP accept, but then who really cares about them anyway?

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Like to see the details on how

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business/brexit/new-ni-protocol-deal-will-meet-all-the-dups-seven-red-lines-reports/291961277.html

New NI Protocol deal will meet all the DUP’s seven red lines: reports
Detailed briefing showing how the deal meets the red lines are set to be published alongside the announcement.

***grunt*** · 14-02-2023 03:54 PM

https://www.bestforbritain.org/mel_s...f_after_brexit

Despite the UK Government's previous statements and current position, the Secretary of State for the Department of Work and Pensions, Mel Stride today confirmed that 'friction' with the EU due to Brexit has had impact on UK economy.

“This belated admission will have a bitter taste for the public particularly while Mr Stride’s Cabinet colleagues continue to claim the exact opposite. In the national interest politicians must start being honest about Brexit and urgently begin repairing the damage."

***grunt*** · 14-02-2023 04:41 PM

The last straw?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-64628821

Marwell lonely giraffe victim of post-Brexit red tape

***Ozyhibby*** · 16-02-2023 02:26 PM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politi...gn=Social_Flow

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***Kato*** · 16-02-2023 02:51 PM

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politi...gn=Social_Flow

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A "woke" judge no doubt.

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***Stairway 2 7*** · 16-02-2023 04:32 PM

Surprised to not hear from the idiots of the ERG yet, seems a deal is days away

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