SNP are lying b******s as well !

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Maybe, isn't Kenny MacAskill your MP? So you would have voted for him, did he become an extremist/fruitcake overnight when he joined Alba or was he maybe always like that?

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Where did I call Kenny MacAskill an extremist fruitcake? Even if I did it's hardly crime of the century, imagine calling a MP a bad name. Have you been so vocal about all the other MPs being called much worse?

Someone mentioned Alba was full of extremists and I was asking, as he was the one in the video, if he had only turned into an extremist the day he joined Alba or if he had maybe always been like that.

And for your comments about getting my bone (whatever that means) and lies on a side of a bus I voted Remain. I don't think it's a great idea to put up trade barriers with your biggest trading partners, something though you support with Independence. Maybe for different reasons, but the end result will still be barriers with our biggest trading partners.

What does getting back to my bone mean anyway? Genuinely no idea.

You're like a dog with a bone and refuse to give it up, a lot like your posts on this and the other SNP thread where your dislike for the SNP and their Government is very much apparent. As for voting remain, you don't sound like it re your posting history on these SNP threads. Getting a bit bored now, so no more replies from me.

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You're like a dog with a bone and refuse to give it up, a lot like your posts on this and the other SNP thread where your dislike for the SNP and their Government is very much apparent. As for voting remain, you don't sound like it re your posting history on these SNP threads. Getting a bit bored now, so no more replies from me.

Bye.

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In my opinion, Kenny MacAskill is the odd man out in Alba. He’s a good lad, and competent, possibly the only one the SNP lost to Alba who might be considered to be any kind of loss to them.

I'd agree he was probably their only significant loss. Got the impression he simply prefers working under Salmond to Sturgeon.

For all that Salmond is yesterday's man he did a lot more during his time as leader to forward the independence/SNP cause than Sturgeon. He drove support to levels she has failed to improve on after a similar amount of time in office and despite being up against a series of the most woeful Westminster governments (and arguably the most uninspiring Labour opposition leaders) of all time. Salmond had Blair, Brown and Cameron to contend with, all of whom were very capable political leaders yet he took the SNP to previously unimaginable heights during that era.

I still think he's a pompous sleazebag but there's no denying he was the one who made the SNP a genuine political force.

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Very first quote on the poll by Ross Colquhoun ( SNP strategist ) is that only 48% of Scottish people more likely to trust Scottish Gov.

By my calculations that means a majority more likely to distrust them.

that's a rather selective interpretation of Colquhoun's tweet, here it is in full:

"People in Scotland were more likely to trust the Scottish Government (48%) and their local council (31%) to make fair decisions than the UK Government (15%)."

And here's what the tweet refers to

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[Ozyhibby]

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I'd agree he was probably their only significant loss. Got the impression he simply prefers working under Salmond to Sturgeon.

For all that Salmond is yesterday's man he did a lot more during his time as leader to forward the independence/SNP cause than Sturgeon. He drove support to levels she has failed to improve on after a similar amount of time in office and despite being up against a series of the most woeful Westminster governments (and arguably the most uninspiring Labour opposition leaders) of all time. Salmond had Blair, Brown and Cameron to contend with, all of whom were very capable political leaders yet he took the SNP to previously unimaginable heights during that era.

I still think he's a pompous sleazebag but there's no denying he was the one who made the SNP a genuine political force.

Salmond never got support for Indy as high as NS has had it.


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that's a rather selective interpretation of Colquhoun's tweet, here it is in full:

"People in Scotland were more likely to trust the Scottish Government (48%) and their local council (31%) to make fair decisions than the UK Government (15%)."

And here's what the tweet refers to

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I'd go as far as to say it's a completely incorrect interpretation of the tweet!

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to your footnote…I suggested the Alba Party were full of parasites and fruitcakes ….. not all but a majority imho

Yeah, I'd have to agree with that.

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that's a rather selective interpretation of Colquhoun's tweet, here it is in full:

"People in Scotland were more likely to trust the Scottish Government (48%) and their local council (31%) to make fair decisions than the UK Government (15%)."

And here's what the tweet refers to

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[Stairway 2 7]

High praise from Jackie Baillie for humza

https://mobile.twitter.com/markthehi...52829483028481

He was certainly awful during covid. Remember at one point he said 10 children had be hospitalised in Scotland that week, but was making it up. Still in the job mind
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...s-57356534.amp

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For all that Salmond is yesterday's man he did a lot more during his time as leader to forward the independence/SNP cause than Sturgeon.

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/conor_matchett/s...OPJ4NmUCK_Pt1w

Huge cuts being made in Scottish budget.


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https://twitter.com/conor_matchett/s...OPJ4NmUCK_Pt1w

Huge cuts being made in Scottish budget.


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Why didn't we raise tax to cover this. We knew last year inflation would be through the roof this year. Austerity easier I suppose

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Do you think the SNP would be the political force they are today without Salmond? Not a chance.

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Why didn't we raise tax to cover this. We knew last year inflation would be through the roof this year. Austerity easier I suppose

We only have control over income tax on earned income. Do you think that that should be the only tax used to fix this? How much would it have to go up to cover the shortfall?
Without full control of our finances, we are at the mercy of the Tories.


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We only have control over income tax on earned income. Do you think that that should be the only tax used to fix this? How much would it have to go up to cover the shortfall?
Without full control of our finances, we are at the mercy of the Tories.


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Yes it should come through income tax. Denmarks highest tax band is 10% higher than ours, that's progressive and no the high earners don't leave. This blaming England for literally everything is old hat.

Yes they are a horrible bunch of bs and brexit will equally effect us. But most nations in Europe are facing almost % inflation, you need to fund by either cuts or taxes so pick.

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Yes it should come through income tax. Denmarks highest tax band is 10% higher than ours, that's progressive and no the high earners don't leave. This blaming England for literally everything is old hat.

Yes they are a horrible bunch of bs and brexit will equally effect us. But most nations in Europe are facing almost % inflation, you need to fund by either cuts or taxes so pick.

The UK Government does not = England.

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Yes it should come through income tax. Denmarks highest tax band is 10% higher than ours, that's progressive and no the high earners don't leave. This blaming England for literally everything is old hat.

Yes they are a horrible bunch of bs and brexit will equally effect us. But most nations in Europe are facing almost % inflation, you need to fund by either cuts or taxes so pick.

Most countries raise their tax from various sources according to their need. That seems normal. We only have one option open to us. That’s not normal.
I agree we should increase the top rate of tax but I doubt it will be enough to fill the gap in the finances.


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Most countries raise their tax from various sources according to their need. That seems normal. We only have one option open to us. That’s not normal.
I agree we should increase the top rate of tax but I doubt it will be enough to fill the gap in the finances.


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There's a difference between not filling the gap and filling zero of the gap as you chose austerity. How much spending on services could have been saved by taxing those who could afford it

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The UK Government does not = England.

Government of equal nations? But yes should have said Westminster

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Do you think the SNP would be the political force they are today without Salmond? Not a chance.

That's not what you said.

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That's not what you said.

Salmond is a colossus of Scottish nationalism. I can't stand the guy but he was an extraordinary political operator in his heyday. He would have been an outside contender for PM had he represented a UK-wide party. Sturgeon ploughs a narrow furrow in comparison and has been largely unable to progress the SNP cause against a series of Prime Ministers Salmond would have demolished.

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Salmond is a colossus of Scottish nationalism. I can't stand the guy but he was an extraordinary political operator in his heyday. He would have been an outside contender for PM had he represented a UK-wide party. Sturgeon ploughs a narrow furrow in comparison and has been largely unable to progress the SNP cause against a series of Prime Ministers Salmond would have demolished.

In your opinion. Which I happen to completely disagree with.

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Salmond is a colossus of Scottish nationalism. I can't stand the guy but he was an extraordinary political operator in his heyday. He would have been an outside contender for PM had he represented a UK-wide party. Sturgeon ploughs a narrow furrow in comparison and has been largely unable to progress the SNP cause against a series of Prime Ministers Salmond would have demolished.

I don't think I'd disagree at all.

There's no end of things to dislike about Salmond but he was a very shrewd operator in his day. Sturgeon has her strengths but there's a bit of me thinks that he has a bit more of the opportunist about him that would have capitalised on the Tories having been as dreadful as they have in recent years.

The specifics and details of which I wouldn't like to comment on - just an intangible, bigger picture thing that I have a hunch about.

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I don't think I'd disagree at all.

There's no end of things to dislike about Salmond but he was a very shrewd operator in his day. Sturgeon has her strengths but there's a bit of me thinks that he has a bit more of the opportunist about him that would have capitalised on the Tories having been as dreadful as they have in recent years.

The specifics and details of which I wouldn't like to comment on - just an intangible, bigger picture thing that I have a hunch about.

Agree with much of that.

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There's no end of things to dislike about Salmond but he was a very shrewd operator in his day. Sturgeon has her strengths but there's a bit of me thinks that he has a bit more of the opportunist about him that would have capitalised on the Tories having been as dreadful as they have in recent years.

You point this out but then appear to disregard it. For me it's the difference between a Johnson-like bully forcing independence by strength of will and opportunism, or Sturgeon's hearts & minds approach of wanting to take people along with her.

I know which I prefer. We will need to see if she can do it.

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I get that Sturgeon doesn't want to show weakness while being hauled over the coals by opposition MSPs, but I'd have a thought a simple apology over this shambles shouldn't be beyond her:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-s...ost_type=share

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I get that Sturgeon doesn't want to show weakness while being hauled over the coals by opposition MSPs, but I'd have a thought a simple apology over this shambles shouldn't be beyond her:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-s...ost_type=share

Perhaps she shouldn't have listened to the unionist parties.

https://twitter.com/msm_monitor/stat...VjChnN0mA&s=19

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I get that Sturgeon doesn't want to show weakness while being hauled over the coals by opposition MSPs, but I'd have a thought a simple apology over this shambles shouldn't be beyond her

Where's your sense of perspective?

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Where's your sense of perspective?

Not sure what you mean?

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How can Sturgeon 'utterly refute' the jobs for the boys accusation but then confirm the auditor general is investigating claims of preferential treatment for Ferguson?
What if he finds the claims stack up?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...rries-contract