SNP are lying b******s as well !

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The white poppy is the symbol of the peace pledge union.

I’m not sure who you would expect to wear it, other than those who want wars to stop?

Agreed, not sure being a "stop the war pacifist" could be deemed anything other than a good thing. I'd be quite happy if people who wanted to stop wars hijacked things, but maybe that's just me.

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The white poppy is the symbol of the peace pledge union.

I’m not sure who you would expect to wear it, other than those who want wars to stop?

To be fair those who have fought in them and are wearing the red poppy are just as likely to want wars to stop.

‘War is sweet to those who have not experienced it.’ (Erasmus)

[Stairway 2 7]

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The white poppy is the symbol of the peace pledge union.

I’m not sure who you would expect to wear it, other than those who want wars to stop?

I mean the actual stop the war coalition. They have pushed it heavily. They want to stop unjust wars they say but pick and choose. They are too divisive, like not attacking assad in Syria.

While I disagree with the peace pledge Union at least they are consistent in opposing all wars.

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Pacifism is fine until an aggressor attacks you or someone else unjustly.

I also think the red poppy is for all victims of war, although its got beyond ridiculous and lost all original meaning

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Pacifism is fine until an aggressor attacks you or someone else unjustly.

I also think the red poppy is for all victims of war, although its got beyond ridiculous and lost all original meaning

How can the RBL be pro peace whilst sponsoring armed forces day? It makes no sense.

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How can the RBL be pro peace whilst sponsoring armed forces day? It makes no sense.

I didn't say they were pro peace?

[CropleyWasGod]

SNP to open up new route for people smuggling.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/scotland-now/new-ferry-route-between-scotland-28436043

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SNP to open up new route for people smuggling.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/scotland-now/new-ferry-route-between-scotland-28436043

Put it on the holiday thread. I like the idea but since read its 20 hours so 2 days of your holiday. Might be good for trucks not wanting the mess at the channel, hopefully kicks on

[Stairway 2 7]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...d-63572743.amp

Teachers in Scotland will stage a 24-hour walkout on 24 November after voting overwhelmingly to strike in a dispute over pay.

Members of the EIS union rejected a 5% pay offer, saying they wanted 10%.

EIS general secretary Andrea Bradley said they had become "increasingly angry over their treatment" by employers and the Scottish government.

Deputy First Minister John Swinney previously said there was no more money to fund public sector pay rises.

The move comes after Scotland's largest nursing union voted to go on strike for the first time ever in a dispute over pay.

The EIS said 96% of its members backed a teachers' strike on a 71% turnout

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SNP to open up new route for people smuggling.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/scotla...tland-28436043

We’ve had a ferry on that route before but the problem is it will probably be cheaper and quicker just to drive to England and travel from there.

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Oh here we ****ing go, it's started late this year but I guess it was inevitable. I used to wear my poppy in a show of respect for those who paid the ultimate price for my freedom, now I'm almost ashamed to wear it because it is now a source of conflict rather than a symbol of peace. The right have hijacked it and turned it into a competition to see who can virtue signal the loudest and use it as a weapon to beat political opponents with. Just **** off with your poppy wars.

[Moulin Yarns]

As someone who has worn a white poppy, they come with a bit of wire to put through a buttonhole and I have fixed in place with the safety pin.

Assuming Michelle Thomson doesn't have a buttonhole in her lapel then fixing the poppy with a pin badge seems sensible. Unfortunately opponents only see the badge and get all offended.

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Put it on the holiday thread. I like the idea but since read its 20 hours so 2 days of your holiday. Might be good for trucks not wanting the mess at the channel, hopefully kicks on

2 Days on a boat...Till ye reach yer destination.....Wi Fid n' Drink... Fae Edinburgh or theraboots...?
Where dae a sign up Sir!

Saor Alba

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There it is the Whataboutary…defend the SNP with look over there defence…speaking myself as a former NCO in the Army and a member of the Royal British Legion the poppy is apolitical and there for raising funds for veterans charities and to remember those who gave their lives in combat. I abhor the white poppy brigade, they have all year to sell their stuff but choose to use rememberance to sell their poppys, now any and I do mean any political party who use a poppy to promote their political point of view are ****.

How do you feel about the other veteran charities who use this time of year to concentrate their fund raising activities on the back of the poppy?

Personally I'm a bit saddened by it as I feel it's taking money that would have gone to the poppy appeal.

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SNP to open up new route for people smuggling.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/scotland-now/new-ferry-route-between-scotland-28436043

I've seen this in a few media outlets recently.

I'm not asking you personally but this was originally announced back in June! Why the fuss now?

[Keith_M]

I've got a red poppy on the door of my fridge.

I long considered myself a pacifist, but I bought this after living in Ypres for a while (work contract) and visiting the many museums that went into great detail on the death and suffering of the millions of young men sacrificed by their 'betters' in WW1 (the war to end all wars).

One of the museums I visited was particularly poignant as the building itself was used as a hospital during the war. There were photographs of those poor young guys alongside letters they sent to their parents. It was pretty moving stuff.


How anybody, like the Right-wingers and their Loyalist/Rangers counterparts, can politicize that disgusts me to a level that I couldn't possibly put into words.


Putting a political slogan... even one I agree with... on a poppy on Remembrance Day? Sorry, but that's just plain wrong.

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I've got a red poppy on the door of my fridge.

I long considered myself a pacifist, but I bought this after living in Ypres for a while (work contract) and visiting the many museums that went into great detail on the death and suffering of the millions of young men sacrificed by their 'betters' in WW1 (the war to end all wars).

One of the museums I visited was particularly poignant as the building itself was used as a hospital during the war. There were photographs of those poor young guys alongside letters they sent to their parents. It was pretty moving stuff.


How anybody, like the Right-wingers and their Loyalist/Rangers counterparts, can politicize that disgusts me to a level that I couldn't possibly put into words.


Putting a political slogan... even one I agree with... on a poppy on Remembrance Day? Sorry, but that's just plain wrong.

I couldn’t agree more. Another thing that is jarring with me is these enamelled pin badges with a poppy and a football club. Is there any real need for it. I think it sums up the need to seen doing it type of thing. I also recoiled at the poppy wreath produced with the Hibs badge in the middle. Same type of thing.
I myself do not wear one but give very generously to the poppy appeal. I pay my respects and remember. That’s enough for me .
Possibly the wrong thread for this

[He's here!]

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e...-end-n2stldn63

Yada yada Euan McColm, right wing commentator etc etc...but he makes some good points.

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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e...-end-n2stldn63

Yada yada Euan McColm, right wing commentator etc etc...but he makes some good points.

Could only see the first two paragraphs but every single word of those paragraphs was complete bollocks. Perhaps it improves later on.

[Hibbyradge]

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Could only see the first two paragraphs but every single word of those paragraphs was complete bollocks. Perhaps it improves later on.

It won't.

It's an opinion piece written from an anti Sturgeon position. There's no objectivity.

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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e...-end-n2stldn63

Yada yada Euan McColm, right wing commentator etc etc...but he makes some good points.

Behind a paywall. What are the good points the right wing commentator expresses?

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[Betty Boop]

Some clown has torched the War Memorial at the City Chambers. Nae need for that nonsense.

[Bristolhibby]

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I couldn’t agree more. Another thing that is jarring with me is these enamelled pin badges with a poppy and a football club. Is there any real need for it. I think it sums up the need to seen doing it type of thing. I also recoiled at the poppy wreath produced with the Hibs badge in the middle. Same type of thing.
I myself do not wear one but give very generously to the poppy appeal. I pay my respects and remember. That’s enough for me .
Possibly the wrong thread for this

TBF that wreath was laid by Hibernian FC on behalf of players and fans who have died in war.

Seems fitting that we as a club put our club crest in the wreath.

J

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TBF that wreath was laid by Hibernian FC on behalf of players and fans who have died in war.

Seems fitting that we as a club put our club crest in the wreath.

J

I see it that way as well... on the other hand, those wee metal badges etc are a different matter... they might be officially sanctioned by the Lady Haig guys and get money from them tho?

Ps still think it's a bit "off" ....

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Some clown has torched the War Memorial at the City Chambers. Nae need for that nonsense.

Set fire to the wreaths on the high Street and someone also destroyed the poppy display beside the Scott monument, brain dead

[CropleyWasGod]

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Some clown has torched the War Memorial at the City Chambers. Nae need for that nonsense.

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Set fire to the wreaths on the high Street and someone also destroyed the poppy display beside the Scott monument, brain dead

Was it SNP supporters that did it?

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Was it SNP supporters that did it?

F***ing morons whoever it was but yes this is for a new thread.

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Was it SNP supporters that did it?

Well there was a conversation about wreaths remembrance so I assume that's why bb brought it up. If no threads went in any tangents this forum would have about a quarter of the posts.

It's clearly nothing to do with the snp and just some nutter and I'm sure everyone clearly knows that

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Well there was a conversation about wreaths remembrance so I assume that's why bb brought it up. If no threads went in any tangents this forum would have about a quarter of the posts.

It's clearly nothing to do with the snp and just some nutter and I'm sure everyone clearly knows that

Cool.

I saw some Twatters suggesting/assuming it was, and thought I'd maybe missed something.

[CropleyWasGod]

Sturgeon's days are surely numbered now.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/n...cats-l775bx33n

Ps. That's a dog in the photo, not a cat.