SNP are lying b******s as well !

***grunt*** · 16-11-2022 08:39 AM

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Sturgeon's days are surely numbered now.

The Times. A once renowned newspaper.

***Moulin Yarns*** · 16-11-2022 09:10 AM

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Sturgeon's days are surely numbered now.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/n...cats-l775bx33n

Ps. That's a dog in the photo, not a cat.

Had to look and the Priti Patel doll is pure evil 😈

***Berwickhibby*** · 16-11-2022 09:22 AM

Proceeds of crime hearing against Natalie McGarry to seize money that she stole. Suggests that she owns a property or has funds in an account.

***CropleyWasGod*** · 16-11-2022 09:25 AM

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Proceeds of crime hearing against Natalie McGarry to seize money that she stole. Suggests that she owns a property or has funds in an account.

I saw that.

They are chasing her for £162k, when she "only" stole £25k. Why so much more?

If she managed to make over £135k from a £25k investment, I want her IFA

Edit. The legal costs for the prosecution were over £122k, so that may be the reason. Didn't know that came under the definition of POC. Does that mean that every convicted person can be done for thelr legal costs as well?

***marinello59*** · 16-11-2022 09:42 AM

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I saw that.

They are chasing her for £162k, when she "only" stole £25k. Why so much more?

If she managed to make over £135k from a £25k investment, I want her IFA

Edit. The legal costs for the prosecution were over £122k, so that may be the reason. Didn't know that came under the definition of POC. Does that mean that every convicted person can be done for thelr legal costs as well?

Could it be that she has a property and this initial figure makes no allowance for any mortgage there may be on it? If that makes sense.

**Santa Cruz** · 16-11-2022 09:54 AM

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Could it be that she has a property and this initial figure makes no allowance for any mortgage there may be on it? If that makes sense.

Not sure I do understand? I was thinking the sum they are looking to reclaim maybe was to cover legal costs with the additional costs of the retrial? Whatever, I still don't believe she should have been jailed. Really feel for her daughter in all this.

***CropleyWasGod*** · 16-11-2022 09:58 AM

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Could it be that she has a property and this initial figure makes no allowance for any mortgage there may be on it? If that makes sense.

I wondered that, too.

But.... if they recover £162k from the property sale, who pays off the mortgage? In that scenario, she loses the property and still has the mortgage to pay.

**JeMeSouviens** · 16-11-2022 10:35 AM

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I wondered that, too.

But.... if they recover £162k from the property sale, who pays off the mortgage? In that scenario, she loses the property and still has the mortgage to pay.

According to the Herald the "criminal benefit" amount is £131K.

How is criminal benefit defined?

Criminal benefit is defined as the income and revenue generated and those taxes and fees avoid by the unlawful, criminal activity that the individual or organisation have been found guilty of committing.

Could be she used the money towards a house purchase with her new husband the Tory councillor? And £131K is the equity they've built up in the meantime?

***CropleyWasGod*** · 16-11-2022 10:42 AM

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According to the Herald the "criminal benefit" amount is £131K.

Could be she used the money towards a house purchase with her new husband the Tory councillor? And £131K is the equity they've built up in the meantime?

Possibly.

3 things:-

1. she was broke, and had a lot of debt. I thought that was the main reason for the theft.

2. it would only be her share of the increase.

3. that's some jump in equity. Again, I want her adviser

***grunt*** · 16-11-2022 10:44 AM

Maybe she put the £25k on Hibs to win in 2016?

***CropleyWasGod*** · 16-11-2022 12:24 PM

Turns our that the Crown are going after "unexplained wealth". Sounds like it will be up to her to prove its source.

***marinello59*** · 16-11-2022 12:30 PM

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Turns our that the Crown are going after "unexplained wealth". Sounds like it will be up to her to prove its source.

Ah. That makes sense.

**JeMeSouviens** · 16-11-2022 12:41 PM

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Turns our that the Crown are going after "unexplained wealth". Sounds like it will be up to her to prove its source.

For her sake, I hope she does better than we've managed.

***CropleyWasGod*** · 16-11-2022 12:42 PM

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For her sake, I hope she does better than we've managed.

:)))

***Jack*** · 16-11-2022 02:31 PM

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Turns our that the Crown are going after "unexplained wealth". Sounds like it will be up to her to prove its source.

I'd imagine there will be a more than a few tory wives watching this with interest!

***grunt*** · 16-11-2022 02:49 PM

Oh.

https://archive.ph/hX1Yt

Unions reacted with fury today after the Tories “betrayed” British workers by handing a £1.6billion shipbuilding contract to a Spanish-led bid.

A senior Labour MP accused Defence Secretary Ben Wallace of “stabbing” UK industry “in the back” after he confirmed the deal to build three Fleet Solid Support ships would be given to the Team Resolute consortium, spearheaded by Madrid-based Navantia.

***Jack*** · 16-11-2022 03:29 PM

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Oh.

https://archive.ph/hX1Yt

But are they complex ships? 😉

***Ozyhibby*** · 16-11-2022 03:51 PM

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But are they complex ships?

At £1.6bn they are not rowing boats.

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**archie** · 16-11-2022 04:35 PM

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But are they complex ships? 😉

No - as explained why here: https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/woul...t-left-the-uk/ !

***Jack*** · 16-11-2022 04:42 PM

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No - as explained why here: https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/woul...t-left-the-uk/ !

It seems there's plenty opportunities to build non complex ships then!

**archie** · 16-11-2022 04:45 PM

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It seems there's plenty opportunities to build non complex ships then!

Opportunities to bid for the work anyway.

***grunt*** · 16-11-2022 04:58 PM

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Opportunities to bid for the work anyway.

Bid? Looks like contract awarded...

A senior Labour MP accused Defence Secretary Ben Wallace of “stabbing” UK industry “in the back” after he confirmed the deal to build three Fleet Solid Support ships would be given to the Team Resolute consortium, spearheaded by Madrid-based Navantia.

***Stairway 2 7*** · 16-11-2022 05:36 PM

Surprised no thread. All Edinburgh schools closed on Thursday due to strikes, term time school nurseries too.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...oppage-3921286

**Santa Cruz** · 16-11-2022 06:15 PM

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Surprised no thread. All Edinburgh schools closed on Thursday due to strikes, term time school nurseries too.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...oppage-3921286

Think it's national. Mind reading Glasgow planning 12 days over Nov/Dec. Not just a pay issue for them, something else which for the life of me I now can't remember.

**He's here!** · 17-11-2022 08:04 PM

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Surprised no thread. All Edinburgh schools closed on Thursday due to strikes, term time school nurseries too.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...oppage-3921286

My kids who are still at school are delighted!

Two further strikes announced for next year:

Two more Scottish school strike days announced - BBC News

***SteveHFC*** · 18-11-2022 11:10 AM

See the SNP want to restrict alcohol advertising.

https://consult.gov.scot/alcohol-pol...2Yk98F9FksVA0c

**~~ronaldo7~~** · 18-11-2022 12:05 PM

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See the SNP want to restrict alcohol advertising.

https://consult.gov.scot/alcohol-pol...2Yk98F9FksVA0c

Recommended by the WHO, and implemented by other European nations.

What's not to like?

***grunt*** · 18-11-2022 02:20 PM

An alcohol ad ban in Scottish sport could have 'grave' financial consequences for football and cost the country any chance of hosting future major events, the SFA and SPFL have warned.

***CropleyWasGod*** · 18-11-2022 02:38 PM

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An alcohol ad ban in Scottish sport could have 'grave' financial consequences for football and cost the country any chance of hosting future major events, the SFA and SPFL have warned.

Not sure I'd want to use the SFA and SPFL as my moral compass.