Tories are still lying *******s

[Jack]

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He's not a Tory.

He might not be what you see as an ideal Labour leader, but he's not a Tory.

He'll also win Labour the next election and it was always going to be the case they needed a centrist leader to achieve that. Once in power, they have the choice to enact left of center policies if they wish, which I wouldn't be surprised to see (atleast to a certain degree).

To be fair that's more or less what he did to win the Labour leadership was it not? Said one thing and once in the job abandoned what he'd 'promised'.

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They need us more than we need them (part 198) ...

[Ozyhibby]

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They need us more than we need them (part 198) ...

Careful, that’s getting close to Indy talk. You’ll get this thread closed as well.


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Careful, that’s getting close to Indy talk. You’ll get this thread closed as well.

I hope not, that is not my intention. But are you saying that as well as not being allowed a referendum by the Tories, we're also not even allowed to talk about it?

[Ozyhibby]

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I hope not, that is not my intention. But are you saying that as well as not being allowed a referendum by the Tories, we're also not even allowed to talk about it?

I’m not even sure we are allowed to talk about not being allowed to talk about it. Best play it safe.


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[archie]

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They need us more than we need them (part 198) ...

Could you share the source for this please?

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Could you share the source for this please?

https://www.nationalgrideso.com/docu...64441/download

[archie]

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They need us more than we need them (part 198) ...

Thanks for sending the link. What do you think this shows?

[JimBHibees]

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They need us more than we need them (part 198) ...

What is the rational for the increase between the dates?

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Grunt will come in I'm sure, but it looks to me to be a paper on the need to strengthen the GB network to deal with projected growth in renewables capacity and projected demand. It's part of a set of slides on a whole system approach to the distribution network as part of strategies to get to net zero. My assumption is that the growth in demand is driven by the move to air source and ground source heat pumps rather than gas boilers. But I have only skimmed it.

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Thanks for sending the link. What do you think this shows?

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What is the rational for the increase between the dates?

The paper is prepared by the National Grid ESO (Electricity System Operator) whose role is

Our control room moves electricity around the country second by second to ensure that the right amount of electricity is where it’s needed, when it’s needed – always keeping supply and demand in perfect balance.

We also have to plan for the future.We must think about things like where our energy will come from and how we will operate a greener and cleaner system in the future.
We want to be able to run a zero carbon electricity system by 2025, which will be crucial in helping the UK meet its wider zero carbon target.

The graphic is from their Future Energy Scenarios 2022 report where they consider

Future Energy Scenarios (FES) represent a range of different, credible ways to decarbonise our energy system as we strive towards the 2050 target.

Website here: https://www.nationalgrideso.com/elec...-transmission/

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I thought Michelle Mone said that Medpro was nothing to do with her?

[McSwanky]

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I thought Michelle Mone said that Medpro was nothing to do with her?

identifingy

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Gordon Brown tells Andrew Marr the Conservative government since 2019 has been the most corrupt for "at least a century."

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[Kato]

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That is the current Tory Party logic. Nurses should take a hit because Putin (their ally for years) is waging war.

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That is the current Tory Party logic. Nurses should take a hit because Putin (their ally for years) is waging war.

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Exactly.

[Jack]

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Have the torys ever mentioned they're returning the £4m or so they received from the Russians?

[Kato]

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Have the torys ever mentioned they're returning the £4m or so they received from the Russians?

£1.9m since Boris became leader, probably £8m since 2008.

I will never understand how this has been normalised.

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Mone to take ‘leave of absence ‘ from HoL to ,clear her name’ according to ‘her spokesman’

She’s only actually attended sessions 5 times in seven years so not really as newsworthy as it sounds…

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Mone to take ‘leave of absence ‘ from HoL to ,clear her name’ according to ‘her spokesman’

She’s only actually attended sessions 5 times in seven years so not really as newsworthy as it sounds…

She sounds bat**** crazy, and a thief.

I really hope she does some jail time.

Have a read of this times article on Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingd...e_makes_every/

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She sounds bat**** crazy, and a thief.

I really hope she does some jail time.

Have a read of this times article on Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingd...e_makes_every/

Zero chance that she goes to jail. She’s well protected.


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Zero chance that she goes to jail. She’s well protected.


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Jeffrey Archer went to jail, so if she's guilty, there's hope!

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she doesn't have to declare her financial interests now


£29m for her
£36m for him

£200m+ for Medpro for useless ppe


one of the biggest robberies

from 2015 i think





try stay classy Baroness Fraud

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she doesn't have to declare her financial interests now


£29m for her
£36m for him

£200m+ for Medpro for useless ppe


one of the biggest robberies

from 2015 i think





try stay classy Baroness Fraud

That surely isn't real?

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Zero chance that she goes to jail. She’s well protected.


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Rioters do time for steeling a bottle of water, protesters for sitting in the roads but I agree no chance she does time for stealing at least £29 Million at a time of National Crisis and what could have caused death to health workers. She is exactly the type of person the jails should be stuffed full off along with many that served in this and the last couple of governments. We are essentially being ran by the Eton Mafia and they control teh cops and courts

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Zero chance that she goes to jail. She’s well protected.


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The ludicrous thing is, you are probably right, even at this level of thievery she is miles off being the worst in a den of thieves facilitated by lord Deighton's fast track.

She might actually have been so pissed off because she wasn't quick enough getting there?

Interesting to see Hancock putting the boot in. I am really looking forward to reading his diary entries relating to his pub landlords successful PPE bid.

Prosecutions? Not a hope in hell, even by an incoming labour government.

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[Mr Grieves]

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That surely isn't real?

It's real

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politi...ron-mp-1432783

[degenerated]

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That surely isn't real?

She's a complete fruit loop with a history of bizarre and horrible behaviour. She vandalised her ex husband's motor, was outed for promoting fake diet pills, got caught bugging an employees office with listening device and not so long ago she was in the papers again for telling an Indian guy he was "a waste of a white man's skin"

She did once say that people who steal don't deserve human rights, so she has that going for her I guess