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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    Some incredible comments from Eustice
    **** me. That’s absolutely terrifying. So this was their flagship, “we told you it would be good” trade deal. And it’s been eviscerated in parliament by a former minister. And it was signed off by our former prime minister.

    Is anyone still even admitting they voted for Brexit?


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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    Former Environment Sec George Eustice has spoken about the post-Brexit UK/Australia trade deal in the Commons. He says now no longer a minister: "I no longer have to put such a positive gloss on what was agreed...the Australia deal is not actually a very good trade deal for the UK."

    https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status...TeaVWgnWyiIJ4w
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    https://news.stv.tv/politics/uk-econ...says-economist


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    In hindsight, do you think Britain was right or wrong to vote to leave the European Union?

    Right to Leave: 32% (-3)
    Wrong to Leave: 56% (+4)

    Via @YouGov, 9-10 Nov.
    Changes w/ 1-2 Nov.

    Largest EVER lead for 'Wrong to Leave' (polled since Aug 2016)

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    That discussion we were having about voter ID, and how it's not designed to suppress the votes of the younger generation ...


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    From OBR report:

    "Our trade forecast reflects our assumption that Brexit will result in the UK’s trade intensity being 15% lower in the long run than if the UK had remained in the EU. The latest evidence suggests that Brexit has had a significant adverse impact on UK trade."

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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    From OBR report:

    "Our trade forecast reflects our assumption that Brexit will result in the UK’s trade intensity being 15% lower in the long run than if the UK had remained in the EU. The latest evidence suggests that Brexit has had a significant adverse impact on UK trade."
    Given the OBR nearly always forecast more positively than the reality turns out to be I would guess it will be nearer 18-20%

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    Have you ever heard a more pathetic response than this from Victoria Atkins?

    https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status...fNhFKXLCF0l8Ng

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    Have you ever heard a more pathetic response than this from Victoria Atkins?

    https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status...fNhFKXLCF0l8Ng
    As pathetic as that is, it just fits into the "routinely pathetic" category these days.

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    Sadiq Khan puts his head above the parapet:

    https://twitter.com/SadiqKhan/status...1XmNWlsnTWxHrQ

    Let’s be honest: Brexit isn’t working.British exporters are struggling, our living standards are falling and the UK is now the only G7 country with a smaller economy than before the pandemic.Unless we face up to the harm Brexit is causing we can't start to address it.


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    Is that good? Does it include FOM?

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    Is that good? Does it include FOM?
    I don't think so (at this stage). Suspect it is flying a kite to see how it lands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie View Post
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    I don't think so (at this stage). Suspect it is flying a kite to see how it lands.
    It doesn't include FOM but I think it's the start of the softening up process.
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    We're going home, we're going home, we're going, UK's going home

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    Don't worry everyone, Rishi believes in Brexit:

    https://news.sky.com/story/amp/rishi...rexit-12752298

    And as we all know, we just have to close our eyes and wish hard enough and all our problems will be solved.

    And I thought this guy was supposed to be the serious Tory after all the banter under Truss in trashing the economy and costing us 10s of billions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie View Post
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    Had to laugh when a certain Jacob Rees Moggie said such a thing would negate all the trade agreements that had already been agreed.
    Space to let


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    Brexit - analysis of post Brexit trade deals impact on GDP compared with Brexit impact itself:

    https://twitter.com/edwinhayward/sta...TEkQU5oSQ5CEOg

    This is a crime against the citizens of the UK, and those responsible should be in prison.

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    Here's the German ambassador to the UK, concerned about declining levels of trade between Germany and the UK:

    UK is Germany’s third export market, but we are concerned that trade between the UK and Germany has continuously declined since the Brexit referendum. Britain has traditionally been Germany’s fifth largest trading partner. In 2022 UK will drop out of the list of the TOP 10 (blue line below).

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    https://t.co/rrqGtyKV4B

    Brexit and the economy: the hit has been ‘substantially negative’ via @FT

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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    David Frost (not that one) claiming that trade is not GDP and that trade isn't linked to productivity.

    https://twitter.com/peterwalker99/st...ZcrKEKqKQ&s=19

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    David Frost (not that one) claiming that trade is not GDP and that trade isn't linked to productivity.

    https://twitter.com/peterwalker99/st...ZcrKEKqKQ&s=19

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    Couldn't we just cancel all recognised methods of benchmarking GDP globally and start using the sunlituplandsometer?

    Even if the inventor of said uplands has lost the latest in a long line of jobs and moved on to earning £250k upwards for speeches to anyone who will listen whilst those he has left behind in the er......well......uplands....struggle a bit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostonhibby View Post
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    Couldn't we just cancel all recognised methods of benchmarking GDP globally and start using the sunlituplandsometer?

    Even if the inventor of said uplands has lost the latest in a long line of jobs and moved on to earning £250k upwards for speeches to anyone who will listen whilst those he has left behind in the er......well......uplands....struggle a bit

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    When I was a kid the economy was measured at the end of the news by showing the "balance of payments", then showing the footsy thingmwy which meant nowt to most was normalised. Then they started showing how well the country was doing by measuring "sales on the High Street", which was mental as a lot of that was tick.

    Those things were shown on telly, sometimes every night.

    What do they show at the end of the news now as the economic thermometer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    When I was a kid the economy was measured at the end of the news by showing the "balance of payments", then showing the footsy thingmwy which meant nowt to most was normalised. Then they started showing how well the country was doing by measuring "sales on the High Street", which was mental as a lot of that was tick.

    Those things were shown on telly, sometimes every night.

    What do they show at the end of the news now as the economic thermometer?

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    The weather?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1875godsgift View Post
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    The weather?
    Yeah. Heat banks. And food banks. The measure of how the country is faring.

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    poor guy Wishaw business forced to stop all trade with EU due to Brexit | The National


    A SCOTTISH firm has revealed how it was forced to abandon all trade with Europe after Brexit hammered the “nail into the coffin” of its export business.
    Andrew Duff, who runs butchers MacDuff 1890, said it’s now easier to export to Hong Kong than it is to Europe

    He said: “Brexit has, and will continue to be, an unmitigated disaster for households and businesses across these islands – reducing Scottish exports by a staggering £2.2 billion in the last year alone.



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    Quote Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875 View Post
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    poor guy Wishaw business forced to stop all trade with EU due to Brexit | The National


    A SCOTTISH firm has revealed how it was forced to abandon all trade with Europe after Brexit hammered the “nail into the coffin” of its export business.
    Andrew Duff, who runs butchers MacDuff 1890, said it’s now easier to export to Hong Kong than it is to Europe

    He said: “Brexit has, and will continue to be, an unmitigated disaster for households and businesses across these islands – reducing Scottish exports by a staggering £2.2 billion in the last year alone.


    Disaster? That can't be right? Didn't Dim Lizzy do something with cheese and Bozo waved a kipper about on a stage somewhere.

    Surely these more than offset actual trade losses otherwise where's the benefit?

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    poor guy Wishaw business forced to stop all trade with EU due to Brexit | The National


    A SCOTTISH firm has revealed how it was forced to abandon all trade with Europe after Brexit hammered the “nail into the coffin” of its export business.
    Andrew Duff, who runs butchers MacDuff 1890, said it’s now easier to export to Hong Kong than it is to Europe

    He said: “Brexit has, and will continue to be, an unmitigated disaster for households and businesses across these islands – reducing Scottish exports by a staggering £2.2 billion in the last year alone.


    It's reasonable to ask why are exports easier to Hong Kong than Europe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie View Post
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    It's reasonable to ask why are exports easier to Hong Kong than Europe?
    Hong Kong is a less regulated market?


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