SNP are lying b******s as well !

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Sturgeon rules out NHS privatisation (while, as ever, claiming to know nothing about the discussions):

Sturgeon dismisses 'two tier' NHS Scotland making wealthy pay for care (msn.com)

I don't get it. A private NHS Managers' meeting, where they were 'workshopping' ideas (you know, no wrong answers and all that) has been leaked to the BBC, and it's somehow Nicola Sturgeon's fault that the idea was brought up at all? Have I got this right?

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I don't get it. A private NHS Managers' meeting, where they were 'workshopping' ideas (you know, no wrong answers and all that) has been leaked to the BBC, and it's somehow Nicola Sturgeon's fault that the idea was brought up at all? Have I got this right?

The press story has made it clear that it was an NHS managers meeting.
Has anybody here blamed Sturgeon?

[McSwanky]

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The press story has made it clear that it was an NHS managers meeting.
Has anybody here blamed Sturgeon?

Maybe I've misunderstood the remark a couple of posts above:

Sturgeon rules out NHS privatisation (while, as ever, claiming to know nothing about the discussions)

Also...

https://twitter.com/AndrewBowie_MP/s...16674921086981

Also...

https://twitter.com/Jackson_Carlaw/s...96252766900225

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Maybe I've misunderstood the remark a couple of posts above:



Also...

https://twitter.com/AndrewBowie_MP/s...16674921086981

Also...

https://twitter.com/Jackson_Carlaw/s...96252766900225

It's like they've done it before. Oh wait.

https://twitter.com/msm_monitor/stat...27568925347843

Just to add to the Tories tweets. Labour are in on the act too.

https://twitter.com/AnasSarwar/statu...59242862346240

The story was debunked prior to a phone in by Kaye Adams, but they ran it for an hour this morning anyway.

I wonder if we'll get the full hand with reporting shortbread this evening.

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Maybe I've misunderstood the remark a couple of posts above:



Also...

https://twitter.com/AndrewBowie_MP/s...16674921086981

Also...

https://twitter.com/Jackson_Carlaw/s...96252766900225

The post from here doesn’t actually blame Sturgeon. Though He’s Here clearly isn’t a fan.

I don’t do Twitter for politics, I really wish politicians didn’t either.

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The post from here doesn’t actually blame Sturgeon. Though He’s Here clearly isn’t a fan.

He's implying she's lying about knowing about the story.

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https://youtu.be/owI7DOeO_yg


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It reminds me of when I was a 'leader' in one of those type discussions. Unlike some blabber mouth I'll not go into the detail (it would obviously be too scary for some 🤣 ) but the theoretical project was to be called Health Is Better'n Scotland or HIBS for short! I doubt Nicola Sturgeon, Cabinet Secretary for health and other stuff at the time, knew anything about it 🤔

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He's implying she's lying about knowing about the story.

He’sHere can answer for himself Im sure but he’s not actually saying Sturgeon plans to privatise the NHS. I’ll leave him to clarify that further though, I wish I hadn’t got involved.

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The post from here doesn’t actually blame Sturgeon. Though He’s Here clearly isn’t a fan.

I don’t do Twitter for politics, I really wish politicians didn’t either.

You're right of course, it doesn't blame Sturgeon.

I shall say no more on the matter.

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He’sHere can answer for himself Im sure but he’s not actually saying Sturgeon plans to privatise the NHS. I’ll leave him to clarify that further though, I wish I hadn’t got involved.

I blame you.

[ronaldo7]

It's made it to London. Job done.

https://twitter.com/wesstreeting/sta...59313938743298

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I blame you.

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Graham Campbell thrown out a meeting with drug campaigners favor. Not sure if what Anne Marie ward says is correct about him wanting a photo opportunity

https://mobile.twitter.com/RadioClyd...83721302822912

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He’sHere can answer for himself Im sure but he’s not actually saying Sturgeon plans to privatise the NHS. I’ll leave him to clarify that further though, I wish I hadn’t got involved.

Indeed, that's not what I'm saying. I just find it unlikely that when she has confirmed that NHS 'reform is under way' that the FM would not be remotely aware such suggestions had been made. Privatisation (of sorts) would be a huge deal.

She has form for 'forgetting' (the meeting in which she was told of the Salmond scandal) or being 'unaware' (of any impropriety around the ferries fiasco).

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It's made it to London. Job done.

https://twitter.com/wesstreeting/sta...59313938743298

Indeed IMG20221122073841.jpg

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The post from here doesn’t actually blame Sturgeon. Though He’s Here clearly isn’t a fan.

I don’t do Twitter for politics, I really wish politicians didn’t either.

I'd prefer if Andrew Bowie didn't do politics, not so fussed about him being on twitter though

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It's like they've done it before. Oh wait.

https://twitter.com/msm_monitor/stat...27568925347843

Just to add to the Tories tweets. Labour are in on the act too.

https://twitter.com/AnasSarwar/statu...59242862346240

The story was debunked prior to a phone in by Kaye Adams, but they ran it for an hour this morning anyway.

I wonder if we'll get the full hand with reporting shortbread this evening.

BBC EXCLUSIVE - STURGEON HOLDS PRIVATISATION MEETING ON BROKEN DOWN FERRY - more at 6.30 ...

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BBC EXCLUSIVE - STURGEON HOLDS PRIVATISATION MEETING ON BROKEN DOWN FERRY - more at 6.30 ...

It’s funny how they think that a govt that has so far nationalised a shipyard, as steel fabricators, an airport and Scotrail is now about to privatise the NHS.


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BBC EXCLUSIVE - STURGEON HOLDS PRIVATISATION MEETING ON BROKEN DOWN FERRY - more at 6.30 ...

Was she stranded in mid channel?

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Indeed, that's not what I'm saying. I just find it unlikely that when she has confirmed that NHS 'reform is under way' that the FM would not be remotely aware such suggestions had been made. Privatisation (of sorts) would be a huge deal.

She has form for 'forgetting' (the meeting in which she was told of the Salmond scandal) or being 'unaware' (of any impropriety around the ferries fiasco).

Nudge nudge, wink wink.

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It’s funny how they think that a govt that has so far nationalised a shipyard, as steel fabricators, an airport and Scotrail is now about to privatise the NHS.


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They don't think that though. They want the electorate to think that and it's working, I've heard a few people talking about sturgeon privatising healthcare today.

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Nationwide teachers' strike to go ahead as Scottish government's pay offer dismissed as 'insulting':

Teachers' strike in Scotland to go ahead as new pay offer rejected - BBC News

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Nationwide teachers' strike to go ahead as Scottish government's pay offer dismissed as 'insulting':

Teachers' strike in Scotland to go ahead as new pay offer rejected - BBC News

Fully back the teachers on this. New offer is an insult aimed at dividing teachers at different levels of the pay scale. The offer is so far below what the teachers want that I can see the strikes going on for months.

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Nationwide teachers' strike to go ahead as Scottish government's pay offer dismissed as 'insulting':

Teachers' strike in Scotland to go ahead as new pay offer rejected - BBC News

No wonder its a piss take. Vast majority get 5 point something rise, months after rejecting 5%.

[Ozyhibby]

SG is going to have to cut some services altogether if they are to solve this. It’s going to be grim. Shame for the kids sitting exams this year.


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SG is going to have to cut some services altogether if they are to solve this. It’s going to be grim. Shame for the kids sitting exams this year.


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How did they afford to pay public sector workers much much better 10 years ago. I can't see what they have prioritised over paying teachers and nurses. Kids had months off in recent years they will be fine and shouldn't be used as a weapon against striking, unless its to get scot gov to pay up

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How did they afford to pay public sector workers much much better 10 years ago. I can't see what they have prioritised over paying teachers and nurses. Kids had months off in recent years they will be fine and shouldn't be used as a weapon against striking, unless its to get scot gov to pay up

Public sector pay has been squeezed since 2010 as a deliberate policy decision of the UK govt. I suspect teachers salaries are inline with teachers south of the border because our spending is tied to what they spend down south.
I agree that the teachers deserve more. I think just about every person in Scotland deserves to have their wages lifted in line with our European neighbours but it will only happen if we vote for change.
An average wage earner in UK is about 20% poorer than the equivalent in France. We shouldn’t accept that.


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Public sector pay has been squeezed since 2010 as a deliberate policy decision of the UK govt. I suspect teachers salaries are inline with teachers south of the border because our spending is tied to what they spend down south.
I agree that the teachers deserve more. I think just about every person in Scotland deserves to have their wages lifted in line with our European neighbours but it will only happen if we vote for change.
An average wage earner in UK is about 20% poorer than the equivalent in France. We shouldn’t accept that.


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That's what snp wants us to believe, blame England as we have no choice. Scotlands block grant even without covid payments has been flat in real terms the last 10 years. Around 50% of our budget is made up of income tax also now.

Our spending isn't tied it's sharply different in many places we have our own budget. We have chosen to follow England with public sector wages the last 10 years. We paid more with the same pot previously

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How did they afford to pay public sector workers much much better 10 years ago. I can't see what they have prioritised over paying teachers and nurses.

Those gender fluidity studies don’t come cheap.

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That's what snp wants us to believe, blame England as we have no choice. Scotlands block grant even without covid payments has been flat in real terms the last 10 years. Around 50% of our budget is made up of income tax also now.

Our spending isn't tied it's sharply different in many places we have our own budget. We have chosen to follow England with public sector wages the last 10 years. We paid more with the same pot previously

Absolutely. The catch-all blame Westminster card doesn't cut it here. Even the SG aren't trying to play that one.