I'm not sure who this 'they' is? I watched PMQs today and the Speaker invited a gaunt, emaciated man with no hair to ask two questions. It turns out his name is Stephen Flynn and he is in charge of fifty-odd other MPs who call themselves the SNP.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
So, by your logic that lot are 'they'? I think someone should tell 'them'![]()
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08-12-2022 12:34 AM #10261
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08-12-2022 03:28 AM #10262This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteEvery gimmick hungry yob,
Digging gold from rock and roll
Grabs the mic to tell us,
He'll die before he's sold.
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08-12-2022 06:22 AM #10263
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It's actually scary how bad things are. BBC (even them) have their main article focusing on shocking situations in hospitals:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-63890726
The cause of course isn't named (its the BBC after all) but the graph showing waiting times rising exponentially since 2010, and not just since covid.
What big political change could happened in 2010 I wonder? BBC gives no hint so I guess we'll never know.
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08-12-2022 07:17 AM #10264
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08-12-2022 07:40 AM #10265This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I’m sure SNP supporters can also give as good as they get at times but it’s all a bit disappointing and puerile.
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08-12-2022 07:58 AM #10266This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteThere is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.
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08-12-2022 08:46 AM #10267
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08-12-2022 10:42 AM #10268This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I made around half a dozen posts since yestersay evening, initially refuting a post that any objective person would have dismissed as errant nonsense.
Those posts were a mixture of the rational and factual, two of them quite detailed, and a couple that questioned the post I was replying to.
All in all I must thave asked ten or so questions, pretty much all serious, apart from a few light-hearted ones in one post replying to Ozyhibby. But I wasn't overwhelmed with serious answers to serious questions, which is a bit dispiriting given this place is meant to be about genuine discussion and debate. Maybe you would care to comment on those?There's only one thing better than a Hibs calendar and that's two Hibs calendars
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08-12-2022 10:48 AM #10269
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08-12-2022 10:57 AM #10271
https://www.instituteforgovernment.o...wel-convention
How does the Sewel convention work in practice?
When the UK government plans to introduce a bill with provisions that fall within the scope of the Sewel convention, it is expected to consult with the devolved administrations early in the process, to ensure that devolved views are taken into account.
After a bill of this type is introduced in parliament, the devolved administrations publish a legislative consent memorandum, as required by the standing orders of the devolved legislatures in Cardiff, Edinburgh and Belfast.
The legislative consent memorandum sets out the bill’s objectives, the reasons why consent is required, and usually indicates whether and why the devolved government believes consent should be given.
Before a bill reaches its final amending stage in the UK parliament, the devolved legislatures then vote on a legislative consent motion to either grant or withhold consent for the bill, in part or in full. If consent is not granted, the UK parliament can decide whether to amend the bill to meet the devolved concerns, or to pass the legislation as it stands.
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08-12-2022 11:00 AM #10272This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
"Damn those colonialists with their funding to reduce accident blackspots, damn them I say!"Last edited by Mibbes Aye; 08-12-2022 at 11:19 AM.
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08-12-2022 11:04 AM #10273This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
How about the behaviour of people calling Westminster 'them', when it has fifty-odd SNP MPs attending and participating. Are Mr Flynn and his colleagues 'them' then?There's only one thing better than a Hibs calendar and that's two Hibs calendars
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08-12-2022 11:19 AM #10274This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It's not as if some Spanish bloke came along and said '"I want to build this thing that looks like overturned boats" and then another bunch of folk came along and said "We are going to call this a parliament and make some rules, but not all the rules, for everyone north of Carter Bar"
It's not a political issue, it's a process one. We don't exist in a vacuum.Last edited by Mibbes Aye; 08-12-2022 at 11:22 AM.
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08-12-2022 11:31 AM #10275
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08-12-2022 11:52 AM #10278
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08-12-2022 11:54 AM #10279
I see Keir Starmer using ‘them, they’ all the time? Is it ok for him to do it?
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08-12-2022 12:45 PM #10280This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I didn't say anything about any comments you or anyone else made re Gotdon Brown. As far as Flynn goes, yesterday was genuinely the first time I had seen him and let's face it, if John Swinney was compelled to take a paternity test then I'm sure we would be having a different discussion
But yes, calling people 'old goats' and the like probably isn't the standard we should aspire to. I've called out some of the really crass language that I've seen on here directed by what are mostly middle-aged men (and that is true) at women politicians like Jo Swinson. That's why I don't resort to the Wee Nicky Krankie stuff, or suggesting that she goes to Legoland to get her hair done, stuff like that, which I know some folk disappointingly do.Last edited by Mibbes Aye; 08-12-2022 at 12:55 PM.
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08-12-2022 12:48 PM #10281This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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08-12-2022 12:53 PM #10282This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It's a fair and serious point I'm making, I believe trying to deflect it merely reinforces the lack of a credible counter to it.
I have read 'Westminster' being referred to as 'them', and usually in a negative way, by people who want independence/support the SNP/all of the above countless times on here. Countless in individual posts almost!
But Westminster is Stephen Flynn and Mhairi Black and four dozen of their colleagues, and rather prominently at times. So, are they 'them' or 'us'? And before you even offer up an answer, what gives you or anyone else the right to state as objectove fact who we should consider as 'them' or 'us'?There's only one thing better than a Hibs calendar and that's two Hibs calendars
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08-12-2022 12:57 PM #10283This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I’ve desisted from certain terms for ‘No’ voters but I never thought of any of them as derogatory anyway. We’ll see how long that ceasefire lasts but it won’t be me that breaks it.
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08-12-2022 01:03 PM #10284This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Last I looked, the SNP were not part of the UK govt.
You can consider who you like as them or they, knock yourself out. I’m not trying to influence you either way.
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08-12-2022 01:13 PM #10285
Anyway, trying to get back onto the subject of the Tories (and bashing them seems to be fair enough and I'm not complaining
), I've seen a lot of comment on the various individual and concerted things they have done to generally make our existence as bleak and desolate as possible, but within all that there is some real fascinating tectonic stuff going on for them.
They have allways been riven by Europe, needless to say, but there are so many other fault lines coming to the surface it's almost impossible to keep track. These have been evident in the never-ending stream of policy u-turns, paying and playing off one faction against another. The homebuilding targets fiasco is the latest great example. For many Tories strengthening access to home ownership is a cornerstone of the Thatcherite, self-improvement philosophical agenda. For others, especially in the leafy shires, the targets are deeply un-conservative (deliberate small 'c'). And there will be an uber neo-liberal element who see any government targets as unnecessary meddling by an already-bloated state!
The Tories like the image of always reinventing themselves to secure electoral success but the sheer scale of cognitive dissonance going on within their party and government is surely unsustainable? Although I worry that maybe people have said this throughout their history.......There's only one thing better than a Hibs calendar and that's two Hibs calendars
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08-12-2022 01:17 PM #10286This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
But that wasn't the question was it?There's only one thing better than a Hibs calendar and that's two Hibs calendars
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08-12-2022 01:42 PM #10287This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
so be a big adult and finally put me on ignore, i ignore you for many reasons even though you constantly try to get a reaction, plenty on here are intelligent enough and chose to ignore posters they have no desire to converse with, i have absolutely no desire whatsoever to converse with you, none whatsoever, anyone with half a brain would realise that but not you, that's perfectly obvious, so instead of trying to get a bite try using the ignore functionpathetic? right back at ya
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08-12-2022 01:52 PM #10288
How is the OP above managing to read and respond to all posters they state they ignore?
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08-12-2022 01:59 PM #10289This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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08-12-2022 02:06 PM #10290This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
and apologies to the OP who I didn't reply to directly as I wrongly assumed I was on ignore.
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