SNP are lying b******s as well !

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Given your track record of the law as it applies in Scotland I'd suggest you're on shakey ground.

Really �� … yawn….like to add some substance to your allegation

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I've asked this if you before and you keep blanking it. Can you give us all some perspective on the aircraft carriers and Ajax armoured vehicles as you are such an expert on procurement and completion of public projects. I won't hold my breath

I'm not blanking it. I just don't see the need to balance up any comment which paints the SG in a bad light with an acknowledgement of UK government screw-ups - especially on a thread with a title like this one. It goes without saying there are all manner of projects which governments of all political persuasions have made a complete mess of.

My most recent dig was also meant to be a bit light-hearted but I appreciate that can be hard to get away with on here.

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I'm not blanking it. I just don't see the need to balance up any comment which paints the SG in a bad light with an acknowledgement of UK government screw-ups - especially on a thread with a title like this one. It goes without saying there are all manner of projects which governments of all political persuasions have made a complete mess of.

My most recent dig was also meant to be a bit light-hearted but I appreciate that can be hard to get away with on here.

It isnt right to balance criticism of the Scottish Govt with criticism of the Govt which holds the purse strings?

Ok.

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It isnt right to balance criticism of the Scottish Govt with criticism of the Govt which holds the purse strings?

Ok.

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Not what I wrote.

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Isn't it a shame that nowadays people's first reaction is to disbelieve the politician's explanation?

Normally because they are lying. This guy never resigned for personal reasons like what he said, he resigned as he was trying to play detective and made a mess of it. Most politicians are the same, from all parties.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/s...ce=twitter.com

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Most politicians are the same, from all parties.

That's just your whataboutery to justify for yourself your hatred of the SNP. They are not all the same.
This Conservative Party is a trash pit. There's no comparison.

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Most politicians are the same, from all parties.

Voting for the worst of them, then convincing yourself that they're all just as bad. It's a common tory trope.

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Isn't it a shame that nowadays people's first reaction is to disbelieve the politician's explanation?

I will continue to doubt politicians

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Voting for the worst of them, then convincing yourself that they're all just as bad. It's a common tory trope.

They are all a bunch of neoliberal bafoons with the tories the worst by a country mile. Labour and snp centre verging on centre right, this tory government a big way to right, Corbyns Labour was far to the left of all three

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They are all a bunch of neoliberal bafoons with the tories the worst by a country mile. Labour and snp centre verging on centre right, this tory government a big way to right, Corbyns Labour was far to the left of all three

The Labour Party is well to the right of the SNP.


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The Labour Party is well to the right of the SNP.


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Nah. They are left and right of each other on different subjects but a fag paper between them.

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Nah. They are left and right of each other on different subjects but a fag paper between them.

I’m struggling to see where Labour are left of the SNP?


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I imagine Sturgeon would have liked to blame the BBC for putting words in her mouth, but she's gone with 'bad phrasing'. Better than the awful US-style 'mis-spoke' claims which have gained credence among politicians in recent years I guess:

https://twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/s...JURwnNn3qol-pw

Do you think she wants to lower age to 16 or is it just bad phrasing? It can only be one or the other?


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I’m struggling to see where Labour are left of the SNP?


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Labour in Wales listened to the Scottish common weal and are going to set up energy company, the same as starmers proposal. This is a vehicle to getting the profits from renewables.

Snp sold of the future profits in renewables to help make BP and shell more billions, against common weal pleading. It's the oil all over again, companies getting profits from our national resources.

You'll come back and defend that as its your beloved but its all groundhog day stuff. Labour and snp are two bald men fighting over a comb, both neoliberal, centre ,big business, but pretend to be left.

I want independence so there is a faint chance of a left wing alternative

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Do you think she wants to lower age to 16 or is it just bad phrasing? It can only be one or the other?


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I posted this on the wrong thread by mistake so moved it to the BBC one. But I think the answer is she's struggling to come up with a coherent justification for her gender reform bill and got herself in a muddle.

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I posted this on the wrong thread by mistake so moved it to the BBC one. But I think the answer is she's struggling to come up with a coherent justification for her gender reform bill and got herself in a muddle.

Hardly a muddle. Her wording could have been better, but it was still blatantly obvious what she meant within the full context of what she said. Just as it was blatantly obvious what the BBC were trying to do here with their selective quoting in order to alter that context.

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That's just your whataboutery to justify for yourself your hatred of the SNP. They are not all the same.
This Conservative Party is a trash pit. There's no comparison.

I tend to agree, previous conservative governments had many policies and behaviours I disagreed with but there was never such a blatant disregard for openly poor behaviour and subsequently fighting to cover it up as there has recently been, sacking and resignation standards have plummeted.

Nasty Party conservatism is about a privileged elite all at the same trough and participating in a far broader spectrum of lying, sleight of hand and outright thievery.

It's why they have no time to effectively run the country and the economy and we are trapped in a knee jerk political cycle.

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It's why they have no time to effectively run the country and the economy and we are trapped in a knee jerk political cycle.

It's not just about a lack of time to properly run the country. They are intellectually poor, have no policies other than self-profiting, and they do not listen to good advice. The Truss Government was a prime example of their wrong-headedness but it's been the case for this Conservative Party for many years.

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Labour in Wales listened to the Scottish common weal and are going to set up energy company, the same as starmers proposal. This is a vehicle to getting the profits from renewables.

Snp sold of the future profits in renewables to help make BP and shell more billions, against common weal pleading. It's the oil all over again, companies getting profits from our national resources.

You'll come back and defend that as its your beloved but its all groundhog day stuff. Labour and snp are two bald men fighting over a comb, both neoliberal, centre ,big business, but pretend to be left.

I want independence so there is a faint chance of a left wing alternative

How many times are you going to come out with this guff? They leased the rights to the seabed and will reap the benefits of energy generation in the future!

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Good luck to all those striking today ✊️

https://mobile.twitter.com/lindasome...75671368577027

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Good luck to all those striking today ✊️

https://mobile.twitter.com/lindasome...75671368577027

Yep, halfway point of the 16-day strike action across Scottish schools. 22 more to follow in a few more weeks unless the SG do something more than point out that teachers in England are also planning to strike.

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Yep, halfway point of the 16-day strike action across Scottish schools. 22 more to follow in a few more weeks unless the SG do something more than point out that teachers in England are also planning to strike.

Which makes sense, considering the funding structure for all devolved sectors in Scotland are directly linked to funding availability for those equivalent sectors in England. Unless the UK Government coughs up more for teachers, nurses and other public sector workers in England, there will be no improved offers made in Scotland, it's as simple as that.

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Which makes sense, considering the funding structure for all devolved sectors in Scotland are directly linked to funding availability for those equivalent sectors in England. Unless the UK Government coughs up more for teachers, nurses and other public sector workers in England, there will be no improved offers made in Scotland, it's as simple as that.

Nonsense. It's groundhog day but.. we have a budget it's £2000 per head bigger per year per person than England's also. They can decide how that budget is spent, they have chosen to let public sector wages be decimated. The budget has rose roughly in line with inflation in the last 10 years but teachers wages have dropped 28% in real terms in that time.

They afforded to pay 28% more 10 years ago and have chosen to use the money elsewhere since. That may be correct but to say we had no choice is nonsence. When will snp cultist wake up and say blaming England for everything doesn't wash

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Nonsense. It's groundhog day but.. we have a budget it's £2000 per head bigger per year per person than England's also.

Ah yes, that old chestnut. It makes a great headline doesn't it? Without ever bothering to go into the actual details behind why this may actually be the case, rather than just assuming that it's the generosity of the charitable tories at Westminster.

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They afforded to pay 28% more 10 years ago and have chosen to use the money elsewhere since.

Chosen? Or ultimately pressured into doing so, following over 10 years of a purely ideologically motivated austerity agenda from Westminster?

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Ah yes, that old chestnut. It makes a great headline doesn't it? Without ever bothering to go into the actual details behind why this may actually be the case, rather than just assuming that it's the generosity of the charitable tories at Westminster.



Chosen? Or ultimately pressured into doing so, following over 10 years of a purely ideologically motivated austerity agenda from Westminster?

Chosen the budget has went up with inflation but wages dropped. That chestnut is a simple fact, its because we're doing worse. I believe we're better independent even if we won't be financially in the years proceeding, but that's a separate story

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Which makes sense, considering the funding structure for all devolved sectors in Scotland are directly linked to funding availability for those equivalent sectors in England. Unless the UK Government coughs up more for teachers, nurses and other public sector workers in England, there will be no improved offers made in Scotland, it's as simple as that.

Ah that old easy Westminster get-out chestnut. Except that's not how it works. Stairway 27's 'chestnut' is the correct one. These lengthy teaching strikes, the first in Scotland for 40 years, are the SG's to own. I work in the sector and nobody within it is blaming Westminster for this mess.

Sturgeon needs to get rid of Somerville ASAP if she's serious about trying to resolve this.

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Ah that old easy Westminster get-out chestnut. Except that's not how it works. Stairway 27's 'chestnut' is the correct one. These lengthy teaching strikes, the first in Scotland for 40 years, are the SG's to own. I work in the sector and nobody within it is blaming Westminster for this mess.

Sturgeon needs to get rid of Somerville ASAP if she's serious about trying to resolve this.

I couldn't care less who people blame, for me it's about who is actually to blame. I'm sure the brexiteer fishermen blame the SNP for the dire impacts of brexit on the fishing sector for example. Easier to do that than to self reflect and face up to the reality of being on the wrong side of the fence.

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Ah that old easy Westminster get-out chestnut. Except that's not how it works. Stairway 27's 'chestnut' is the correct one. These lengthy teaching strikes, the first in Scotland for 40 years, are the SG's to own. I work in the sector and nobody within it is blaming Westminster for this mess.

Sturgeon needs to get rid of Somerville ASAP if she's serious about trying to resolve this.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-64406674

The same Somerville?

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How many times are you going to come out with this guff? They leased the rights to the seabed and will reap the benefits of energy generation in the future!

If public money isn’t going into Captur Al investment then private equity has to. And they want a return. Leasing gives the investment, private venture makes a Buck and we (the people) get new infrastructure.

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I couldn't care less who people blame, for me it's about who is actually to blame. I'm sure the brexiteer fishermen blame the SNP for the dire impacts of brexit on the fishing sector for example. Easier to do that than to self reflect and face up to the reality of being on the wrong side of the fence.

Every man and his horse knew the fishermen were going to get shafted. Except for the fishermen. Bought into, and perpetuated the lie of Brexit. Fishermen were the flag carriers of Brexit. The more sensible and self reflective surely must have come to the conclusion that they were sold a pup. That will make them embarrassed at best, lost their livelihood at worst, especially the shellfish fishermen. Zero market, zero job.

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