SNP are lying b******s as well !

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Is he running the best health service in the UK or not?


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How low have you set the bar?

[Stairway 2 7]

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How low have you set the bar?

It's the only bar ever set. But least its better than the worst government in decades that is in Westminster.

It works take no blame ever and supported by a cult. 12 years in power many areas devolved, 2000 a head more than England to spend, but as long as its better than England

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It's the only bar ever set. But least its better than the worst government in decades that is in Westminster.

It works take no blame ever and supported by a cult. 12 years in power many areas devolved, 2000 a head more than England to spend, but as long as its better than England

It’s not a cult, it’s about picking the best option open to us. Tories run England poorly, Labour run Wales even worse.
That’s the three options put to Scots. Which should we pick? And no matter what you pick, they must work within the framework set by the largest party in England.
You suggest support for the SNP is a cult while suggesting voting for one of the others who perform worse?


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"The Royal College of Emergency Medicine said the massive rise (in deaths) is down to a record number of patients being forced to wait over eight hours for care."

"Overall excess deaths in Scotland have spiralled since the height of the Covid pandemic, with over 100 people more than normal dying each week, eight per cent above the five-year average."

Let's just ignore the facts and likes of the BMA and the Royal College of Emergency Medicine etc.

Why is it described as a rant when if someone was having a go at the UK Government who have made a similar mess it would never be described as a rant.

So as per the BMA its not actually all about A&E waiting times.


Glad we all now agree, and also agree that the NHS is in desperate need of more support

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It’s not a cult, it’s about picking the best option open to us. Tories run England poorly, Labour run Wales even worse.
That’s the three options put to Scots. Which should we pick? And no matter what you pick, they must work within the framework set by the largest party in England.
You suggest support for the SNP is a cult while suggesting voting for one of the others who perform worse?


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Its a cult because people support it like a football team, back them when they are wrong or are useless. I've never treated a political party like that, they should all be criticised. I vote snp to try and get independence, but they are often useless.

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It's the only bar ever set. But least its better than the worst government in decades that is in Westminster.

It works take no blame ever and supported by a cult. 12 years in power many areas devolved, 2000 a head more than England to spend, but as long as its better than England

No one ever says this.... "it's OK because its better than England "?


It's better than down south on some metrics, worse in others.

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No one ever says this.... "it's OK because its better than England "?


It's better than down south on some metrics, worse in others.

They do to subjects all the time. We have shocking excess deaths in Scotland right now, worse than most of western Europe. The reply will be, well its better than England

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Its a cult because people support it like a football team, back them when they are wrong or are useless. I've never treated a political party like that, they should all be criticised. I vote snp to try and get independence, but they are often useless.

I can accept the NHS needs massive reform. In fact I’m sure of it. What I’m also certain of is that reform costs money. Lots of it. Now the budget we have in Scotland is based on the budget in England. We can’t change that. It’s not in our power. If we want reform, we have to do it without spending any more money. I don’t think that’s possible. So we have to make do best we can.


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I can accept the NHS needs massive reform. In fact I’m sure of it. What I’m also certain of is that reform costs money. Lots of it. Now the budget we have in Scotland is based on the budget in England. We can’t change that. It’s not in our power. If we want reform, we have to do it without spending any more money. I don’t think that’s possible. So we have to make do best we can.


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I think you said that last time and someone pointed out lots of examples of reforms that didn't need anything from anyone else, it's very convenient to always have someone or something to blame all the time.

The SNP have announced a the formation of A National Care Service for Scotland costing north of a billion pounds. Your favourite Minister Mr Yousaf described the move as "the most significant since the creation of the NHS". How can they do something as significant as the creation of the NHS when you say they are limited in what they can do?

Seems the SNP can do lots with the funds and the devolved powers they currently have. Can't keep blaming someone else forever.

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They do to subjects all the time. We have shocking excess deaths in Scotland right now, worse than most of western Europe. The reply will be, well its better than England

And also, that despite that it's not good enough

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I can accept the NHS needs massive reform. In fact I’m sure of it. What I’m also certain of is that reform costs money. Lots of it. Now the budget we have in Scotland is based on the budget in England. We can’t change that. It’s not in our power. If we want reform, we have to do it without spending any more money. I don’t think that’s possible. So we have to make do best we can.


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Nhs budget has exploded, its not lack of money. £200 billion last year. Was steady at about £140 billion 5 years ago. The side of the brexit bus was wrong as were spending about £1 billion a week more on the NHS. Covid is the obvious answer but the spending was spiraling previous to it and the budget is for 180 billion for the next 3 years.

Snp have been in power throughout that. They can spend it how they wish, plus 2000 per head a year on top. We can’t blame down south for our nhs

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And also, that despite that it's not good enough

I wish that was the case, but your more critical than most

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I wish that was the case, but your more critical than most

Maybe, I genuinely don't think I'm the only one though, often I think there's a wee bit of a defence mechanism appearing as a result of some posters being "negative" on SNP performance seem oblivious to similar poor performance from other governments..

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Maybe, I genuinely don't think I'm the only one though, often I think there's a wee bit of a defence mechanism appearing as a result of some posters being "negative" on SNP performance seem oblivious to similar poor performance from other governments..

Not sure that's the case, who is defending the Tories bad management of the NHS. I asked the other day why can't we agree they are all as bad as each other, but the general response back is well Humza is doing a great job and he gets clapping emojis and plaudits for running the best health service in the UK despite little evidence to prove that's the case.

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Its a cult because people support it like a football team, back them when they are wrong or are useless.

You clearly don't spend much time on the hibs related sections of hibs.net

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You clearly don't spend much time on the hibs related sections of hibs.net

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Can't keep blaming someone else forever.

The Scots can and they will. The only way out of the conundrum is independence.

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You clearly don't spend much time on the hibs related sections of hibs.net

True football team is a bad apology as some live to hate hibs. Although there's more jambos than sit in the wheatfield on the main board, weird people

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64270691

22 further days of strike action announced by Scottish teaching unions - in addition to the forthcoming 16-day set of strikes.

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Any links to where the Scottish government has successfully negotiated with unions to avert strike action?

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https://thinkscotland.org/2023/01/th...cola-sturgeon/

New book out.

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https://thinkscotland.org/2023/01/th...cola-sturgeon/

New book out.

Looks riveting but think I’ll save my money.


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Looks riveting but think I’ll save my money.


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Looks dreadful.

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Looks dreadful.

Think he’s one of those guys who go on about North British and the like. Each to their own I guess.


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Think he’s one of those guys who go on about North British and the like. Each to their own I guess.


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The only North British is a hotel. 😉

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The only North British is a hotel. 😉

Been called the Balmoral for years.

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Been called the Balmoral for years.

For some, maybe, but it's the North British Hotel and its clock is permanently fast.

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SNP plan to ban alcohol logos on pint glasses as they step up war on booze.

https://twitter.com/ewmc1969/status/...Ho0C6Gy6s9snow

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SNP plan to ban alcohol logos on pint glasses as they step up war on booze.

https://twitter.com/ewmc1969/status/...Ho0C6Gy6s9snow

I gave up after "Barmy SNP bigwigs".

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SNP plan to ban alcohol logos on pint glasses as they step up war on booze.

https://twitter.com/ewmc1969/status/...Ho0C6Gy6s9snow

From a Scottish Sun article that doesn't contain a single quote from an SNP spokesperson to suggest anything that matches the article's claim. Not to mention that the article starts with "The nats....".

I swear, the media on this island. I notice the BBC are making absolutely no mention of Nadhim Zahawi's tax fraud, despite clearly being in the public interest. I'm sure Richard Sharp has absolutely nothing to do with that decision, no siree.