SNP are lying b******s as well !

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I've asked this if you before and you keep blanking it. Can you give us all some perspective on the aircraft carriers and Ajax armoured vehicles as you are such an expert on procurement and completion of public projects. I won't hold my breath

My perspective is it's really poor, generally governments are really bad at this kind of thing and we all deserve better. Do you expect people to say anything other than that? Like what a great job the government is doing wasting millions of pounds?

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I've asked this if you before and you keep blanking it. Can you give us all some perspective on the aircraft carriers and Ajax armoured vehicles as you are such an expert on procurement and completion of public projects. I won't hold my breath

I think this response demonstrates why this is a humour free zone these days. It wasn’t the funniest joke ever but it was mildly amusing. That’s how points used to be made on here, with a bit of humour , often self deprecating.
I’d love to see us return to that rather than the Twitter style aggression we are getting now. C’mon guys, we can all do better.

The is not a dig at you weecounty, honest. I include myself in those who need to lighten up a bit more. Geez, the Tories give us plenty of material.

[weecounty hibby]

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I think this response demonstrates why this is a humour free zone these days. It wasn’t the funniest joke ever but it was mildly amusing. That’s how points used to be made on here, with a bit of humour , often self deprecating.
I’d love to see us return to that rather than the Twitter style aggression we are getting now. C’mon guys, we can all do better.

The is not a dig at you weecounty, honest. I include myself in those who need to lighten up a bit more. Geez, the Tories give us plenty of material.

I get it and often the written word just doesn't come across as its intended. But that particular poster only ever posts snp/sg bad links and doesn't even respond when asked about other areas. Still a struggle to laugh at anything that is being made out to be an improvement when the cold hard facts are that overall Scotland is worse off due to the European v levelling up grants. Tens of millions of pounds down and losing control. Hard to laugh really.
In answer to James, no I dont expect anyone to say it's good but a but of perspective is required when discussing how good or bad projects have been. It can't all be SG is pish but let's ignore the billions wasted by Westminster. And for me it's a new thing. As an independence supporter I was chuffed to buts when we got our own parliament. As an SNP supporters I campaigned for the party but when Labour were in power I was mostly very supportive of the sg. Now it appears that all the opposition parties have us to try to denigrate everything the SG does. Scotland isn't all bad and not everything we do is pish, but looking in on here and tye MSM you'd be forgiven for thinking it was. With the obvious exception of the SNP support. As a mid 50s politically active person I have never seen so many people so excited when things go wrong.

Rail strikes? SNP need to sort it! SNP sorted it, let's now ignore that. Health? Ditto. Prison Officers, same. It must be difficult being so negative about everything all the time.

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I think this response demonstrates why this is a humour free zone these days. It wasn’t the funniest joke ever but it was mildly amusing. That’s how points used to be made on here, with a bit of humour , often self deprecating.
I’d love to see us return to that rather than the Twitter style aggression we are getting now. C’mon guys, we can all do better.

The is not a dig at you weecounty, honest. I include myself in those who need to lighten up a bit more. Geez, the Tories give us plenty of material.

As another reply as well. I can be a right miserable ******* as well tho😀

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As another reply as well. I can be a right miserable ******* as well tho😀

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I get it and often the written word just doesn't come across as its intended. But that particular poster only ever posts snp/sg bad links and doesn't even respond when asked about other areas. Still a struggle to laugh at anything that is being made out to be an improvement when the cold hard facts are that overall Scotland is worse off due to the European v levelling up grants. Tens of millions of pounds down and losing control. Hard to laugh really.
In answer to James, no I dont expect anyone to say it's good but a but of perspective is required when discussing how good or bad projects have been. It can't all be SG is pish but let's ignore the billions wasted by Westminster. And for me it's a new thing. As an independence supporter I was chuffed to buts when we got our own parliament. As an SNP supporters I campaigned for the party but when Labour were in power I was mostly very supportive of the sg. Now it appears that all the opposition parties have us to try to denigrate everything the SG does. Scotland isn't all bad and not everything we do is pish, but looking in on here and tye MSM you'd be forgiven for thinking it was. With the obvious exception of the SNP support. As a mid 50s politically active person I have never seen so many people so excited when things go wrong.

Rail strikes? SNP need to sort it! SNP sorted it, let's now ignore that. Health? Ditto. Prison Officers, same. It must be difficult being so negative about everything all the time.

When the Scottish Parliament was launched it was in the main a place of hope and potential, in the early years it did some really great things like the smoking ban, building the new Forth Road Bridge etc and there was talented politicians in the Parliament.

Now all I see is constant fighting and petty constitutional point scoring from all parties, and the talent...well there is very little of it in any party. Most of the questions are planted or pre scripted and they repeat the same things over and over. It's stale and boring now.

Of course we have different views but I want both governments to work together, that's kind of what devolution was about for me, we get control of things more locally like health and education but we also benefit from being part of something larger as well and the benefits that brings.

We do however live in Scotland, pay our taxes in Scotland, and the vast majority of our services are managed by a Scottish Government so people will criticise the Scottish Government, why wouldn't they? That's healthy yes? I think part of that comes from the picture that some paint that Scotland is somehow different and better than everyone, Scottish exceptionalism is it called? So when something goes wrong people will point and go look see your just as bad as everyone else. If you (not you personally) are going to bang on about how we in Scotland are better and different then when things go wrong it will be amplified, see the Ferries.

We can criticise both governments though when we are being let down by them both.

All in my opinion of course...

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When the Scottish Parliament was launched it was in the main a place of hope and potential, in the early years it did some really great things like the smoking ban, building the new Forth Road Bridge etc and there was talented politicians in the Parliament.

Now all I see is constant fighting and petty constitutional point scoring from all parties, and the talent...well there is very little of it in any party. Most of the questions are planted or pre scripted and they repeat the same things over and over. It's stale and boring now.

Of course we have different views but I want both governments to work together, that's kind of what devolution was about for me, we get control of things more locally like health and education but we also benefit from being part of something larger as well and the benefits that brings.

We do however live in Scotland, pay our taxes in Scotland, and the vast majority of our services are managed by a Scottish Government so people will criticise the Scottish Government, why wouldn't they? That's healthy yes? I think part of that comes from the picture that some paint that Scotland is somehow different and better than everyone, Scottish exceptionalism is it called? So when something goes wrong people will point and go look see your just as bad as everyone else. If you (not you personally) are going to bang on about how we in Scotland are better and different then when things go wrong it will be amplified, see the Ferries.

We can criticise both governments though when we are being let down by them both.

All in my opinion of course...

Vast majority of taxes are paid to London. We get some of that sent back.


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[James310]

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Vast majority of taxes are paid to London. We get some of that sent back.


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We get more back than we send, or is the below wrong? Tell me how it's wrong if you believe that to be the case.

https://theferret.scot/claim-scotlan...ts-back-false/


But you make my point for me, it's the same old stale arguments over and over. Next it will be tell us the benefits of the Union, someone will list some and they will be ignored and then someone will say something else that has been gone over thousands of times before.

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This must be the reason there are so few Tory comedians. Maybe have to call you the chuckle brothers from now on.

Could be even funnier, in an ironically expensive to the taxpayer sort of way, if UK government just decided to do away with a properly controlled tendering process again and just had one of their Lord Deighton type payolas for the favoured few?

Surely Baroness Mone could give wee Gove another quick ring and promise to rustle up a couple of overpriced battleships and a couple of aircraft carriers?

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Why would anyone be pleased at that news?

Your earlier posts appeared to be very happy that Westminster was allocating the levelling up funds in the way they were. So presumably you're happy that the King's didn't get any.

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But you make my point for me, it's the same old stale arguments over and over. Next it will be tell us the benefits of the Union, someone will list some and they will be ignored and then someone will say something else that has been gone over thousands of times before.

Is this your way of telling us that you're not going to post in future?

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Your earlier posts appeared to be very happy that Westminster was allocating the levelling up funds in the way they were. So presumably you're happy that the King's didn't get any.

No, I am happy for the ones that did and sad for the ones that didn't. Why would anyone be happy, I don't get it?

[James310]

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Is this your way of telling us that you're not going to post in future?

Only if you do the same?

[grunt]

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Only if you do the same?

Really? If I stop posting you will too? (Wonder if I can get sponsorship for this ...)

[James310]

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Really? If I stop posting you will too? (Wonder if I can get sponsorship for this ...)

You can do as you wish, it's a shame you don't like opposite views though, don't you think it's enough of an echo chamber already?

[Hibrandenburg]

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Do you even get a vote in Scotland?

I do now. Even without one I still would have partied.

[Berwickhibby]

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I do now. Even without one I still would have partied.

Ahh Ex Pats could not vote at the last referendum…this could be a game changer if they get to vote if there is another

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Ahh Ex Pats could not vote at the last referendum…this could be a game changer if they get to vote if there is another

It's complicated.

[Berwickhibby]

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It's complicated.

Not really either you’re a Scottish resident and you can or you are a German resident and you cannot. Anything else is electoral fraud. I was in Malta during the last referendum and was unable to vote.

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Only if you do the same?

This post says that you will stop posting if I do. Will you commit to that?

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Not really either you’re a Scottish resident and you can or you are a German resident and you cannot. Anything else is electoral fraud. I was in Malta during the last referendum and was unable to vote.

It's complicated.

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This post says that you will stop posting if I do. Will you commit to that?

I’m picturing you both heading off to the hibs.net afterlife together. And spending all eternity arguing.

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This post says that you will stop posting if I do. Will you commit to that?

You do what you want, it was a bit tounge in cheek. We are grown ups aren't we?

But if it keeps you really happy if you don't post on the Tory thread I won't post on this thread. I think you would be more lost than me though. Or we can be grown up and keep posting what we want?

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I’m picturing you both heading off to the hibs.net afterlife together. And spending all eternity arguing.

Whilst I would never want to see either poster from both sides of the debate leave and diminish the range of opinion and the place turn into an echo chamber, your lighthearted comment means I just can't get the Yellowbrick Road out my head now.

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I’m picturing you both heading off to the hibs.net afterlife together. And spending all eternity arguing.

It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to than I have ever known.

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You do what you want, it was a bit tounge in cheek. We are grown ups aren't we?

But if it keeps you really happy if you don't post on the Tory thread I won't post on this thread. I think you would be more lost than me though. Or we can be grown up and keep posting what we want?

I just wanted to be clear that you're going back on your commitment. Thought you would.

[James310]

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I just wanted to be clear that you're going back on your commitment. Thought you would.

Chill out a bit, we are both adults and can surely post what we want within the site guidelines? You keep saying you have me on ignore but if you keep replying to me it would be rude to ignore you. Just don't reply, or put me on ignore.

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(Wonder if I can get sponsorship for this ...)

Want my ticket for Sunday? 😁

(For anyone that doesn’t know and therefore won’t get the reference, we’re Hibernian FC fans on here)

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Not really either you’re a Scottish resident and you can or you are a German resident and you cannot. Anything else is electoral fraud. I was in Malta during the last referendum and was unable to vote.

Given your track record of the law as it applies in Scotland I'd suggest you're on shakey ground.

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Want my ticket for Sunday? 😁

(For anyone that doesn’t know and therefore won’t get the reference, we’re Hibernian FC fans on here)

I would sell you mine and you can have a wee gossip with Grunt? 😂