Hibs Women

[Northernhibee]

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Micky's signed on till 2025. Brilliant news for the club.

Was a worry we'd lose her in the summer. I'd expect the deal would be enough to see off most suitors for now.

Great news, rate her really highly.

[hibby rae]

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Great news, rate her really highly.

She should have been given a Scotland call by now, she's earned it.

I'm not sure when Leah Eddie's deal runs to at the moment, but I'd be making her next order of business.

And the long shot of extending Parry's loan.

[Eyrie]

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Micky's signed on till 2025. Brilliant news for the club.

Was a worry we'd lose her in the summer. I'd expect the deal would be enough to see off most suitors for now.

That's good news.

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Hunter fit for the weekend ��

As is this. it looked nasty on the highlights.

[PHeffernan]

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Good win in the end, weird starting 11 though.

Horror of a challenge on Shiv so could be out for a bit there.

Huns next, but Hearts have Glasgow City. We now have better goal difference, so if we win at Tynie, and Smally being back is a massive boost, we'll go into 4th.

For me Hearts with a 3 point lead have 4th in the bag.

Both teams have 5 games to play.
Hibs have a 3 goal better goal difference but Hearts will beat Glasgow Women by double that number.

Hibs are likely not to beat Celtic or Rangers.
Hearts are likely to lose to Glasgow City.
If Hearts win their other 3 games they can lose to Hibs and still be almost guaranteed to finish ahead of them.

Best case scenario is probably going into the last game equal on points but behind Hearts on goal difference.
Hibs play Celtic on the last day and Hearts play Spartans.
Can't see us bettering Hearts result.

Do Hearts Women have a bigger budget than Hibs Women?
They have certainly improved big time this season.

I'm surprised that Glasgow City are still holding of the OF clubs now that they have started chucking money at their teams.

[hibby rae]

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For me Hearts with a 3 point lead have 4th in the bag.

Both teams have 5 games to play.
Hibs have a 3 goal better goal difference but Hearts will beat Glasgow Women by double that number.

Hibs are likely not to beat Celtic or Rangers.
Hearts are likely to lose to Glasgow City.
If Hearts win their other 3 games they can lose to Hibs and still be almost guaranteed to finish ahead of them.

Best case scenario is probably going into the last game equal on points but behind Hearts on goal difference.
Hibs play Celtic on the last day and Hearts play Spartans.
Can't see us bettering Hearts result.

Do Hearts Women have a bigger budget than Hibs Women?
They have certainly improved big time this season.

I'm surprised that Glasgow City are still holding of the OF clubs now that they have started chucking money at their teams.

Have you taken the post split fixtures into account?

Unlikely Hearts have a bigger budget, but they do have a better coach imo. Glasgow City get funding from James Anderson.

As an aside, Hearts have never beat Spartans.

[PHeffernan]

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Have you taken the post split fixtures into account?

Unlikely Hearts have a bigger budget, but they do have a better coach imo. Glasgow City get funding from James Anderson.

As an aside, Hearts have never beat Spartans.

You obviously know what you are talking about and I don't .
I thought 22 wasn't many games right enough so a split makes perfect sense.

I agree with you Hearts have a better coach and I expect them to beat Spartans for the first time in their next meeting.

Re the Anderson funding of Glasgow City, i'm okay with that halting as it does a Rantic take over.
I see they beat Hearts 0-3 tonight.

What's your prediction for tomorrow nights game?

[hibby rae]

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You obviously know what you are talking about and I don't .
I thought 22 wasn't many games right enough so a split makes perfect sense.

I agree with you Hearts have a better coach and I expect them to beat Spartans for the first time in their next meeting.

Re the Anderson funding of Glasgow City, i'm okay with that halting as it does a Rantic take over.
I see they beat Hearts 0-3 tonight.

What's your prediction for tomorrow nights game?

On recent showings maybe a narrow Rangers win. The last couple defeats have come through high quality finishes, the league being a direct FK (unlucky not to get a point in that game) and the cup final had an absolute worldy from Lizzie Arbot, although Gibson also had the wrong game plan that day.

Hopefully the weather conditions are ***** to make it a bit more of a lottery.

[PHeffernan]

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On recent showings maybe a narrow Rangers win. The last couple defeats have come through high quality finishes, the league being a direct FK (unlucky not to get a point in that game) and the cup final had an absolute worldy from Lizzie Arbot, although Gibson also had the wrong game plan that day.

Hopefully the weather conditions are ***** to make it a bit more of a lottery.

A couple of questions for you.

Are Hibs likely to replace their manager for next season or is Dean Gibson improving?

Will this be the Joelle Murray's final season?
At 36 she has been at Hibs for 24 years next season would make it an even quarter century.
She is Mrs Hibs to Pat Stanton's Mr Hibs.


P.S. afraid the weather is fine for tonights match in Glasgow.

[hibby rae]

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A couple of questions for you.

Are Hibs likely to replace their manager for next season or is Dean Gibson improving?

Will this be the Joelle Murray's final season?
At 36 she has been at Hibs for 24 years next season would make it an even quarter century.
She is Mrs Hibs to Pat Stanton's Mr Hibs.


P.S. afraid the weather is fine for tonights match in Glasgow.

First one, I think we'd have to finish below 4th for there to be a change, as I think that top 4 must have been the league target, but even then your guess is as good as mine. I think someone like Brian Graham could be worth a look though.

On Joelle, I wouldn't have thought so. She's still got what's needed to play at this level, might not be every game though. It's only fairly recently the seasons have become longer so the same toll probably hasn't been taken on her body, plus I think she's always been very professional in looking after herself even when the team were still amateurs.

[PHeffernan]

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First one, I think we'd have to finish below 4th for there to be a change, as I think that top 4 must have been the league target, but even then your guess is as good as mine. I think someone like Brian Graham could be worth a look though.

On Joelle, I wouldn't have thought so. She's still got what's needed to play at this level, might not be every game though. It's only fairly recently the seasons have become longer so the same toll probably hasn't been taken on her body, plus I think she's always been very professional in looking after herself even when the team were still amateurs.

I did listen to an interview with Brian Graham not long after he started coaching the Partick Thisle womens team. He enjoyed the job and had a good manner about him which the players seemed to like. There was even a bit of banter with him about his performances for the mens team.
Hearts have obviously paid a chunk of money to bring in a high profile coach. Suspect Gibson is paid far less by Hibs and the teams are neck and neck.
Hearts have improved every year from a low level to now matching Hibs and it will be interesting to see if they can continue that progression next season or whether 4th is the ceiling (as Hibs Women have found) behind the Glasgow clubs.
On that subject, we have very quickly reached a point in the Scottish women's game where money is now what dictates the finishing spots of the top 5 clubs. Just like the mens game the Edinburgh teams are competing to be the best of the also rans.

[Pete70]

Tonight’s match v Rangers is live on BBC Alba from 7:30pm

[Oscar T Grouch]

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Have you taken the post split fixtures into account?

Unlikely Hearts have a bigger budget, but they do have a better coach imo. Glasgow City get funding from James Anderson.

As an aside, Hearts have never beat Spartans.

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At the December 2018 AGM, Hearts owner Ann Budge announced a "six-figure investment year on year" into Hearts Women, alongside an expansion to their academy in order to integrate the women's team further into the club. Hearts intended to "invest significantly in women and girls' football in 2019 and beyond".

I think that is a much bigger budget than Hibs is it not?

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At the December 2018 AGM, Hearts owner Ann Budge announced a "six-figure investment year on year" into Hearts Women, alongside an expansion to their academy in order to integrate the women's team further into the club. Hearts intended to "invest significantly in women and girls' football in 2019 and beyond".

I think that is a much bigger budget than Hibs is it not?

Did that actually happen though?

But that could just be 100k for we know?

[hibby rae]

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I did listen to an interview with Brian Graham not long after he started coaching the Partick Thisle womens team. He enjoyed the job and had a good manner about him which the players seemed to like. There was even a bit of banter with him about his performances for the mens team.
Hearts have obviously paid a chunk of money to bring in a high profile coach. Suspect Gibson is paid far less by Hibs and the teams are neck and neck.
Hearts have improved every year from a low level to now matching Hibs and it will be interesting to see if they can continue that progression next season or whether 4th is the ceiling (as Hibs Women have found) behind the Glasgow clubs.
On that subject, we have very quickly reached a point in the Scottish women's game where money is now what dictates the finishing spots of the top 5 clubs. Just like the mens game the Edinburgh teams are competing to be the best of the also rans.

Might be, might not. It's possible they have just promoted from within cause they were seeking a legacy route etc.

Hibs have brought players in we wouldn't have been able to previously. I think we have the better players than Hearts, but they have the better coach. With the investment that went in, we should at least be in 4th and been closer to the Weegie gap.

[PHeffernan]

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At the December 2018 AGM, Hearts owner Ann Budge announced a "six-figure investment year on year" into Hearts Women, alongside an expansion to their academy in order to integrate the women's team further into the club. Hearts intended to "invest significantly in women and girls' football in 2019 and beyond".

I think that is a much bigger budget than Hibs is it not?

That was Ann Budge speaking in 2019 and as ever there were no specifics.
What we have seen is Hearts Women improving year on year from a very low starting position to a point in 2023 where they have caught up with Hibs Women.
The interesting part as I said earlier is whether having reached 4th do they accept that as their level or are they are willing to spend big to close the ever widening gap to the 3 Glasgow teams who are currently cemented at the top of the league.

[GreenCastle]

Supposedly Hearts are going full time with their women’s team next season.

Also they have completely landed on their feet with the men and womens side with Oriam and location. Claiming it’s the Hearts Academy etc.

Hearts are desperate to be above Hibs at all age groups girls and women - hopefully Hibs get their act together as they missed the boat several years ago and Hearts have the momentum right now.

Both clubs are pumping money into their women’s sections - you just have to look at the recent job postings for salary - not life changing but miles ahead of many other clubs in SWPL but not as much as City, Rangers and Celtic.

[PHeffernan]

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Supposedly Hearts are going full time with their women’s team next season.

Also they have completely landed on their feet with the men and womens side with Oriam and location. Claiming it’s the Hearts Academy etc.

Hearts are desperate to be above Hibs at all age groups girls and women - hopefully Hibs get their act together as they missed the boat several years ago and Hearts have the momentum right now.

Both clubs are pumping money into their women’s sections - you just have to look at the recent job postings for salary - not life changing but miles ahead of many other clubs in SWPL but not as much as City, Rangers and Celtic.

Success is predominately to do with money.
The 3 top teams in the womans league spend the most money.
Hibs and Hearts the next most. Hearts the club have far more money than Hibs the club so are likely to spend more money on their womens team than Hibs moving forward. Aberdeen could potentially spend money on their womens team and become the 6th force.
One things for sure the standard of the players, the teams and the league are improving every season.

[green day]

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Supposedly Hearts are going full time with their women’s team next season.

It sounds like a complete money pit without much payback to me...............

[PHeffernan]

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It sounds like a complete money pit without much payback to me...............

Hearts won't really go full time as we recognise it in the mens game.
Their coach will be full time at the moment but will do a load of other jobs other than coaching the 1st team.
I would imagine Joelle Murray is Hibs only full timer and that doubles up with her work for the Community Foundation.
As you suggest putting large amounts of money into the womens game at the moment is a money pit given that paying supporter numbers are still negligable. I suspect the clubs make ends meet by hitting various Scottish Government, SFA, UEFA etc funding streams as well as getting donations from philanthropist James Anderson.
The womens game will continue to grow and the womens game in Scotland will continue to grow, especially at grass roots level.
However, the elephant in the room is will decent crowds ever be willing to pay to attend womens club games in Scotland.

[Eyrie]

Depends on how you define "decent crowds".

In a few years the women's game will see regular crowds on a par with the First and Second Divisions and bigger games such as the derby will attract larger crowds. November's match at Easter Road may have been free but I'd have had no problem paying to attend and I wouldn't be the only one.

[PHeffernan]

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Depends on how you define "decent crowds".

In a few years the women's game will see regular crowds on a par with the First and Second Divisions and bigger games such as the derby will attract larger crowds. November's match at Easter Road may have been free but I'd have had no problem paying to attend and I wouldn't be the only one.

Average attendances in the 3rd tier of Scottish football this season are 1500.
Currently Hibs Womens games at Meadowbank mostly appear to be attended by friends and family of the players and coaches.
I hope you are right because 1500 paying supporters at Womens games in Scotland in a couple of years would be fantastic but I can't see it myself.

[Donegal Hibby]

Another awful pitch Hibs playing on . Who's ground is it ?

[hibby rae]

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Another awful pitch Hibs playing on . Who's ground is it ?

It's at Broadwood

[hibby rae]

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Average attendances in the 3rd tier of Scottish football this season are 1500.
Currently Hibs Womens games at Meadowbank mostly appear to be attended by friends and family of the players and coaches.
I hope you are right because 1500 paying supporters at Womens games in Scotland in a couple of years would be fantastic but I can't see it myself.

3rd tier is skewed this season by having Dunfy, Falkirk, and QoS though.

Hibs women get a decent amount at Meadowbank, numbers will only improve too

[Brightside]

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At the December 2018 AGM, Hearts owner Ann Budge announced a "six-figure investment year on year" into Hearts Women, alongside an expansion to their academy in order to integrate the women's team further into the club. Hearts intended to "invest significantly in women and girls' football in 2019 and beyond".

I think that is a much bigger budget than Hibs is it not?

6 figure budget covers all the age groups and renting all the pitches etc. it’s nothing.

[Brightside]

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Hearts won't really go full time as we recognise it in the mens game.
Their coach will be full time at the moment but will do a load of other jobs other than coaching the 1st team.
I would imagine Joelle Murray is Hibs only full timer and that doubles up with her work for the Community Foundation.
As you suggest putting large amounts of money into the womens game at the moment is a money pit given that paying supporter numbers are still negligable. I suspect the clubs make ends meet by hitting various Scottish Government, SFA, UEFA etc funding streams as well as getting donations from philanthropist James Anderson.
The womens game will continue to grow and the womens game in Scotland will continue to grow, especially at grass roots level.
However, the elephant in the room is will decent crowds ever be willing to pay to attend womens club games in Scotland.

That’s not correct. Re full time at Hibs. Are you thinking the foreign players are working in macdonalds at night?

[Northernhibee]

Some really poor refereeing decisions going in Rangers favour.

Not that anyone is surprised.

[Brightside]

Decent first half from Hibs. Couple of defensive slips letting rangers in. Setup is working against a team that’s clearly much better. Need to try and get them on the break.

[PHeffernan]

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3rd tier is skewed this season by having Dunfy, Falkirk, and QoS though.

Hibs women get a decent amount at Meadowbank, numbers will only improve too

Certainly skewed by by Dunfermline and Falkirk.
Dunfermline have higher average attendances than Livingston and Ross County.

Ranger 4 nil up, game over.

[Northernhibee]

Awful second goal to concede.