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Thread: Brexit - What Now.
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03-11-2022 07:22 PM #6991
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03-11-2022 07:32 PM #6992This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Hard Leave - WTO terms.
Norway Model - leave the Single Markey but remain in the Customs Union.
Canada Deal - Leave the Single Market and Customs Union, but negotiate a
bilateral trade agreement.
Turkey Model - Leave the Single Market but negotiate a customs Union.
There were a number of ways we could have left, but our Government went for option 1.
Whereas given the tight outcome of the vote you’d have thought the natural way to leave would have been one of the other 3 options.
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03-11-2022 10:56 PM #6994This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
When in fact there were many softer BREXITS that wouldn’t have wiped out 4% of our GDP. Could do with that in this current climate.
The well seems poisoned. Labour have to keep quiet regarding alignment as the Touries would use it as a damaging attack line - Starmer is trying to steal your BREXIT. I totally believe that in two years time when Starmers Labour come to power there will be a quiet realignment to the EU, with eventually feelers put out to some sort of customs union.
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04-11-2022 08:59 AM #6995This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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04-11-2022 09:00 AM #6996
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04-11-2022 09:06 AM #6997
When the BOE governor refuses to mention the “B” word (as a known strongly supporting remainer” when faced with the longest recession looming and desperate growth predictions when we crawl out of recession…… you know the system is completed screwed.
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04-11-2022 09:16 AM #6998This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Mark Carney, he definitely isn't. A fair chunk of what Carney warned us against pre Brexit is what we are living with today......
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06-11-2022 08:41 AM #7000
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06-11-2022 08:43 AM #7001
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Not fascist in the slightest.
Home Office immigration enforcement officials are targeting places of worship to advise people with insecure status to return to their countries of origin.On three occasions, officials entered religious premises to take people direct to airports.
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07-11-2022 09:02 AM #7002
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Larry Elliot again arguing that brexit didn't harm the uk 😳
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...P=share_btn_tw
Whether that opportunity is seized or squandered is yet to be seen but the dire predictions didn’t happen
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07-11-2022 11:23 AM #7003
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Not fascist in the least:
The government has been accused of “gerrymandering” and “legalised voter suppression” by pushing ahead with mandatory voter ID for next year’s May local elections, amid renewed concerns that young people will be locked out of voting. At least six of the government-accepted IDs for voting are specifically targeted at older people, while almost none are aimed at younger people. New secondary legislation introduced by ministers to extend the Elections Act using Henry VIII powers – whereby Parliament is bypassed – include 310 references to the word “refusal” to grant a ballot paper.
@lloyd_rm told me: “I pushed very hard for ministers to accept other forms of ID,” Russell-Moyle said. But the decision was taken to exclude forms of ID “that are just as secure”. He added that “student ID cards or Railcards have been deemed not acceptable”
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07-11-2022 12:49 PM #7005
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07-11-2022 12:50 PM #7006
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I think the UK is probably the only country in Europe that doesn't have some form of voter ID.
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07-11-2022 01:04 PM #7007
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07-11-2022 01:12 PM #7009
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What identification will be acceptable?
There will be a wide range of photographic identification which will be acceptable.
These include:
Various concessionary travel passes
PASS cards
Ministry of Defence identity cards
Photocard parking permits issued as part of the Blue Badge scheme
Driver’s licenses
Passports
Free Voter Cards, provided by local authorities
Expired photographic identification will also be accepted if the photograph is of a good enough likeness to allow polling station staff to confirm the identity of the holder.
Legislation will also make clear that local authorities must provide a Voter Card free of charge where an elector does not have one of the approved forms of photo identification
What if I don’t have any of those documents?
Everyone eligible to vote will continue to be able to do so. New research published by the Government shows that 98% of electors already own a photographic document that is on the list of acceptable types of identification under this policy.
Local authorities will be required, by law, to provide a Voter Card free of charge where an elector does not have one of the approved forms of photo identification. A similar provision will be established for anonymous electors who will be able to apply for a free anonymous elector Voter Card should they wish to vote in person.
So, if they really wanted to do what you are suggesting they would not be doing the above would they.
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07-11-2022 01:46 PM #7011
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07-11-2022 02:04 PM #7012
Do people think that there isn't any voter id already?
Next time you receive an electoral vote check it, you will find a number which corresponds with the electoral roll.
It might not be the same as having to show photo id but it links your address to the voting paper.There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.
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07-11-2022 02:07 PM #7013
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I replied with the facts that things like a bus pass will be acceptable and it will become law that local councils will have to supply voter ID cards free of charge, and not forgetting 98% of people already have the required ID.
All things you think they would NOT be doing if it was all about stopping non Tory voters voting.
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07-11-2022 02:22 PM #7014
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Look at the list of acceptable forms of ID - how many of them will be available to voters aged 18-24?
The very fact that someone has to go to the trouble of contacting the Council to obtain a voter card will ITSELF prove to be a barrier to voting to youngsters who already vote less than older folk because of their disenchantment with politicians and politics. Also - have you tried to contact the Council recently???Last edited by grunt; 07-11-2022 at 02:26 PM. Reason: Too much.
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07-11-2022 02:31 PM #7015
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https://www.gov.uk/government/public...-great-britain
There is the link to the research, why do you think it's made up or fabricated? Which parts exactly aren't true?
If you were concerned about younger people then again the facts are not your friend.
"Younger people were more likely than the general population to hold a form of photo ID. Ninety-nine
per cent of those aged 18-29 held a form of photo ID, slightly higher than either those aged 30-69
(98%) or 70+ (98%). Additionally, those aged 85+ were less likely to hold photo ID that was
recognisable. Nine in ten (91%) did so, compared to well over nine in ten (95-98%) of younger age
groups."
Seems to work just fine in all other European countries. Maybe it's you that needs to stop your unconditional belief that everything and everyone is somehow out to get you or some other group.Last edited by James310; 07-11-2022 at 02:33 PM.
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07-11-2022 02:38 PM #7016
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We don't need it.
It will deter people from voting.
It will disproportionately favour the Tories.
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07-11-2022 02:47 PM #7017
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People need ID to pick up a parcel, having ID to vote when so many already have it isn't that big a deal. I thought something that aligns us with the rest of Europe would be welcomed not rejected.
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Does it work in Northern Ireland where you need it?
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07-11-2022 03:19 PM #7019This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
There is zero reason at all for this to be implemented
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07-11-2022 03:35 PM #7020
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I wonder if people in France think it's some plot to stop people voting as well or they just get on with it and accept it's fairly normal around the world.
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